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Colors

United States Coast Guard#Colors correctly states the Pantone colors for CG Red (179C) and CG Blue (307C) and cites the official doc with that info, but the RGB values given here and in our other color articles and those given and shown in sources are widely variable, and could use some clarification. Colors shown for PDF sources are those rendered by Adobe Reader X on Win7 in 32-bit color mode. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlanM1 (talk • contribs) 07:48, 22 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

CG Red – Pantone 179C
Hex RGB H° S% V% C% M% Y% K% Source
#DC3832 2 77 86 0 75 77 14 USCG, COMDTINST M5200.14A (April 2011), Ch. 2(A)(5) at p. 14 ("2-2")
#E23D28 7 82 89 0 73 82 11
#E03C31 7 82 89 0 73 82 11
#DE3831 2 78 87 0 75 78 13 Pantone site
#F15C23 17 85 95 0 62 85 5 Alt source 1 of Pantone swatches
#E23828 5 82 89 0 75 82 11 Alt source 2 of Pantone swatches
CG Blue – Pantone 307C
Hex RGB H° S% V% C% M% Y% K% Source
#0078AD 198 100 68 100 31 0 32 USCG, COMDTINST M5200.14A (April 2011), Ch. 2(A)(5) at p. 14 ("2-2")
#007AA5 196 100 65 100 26 0 35
#0075B0 200 100 69 100 34 0 31 Pantone site
#0078AE 199 100 68 100 31 0 32 Alt source 1 of Pantone swatches
#0070B2 202 100 70 100 37 0 30 Alt source 2 of Pantone swatches

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Oldest?

I dispute the idea(in note1) that the CG is older than the US Navy. The material in the article provides all the reasons to reject that idea. The modern CG as we know it was created in 1915 by merging two different services. One service had a very different misison then that of the CG today. You cant really trace the history prior to it. But lets suppose you can and you want to say that the CG traces itself to 1790 with the Revenue Collection then you have to allow the US Navy to trace its history to the Continental Navy. The fact is the CG was created in 1915 not 1790. The Navy is mentioned in the Constitution not the CG or even its predecessor services. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:2c7:97f:c2d7:4565:a39d:e088:a634 (talk) 19:05, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Use of language in second paragraph seems to be more in the style of an advertisement than that of an encyclopedia

The second paragraph of this article reads more like promotional material than a useful description of the united states coast guard. It's hard to describe what exactly is wrong with the style of the paragraph directly. While the information appears at a glance to be accurate, it seems that all of the content is paraphrased directly from the united states coast guard. The only citation in the paragraph links to a document made by the Coast Guard. The paragraph appears to use buzzwords (such as cyberspace) in a way that conveys little information. It seems disingenuous to portray information sourced exclusively from the organization itself as the complete truth rather than contextualized as being from the organization. Stumpy3521 (talk) 14:51, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Phrasing probably should be changed then, but I agree, it is likely because whoever wrote it might have taken it directly from the Coast Guard's website Sunnyediting99 (talk) 16:22, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It can probably be rewritten, but cyberspace isn't a buzzword.Garuda28 (talk) 19:32, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I added some edits, if you think this is good (or bad) let me know. Sunnyediting99 (talk) 20:03, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I can provide a citation for The Menu, I actually initially was planning on using it but because none of the popular culture movies had citations I decided to stick with uniformity rather than make it awkwardly stand out as I have little information on the others. That said, I can provide the source for the Menu. Also, the Menu arguably has more of a popular culture impact than many of the movies listed on here, given that the Menu has a stronger box office ratings and reviews than a sizable number of the films listed here. Sunnyediting99 (talk) 05:09, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@BilCat please let me know your thoughts, though I do appreciate that you think citations should be universally added for popular culture. Sunnyediting99 (talk) 05:14, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Pop culture sections are not a list of every film, TV, book, or game appearance of the subject, but of appearances that have been noted in reliable published sources to have significance to the subject. For military services, films or TV shows with significant support from the services can also be listed. Please read WP:MILPOP and WP:IPC carefully, and make sure your sources comply with those guidelines.
I will say that I don't believe The Menu (2022 film) will meet the guidelines, as the connection to the US Coast Guard is very weak at best. BilCat (talk) 08:19, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That's fair, I won't add the Menu then as it was a plot point (for the USCG) albeit not the most important one. I'll take a look at those two then and see if any relevant sources can be added. Sunnyediting99 (talk) 16:15, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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