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BladeObliv is the strongest DarkEden player

Source needed :) --ScarletSpiderDave 09:18, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Made some changes

I did a sort of a rewrite and made some formatting changes. Use the history to see what I changed.

One thing to note is the name of the game. I changed the name in the text from "Darkeden" to "DarkEden". The official site refers to it as "DarkEden", the files use "DarkEden". The in-game help uses DarkEden as well as "Dark Eden". The game is poorly translated, with many spelling errors, but I think "DarkEden" is the most common and official.

I would like to see this article become more of an article and less of an instruction manual. I may work on it some more. --ScarletSpiderDave 09:18, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've added some screenshots from DE International and changed the order of external links by importance. If you dont mind. WeditorW 02:08, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rewrite needed

Added the weasel tag for the large amounts of "supposedly" (supposed by whom?), "this is/is not recommended" (by whom?), and "it is said" (who says it?). Remember to avoid the Passive voice.

I've also removed the link to "http://darkeden.mmorpgs.info/", as not only does it have little reference to DarkEden, but a community of such few members does not belong linked in a Wikipedia article.

Also, most of the information on 'builds' should be removed; remember that Wikipedia is not a game guide. I haven't done this as it would shrink the article down to stub size, but I urge anyone with knowledge of this game to give this article a major rewrite. ShakingSpirit 14:22, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A move prehaps

I think we should change the page name from "darkeden" to "darkeden international" because most of the information is about the International version and not the other versions, which could mislead people D33ath 08:52, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

LeetNetwork as an external link

WP:EL- Advertising and Conflicts of interest.

If the link is to a relevant and informative site that should otherwise be included, please consider mentioning it on the talk page and let neutral and independent Wikipedia editors decide whether to add it.

It may be deemed as not 'informative enough' because users may have trouble navigating through the site. As such, linking directly to the DarkEden part of the forum may help.

I will leave it from here to the rest of the editors if they feel any changes should be made. Mysterial 17:36, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't like it. It's a fanforum, so unless it's special in some way, WP:EL forbids it. Veinor (ヴエノル^(talk)) 17:32, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It shouldnt be there because its not within the guidelines D33ath 19:22, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I fail to see how this is in any way a conflict of interest - it's not a "relevant and informative site", none of us have any experience with the site in question, it fails the criteria at WP:EL, and the consensus is against adding it. When this debate first came up I backed down because I didn't want to start a dispute, but now it's obvious that others agree that the link is not notable, and should not be linked in this article. Mysterial, you're getting dangerously close to violating 3RR - you should discuss a change you don't agree with on the article's talk page, not simply revert it over and over. Thanks. ShakingSpirit^talk 19:37, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

EDIT: Leetnetworks has now been blacklisted with the anti-spam bots; any attempt to add it to an article will be auto-reverted. ShakingSpirit^talk 19:49, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm the site owner, clearly I'm in favor of it remaining in the links section, however I'm not the one that put it there. There is MUCH information all over the forum and it's quite easy to navigate with the use of the navigation panel on the left linking directly to Dark Eden information, such as skill builds, training guides, etc. It's not a fan site so much as a forum filled with information about the game. --GenDeathRaiser 21:33, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The very first criteria WP:EL puts forth for links to be avoided is "Any site that does not provide a unique resource beyond what the article would contain if it became a Featured article."

Skill builds, training guides, etc are not notable on wikipedia because Wikipedia is not a game guide - therefore the link is non-notable itself. Not to mention, as has already been stated time and time again, forums should not be linked. Period. ShakingSpirit^talk 22:17, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kthx, well like I said I didn't initially put it up there, as a matter of fact I've never done anything with it, so the comment on your talk page about me doing it to get free traffic is false. Win. --GenDeathRaiser 05:14, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think D33ath was referring to you when he said "his forum" in any case ^_^ ShakingSpirit^talk 07:26, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I just assumed since it was under Leetnetworks on your talk page, oh well either way, thanks for the proper closure on this subject.--GenDeathRaiser 10:20, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Info about other versions

The article is lacking features from other versions. This is a general DarkEden article, not a solely dedicated DarkEden International.

Even so, it has too much emphasis on other areas rather than the gameplay,(ie History of hacks). Mysterial 06:18, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]