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Semi-protected edit request on 10 October 2022

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change: Appearance silvery gray metallic Change to: Appearance shiny gray metallic VeryBigBean (talk) 08:44, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure. Here at zinc the same edit was made. But IMO a "Silver (color)" is not exactly silver itself, and a good & acceptable way to describe the color/shine. DePiep (talk) 09:46, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As well as I know it, aluminium is rare in its ability to look silvery as a fine powder. That is, you can make a paint out of it that looks silvery. Others look dark gray or black as a fine powder. More often, we see sheets or foils, but which one should apply here? Gah4 (talk) 16:36, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Procedurally marking edit request as answered as there is (albeit now stale) a discussion amonst multiple editors regarding the proposed change. —Sirdog (talk) 09:40, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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change pronunciation of US/CA spelling from /əˈljuːmɪnəm/ ə-LEW-min-əm to /əˈluːmɪnəm/ ə-LOO-min-əm Ocelots33 (talk) 01:56, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. @Ocelots33: What's your source for it being such a fronted l sound? —C.Fred (talk) 02:03, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/aluminum lists it without the /j/ sound, and the wikipedia audio sample says it without the /j/ sound. The OED lists the /j/ as optional in British English (which typically uses aluminium anyway) and does not list /j/ at all in American English https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/5898 Ocelots33 (talk) 20:02, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done Part of the problem is my native dialect is a yod-dropping dialect, so in trying to distinguish lj and l, I wasn't hearing the yod sound in lute and was missing the difference. Looks like it's been done at the infobox. —C.Fred (talk) 21:20, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

British fanfic spelling

Why does the page list the British fanfic spelling as the primary spelling? The official recognized spelling is aluminum and should be recognized as such. 73.237.36.27 (talk) 17:34, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See FAQ here --McSly (talk) 17:56, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Umm, because the internationally recognised spelling is 'aluminium' and only Canada and the US spell it 'aluminum'. TrevorLenab (talk) 13:50, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Aluminium → Aluminum – "Aluminum" is the more common name, as shown with this ngram. Thoughts? Wikiexplorationandhelping (talk) 19:22, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – While "aluminum" is definitely more common, the reason why it's located at "aluminium" is because of the IUPAC. Like, there's three elements with two region-centric names/spellings: "Alumin(i)um", "Sul[f/ph]ur", and "C(a)esium". The IUPAC established the standard that the British spelling should be used for "Aluminium" (and "Caesium") while the American spelling should be used for "Sulfur". Also, see MOS:SPELLING. Paintspot Infez (talk) 21:13, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Don't move This is a english-american spelling difference. Whichever whichever dialect has more prominence is always going to win the "more common" criterion. If that was sufficient argument for a move on its own the entire wiki would use American spelling sooner or later. I don't believe that's what policy prescribes. --Licks-rocks (talk) 21:19, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per MOS:ENGVAR / MOS:RETAIN / Licks-rocks. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 22:14, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]