User talk:FormalDude
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Contentious topic notice
Why have you taken it upon yourself to indiscriminately post this contentious topic notice on my talk page, and on the talk pages of several other editors who've recently edited 2023 Covenant School shooting? Do you honestly think you're accomplishing anything by doing that? How about you only post it if you encounter an editor whose edits to a contentious article have been problematic? Rowing007 (talk) 18:29, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Rowing007: Anyone editing the page should be informed of the contentious topic(s) that apply, so I've taken to notifying users who are editing the page multiple times and have not been notified. The notice specifically states that it does not imply there is anything problematic with your edits. As for what it accomplishes, see WP:Contentious topics § Awareness of contentious topics. ––FormalDude (talk) 18:47, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- I know what the message explicitly states. Nevertheless, the page is already EC-only. That alone should signal that anyone editing it is experienced enough to understand a) that it is contentious, and b) how to deal with contentious topics. Therefore, your self-appointed task of posting the notices is pretty unwarranted and only serves as an irritant. Rowing007 (talk) 19:10, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Rowing007: Unfortunately EC protection does not mean everyone editing the page is experienced or that they are aware about contentious topics. Sorry you feel this standard notification that is required for someone to be formally WP:AWARE of contentious topics is an irritant, but it is fully warranted. If you do not wish to receive CT notifications, I recommend using the {{Ctopics/aware}} template in order to note which contentious topics you know. ––FormalDude (talk) 19:15, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- It's truly not warranted, and your little crusade has not accomplished anything, as it is purely a redunancy, considering the massive warnings already in place on the article when one tries to edit it. Reserve the notice for those who've demonstrated they would benefit from it. Thanks. Rowing007 (talk) 19:20, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Rowing007: "
When an editor first begins making edits within any contentious topic, anyone may alert the editor of the contentious topic designation using the {{Contentious topics/alert/first}} template.
" It's not a crusade and I am but one of many editors who place contentious topic notices. ––FormalDude (talk) 19:22, 30 March 2023 (UTC)- You like that procedure, eh? Just because you can ("may") doesn't mean you should. Refer to above comments. It's lazy editing and self-entitlement to indiscriminately post it. Rowing007 (talk) 19:31, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not sure why you're giving me grief when you yourself have placed notices. Two other editors have also given you notices and I don't see you ranting on their talk pages. ––FormalDude (talk) 19:26, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not "giving you grief". I'm expressing my disdain with your behaviour. Also, nice attempt at trying to dig up dirt, but you're falling short, because you haven't even properly ascertained the context of that particular case, nor have you summarized it appropriately here, as I did respond to the editors in kind. It would be sound practice for you to not post the notice without investigating the edits first. Rowing007 (talk) 19:31, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- You've never edited Bon courage's talk page and you "responded" to Woodroar by giving them a CT notice. Am I missing something? ––FormalDude (talk) 19:35, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, you are! However, this isn't the place for explaining that, and it's entirely irrelevant to this discussion, not to mention the fact you were not at all involved, so I'm not sure why you think it's a good idea to bring it up. Moral of the story: it would be sound practice for you to not post the notice without investigating the edits first. Rowing007 (talk) 21:10, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Rowing007: The only investigation required is confirming that you've edited a contentious topic area and are formally unaware. If you want to be left alone, stop editing my talk page. ––FormalDude (talk) 21:19, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- The time to have left me alone was went you took it upon yourself to harass me with the contentious topic warning. It's fallacious to claim that the only investigation required is confirming that someone has edited a contentious topic area and is formally unaware; examining their edits for disruption prevents this exact kind of frustration. Rowing007 (talk) 21:24, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Rowing007: Nobody has ever been this frustrated with me in the hundreds of contentious topics notices I've placed. What would prevent this is you choosing not to be upset by standard, ubiquitous wiki notices. Obviously I can't control your emotions. ––FormalDude (talk) 21:34, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Ascribing emotions where there are none is sophistry; I referred to frustration in the sense of "the act of frustrating", where frustrate means "to hinder or thwart", because you have hindered my experience by choosing to post the notice to my talk page. The way in which others have or have not reacted to your actions is none of my concern; please stop constructing straw man arguments. Rowing007 (talk) 21:45, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Oh yes, it's very clear you are keeping emotions out of this.[sarcasm] ––FormalDude (talk) 21:48, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Pure sophistry; completely unproductive. Rowing007 (talk) 21:52, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Oh yes, it's very clear you are keeping emotions out of this.[sarcasm] ––FormalDude (talk) 21:48, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Ascribing emotions where there are none is sophistry; I referred to frustration in the sense of "the act of frustrating", where frustrate means "to hinder or thwart", because you have hindered my experience by choosing to post the notice to my talk page. The way in which others have or have not reacted to your actions is none of my concern; please stop constructing straw man arguments. Rowing007 (talk) 21:45, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Rowing007: Nobody has ever been this frustrated with me in the hundreds of contentious topics notices I've placed. What would prevent this is you choosing not to be upset by standard, ubiquitous wiki notices. Obviously I can't control your emotions. ––FormalDude (talk) 21:34, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- The time to have left me alone was went you took it upon yourself to harass me with the contentious topic warning. It's fallacious to claim that the only investigation required is confirming that someone has edited a contentious topic area and is formally unaware; examining their edits for disruption prevents this exact kind of frustration. Rowing007 (talk) 21:24, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Rowing007: The only investigation required is confirming that you've edited a contentious topic area and are formally unaware. If you want to be left alone, stop editing my talk page. ––FormalDude (talk) 21:19, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, you are! However, this isn't the place for explaining that, and it's entirely irrelevant to this discussion, not to mention the fact you were not at all involved, so I'm not sure why you think it's a good idea to bring it up. Moral of the story: it would be sound practice for you to not post the notice without investigating the edits first. Rowing007 (talk) 21:10, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- You've never edited Bon courage's talk page and you "responded" to Woodroar by giving them a CT notice. Am I missing something? ––FormalDude (talk) 19:35, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not "giving you grief". I'm expressing my disdain with your behaviour. Also, nice attempt at trying to dig up dirt, but you're falling short, because you haven't even properly ascertained the context of that particular case, nor have you summarized it appropriately here, as I did respond to the editors in kind. It would be sound practice for you to not post the notice without investigating the edits first. Rowing007 (talk) 19:31, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Rowing007: "
- It's truly not warranted, and your little crusade has not accomplished anything, as it is purely a redunancy, considering the massive warnings already in place on the article when one tries to edit it. Reserve the notice for those who've demonstrated they would benefit from it. Thanks. Rowing007 (talk) 19:20, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Rowing007: Unfortunately EC protection does not mean everyone editing the page is experienced or that they are aware about contentious topics. Sorry you feel this standard notification that is required for someone to be formally WP:AWARE of contentious topics is an irritant, but it is fully warranted. If you do not wish to receive CT notifications, I recommend using the {{Ctopics/aware}} template in order to note which contentious topics you know. ––FormalDude (talk) 19:15, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- I know what the message explicitly states. Nevertheless, the page is already EC-only. That alone should signal that anyone editing it is experienced enough to understand a) that it is contentious, and b) how to deal with contentious topics. Therefore, your self-appointed task of posting the notices is pretty unwarranted and only serves as an irritant. Rowing007 (talk) 19:10, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
A bowl of meat for you!
Your Cool Picture Generator assisted me in the creation of my first template, so, indirectly, you were instrumental in said creation! Thanks!
Cessaune [talk] 01:47, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Cessaune: Glad I could be of some (indirect) help! Your poem template looks great. I'm curious if you are referring to that kitten as meat? ––FormalDude (talk) 01:59, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
- Yes. Because it is. Cessaune [talk] 02:00, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
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Are you a bot --MeVeryCool (talk) 19:54, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- @MeVeryCool: Nope, I'm a human being. ––FormalDude (talk) 03:15, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
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Hello FormalDude. I edited an article today and it now seems to be deleted. Can you please help? Thanks --Ver1tey (talk) 00:51, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
Hello FormalDude. I should have given more specifics in my previous question. The article that I was editing was “Nick Savides”. The last edit that I made, adding an image from Commons, was the morning of April 7, then I saw the article was missing by later that day (today). I looked on the deletion log and did not find it there. I would appreciate it if the article could be restored to before the previous edit. --Ver1tey (talk) 01:57, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Ver1tey Forgive me butting in, but have you looked at Draft:Nick Savides? —C.Fred (talk) 01:58, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for noting that. I do see the draft. It has the all edits that I made in the last few days, but I made those on the live article. I’m confused that the live article is not viewable. I apologize that I am new to editing. Ver1tey (talk) 02:14, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Ver1tey: Looks like the article was moved to draftspace with this edit by MarioGom. I would reach out to them if you have more questions about it. ––FormalDude (talk) 03:14, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you Ver1tey (talk) 17:14, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Ver1tey: Looks like the article was moved to draftspace with this edit by MarioGom. I would reach out to them if you have more questions about it. ––FormalDude (talk) 03:14, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for noting that. I do see the draft. It has the all edits that I made in the last few days, but I made those on the live article. I’m confused that the live article is not viewable. I apologize that I am new to editing. Ver1tey (talk) 02:14, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
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Hello. I have noticed that there is an error in a page in which I appear. They show me as another person who is not me. How do I correct this oversight? --Beardy M (talk) 19:43, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, Beardy M. What do you mean "
They show me as another person who is not me
"? Does an article use an incorrect picture? Or is it talking about someone else with your name? And which article is it specifically? ––FormalDude (talk) 19:48, 17 April 2023 (UTC)- In 1968 I had a part in a movie called IF starring Malcolm Mcdowell and in 1969 in Goodbye Mr Chips starring Peter O'Toole. My name appeares correctly IE Ray Mitchell but when hovered over shows me to be a politician from Canada who I believe is now deceased. How do I change this to showin,g the correct information about me. Thanks in advance. Beardy M (talk) 19:56, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Beardy M: I've just fixed it. In the future you can report an error in an article on its respective talk page. ––FormalDude (talk) 20:16, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks Formal Dude for fixing the IF movie page but I see thazt the Goodbye Mr Chips page still remains with the politicians history. Perhaps you could help me on this one too! Thanks in advance. Ray Mitchell Beardy M (talk) 21:50, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Beardy M: I've just fixed it. In the future you can report an error in an article on its respective talk page. ––FormalDude (talk) 20:16, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- In 1968 I had a part in a movie called IF starring Malcolm Mcdowell and in 1969 in Goodbye Mr Chips starring Peter O'Toole. My name appeares correctly IE Ray Mitchell but when hovered over shows me to be a politician from Canada who I believe is now deceased. How do I change this to showin,g the correct information about me. Thanks in advance. Beardy M (talk) 19:56, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
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