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Barnstar

The Pakistan Barnstar of National Merit
Awarded to you for your edits to Pakistan-related topics. Your contributions are both informative and helpful. Keep up the good work! Mar4d (talk) 17:56, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

THANKS Mar4d. Coming from you I do appreciate this. I myself consider you a contributor of high value on Pakistan-related topics and an asset on Wikipedia. Ngrewal1 (talk) 18:59, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Technical move is not possible

You suggested a move between Anjuman-i-Himayat-i-Islam and Anjuman-e-Himayat-e-Islam but both of the articles have significant history and content. Hence, I've instead put in a merge tag on the page and would request you to start a discussion the talk page of the concerned article. --QEDK (愛 • 海) 19:03, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Citation Barnstar
I personally respect you for your civil behavior on WP. I also want to thank for your contributions to WP. I appreciate your passion and energy to contribute to the articles of South Asia. Thanks again, I hope you will keep improving South Asian articles which are in bad shape and need editors like you. Störm (talk) 16:42, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thank you for the barnstar :)

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The Barnstar of Diligence

The Barnstar of Diligence
To Ngrewal1, for all your contribution in wikipedia. Your attention to details and time you may have to spend, is priceless. Spasage (talk) 17:09, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Spasage Thank you so much and Best Wishes from me also. Ngrewal1 (talk) 17:46, 7 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Invitation to WikiProject Pakistan

Welcome!

Hi, and welcome to Wikipedia. I'm from WikiProject Pakistan. We're a group of editors working to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Pakistan.

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Citations

Hi, I’ve recently noticed your edits and wish to thank you for improving citations within each article. This is greatly appreciated, and improves the quality of Pakistan-related articles. I typically included an inline citation for every claim and place it at the end of each sentence - I’ve found that citations only included at the end of the paragraph eventually result in the loss of inline citations as some user might carelessly delete the very last sentence which has the citation at its end. But anyway, keep up the good work and thanks for your contributions! Willard84 (talk)|

@Willard84 I highly value your comments since you yourself are a scholarly person. Truthfully, I am always happy to see your priceless contributions on Wikipedia. And I do run into them everywhere, when I edit Pakistan-related articles. Thanks for the encouragement, I'll keep trying. Ngrewal1 (talk) 18:55, 3 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much

Thank you sir. You probably don't know what it means to be appreciated on Wikipedia, which is an extreme rarity nowadays. I am also glad that you appreciate my work in this topic area, although I do not remember having contact with you anywhere before. If you need any assistance from me, please do not hesitate to message me. Although I should warn you that I am topic banned from editing anything on India-Pakistan conflicts and intend to honor the ban until it is lifted. Other than that, I can help you anywhere else where needed. Thank you again for your awards, very much appreciated. It means a lot.--NadirAli نادر علی (talk) 01:38, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Saira Afzal Tarar

We do not need to cite references in in the lead or in the infoboxes because we already have them in the article body. She received the award for her public service during her tenure as Minister for National Health Services Regulation and Coordination so the award should fit in the political section. --Saqib (talk) 18:35, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Saqib: That day I ran into an Edit conflict with you and, as a result, I lost some of my work. I guess none of us knew about it. That's why I used the (in use) template as a caution so it doesn't keep happening over and over. Not a big deal. Although it would be nice if Wikipedia software can warn you, when you first start editing something, that someone else is also editing the same article at the same time? I could have gone to some other article then. Thanks anyway for the above tips....Ngrewal1 (talk) 01:51, 25 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I apologies. --Saqib (talk) 06:02, 25 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, Saqib.

A barnstar for you!

The Pakistan Star
Dear Ngrewal1, thank you for your contributions to WikiProject Pakistan, especially your edits to the Pakistan Interfaith League article. Keep up the good work! You are making a difference here! With regards, AnupamTalk 20:10, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much, @Anupam: - your timing for an uplifting message was perfect, while Corona-virus pandemic has the whole world locked down during this deadly serious health crisis. Also, personally I try my best to show respect to all faiths. With that spirit, I had edited the Pakistan Interfaith League article you pointed out above. Best Regards Ngrewal1 (talk) 22:01, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Article Rescue Barnstar

The Article Rescue Barnstar
For not just saving the articles, but going the extra mile and fixing the associated problems with the articles. Your work is an inspiration for all. Cedix (talk) 22:09, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much, @Cedix:. Happy to help out, whenever I can. Ngrewal1 (talk) 18:51, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Re: A barnstar for you!

Shukria! I genuinely appreciate it a great deal. --Goldsztajn (talk) 20:06, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

BLP Vandalism

Repeated attempts on vandalism of https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Bashir_A._Tahir&action=history Any advice on how to protect this page please? There used to be a warning earlier, although that did not deter some vandals. Also in this case user identified as registered on Wikipedia as Omar79isb whereas last time it was from an IP address in BahrainTruealpha (talk) 03:23, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding your "page move"

Hi, hope you're doing well. I have reverted your edit here. If you have any question regarding the "page move", please ping me. Thanks TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 12:23, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]


University

Salam alaykom!

I saw you made great edits to Faisalabad Medical University. I have been trying to improve International Islamic University, Islamabad. Can you help me with that? VR talk 14:14, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wassalaam, VR ... Will be happy to do it. More than that, we should cooperate and work with each other as Muslims. I need to know very specifically from you

what kind of help you need. I see you have been on Wikipedia for 13 years, and more than likely, we can learn a lot from each other. Best Regards Ngrewal1 (talk) 22:56, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm struggling to find many sources on IIUI. Before this I was editing the article on Al-Azhar university and there were a lot more sources - there is an entire book on the history of that university. Are there books or informative articles on IIUI? If so, please email me PDFs of it.VR talk 03:42, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I did some searches on it but could not find anything close to what you are looking for. My own personal style of wiki-editing is mainly focused on using Pakistani newspaper sources. Ngrewal1 (talk) 21:53, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, do you have Pakistani newspaper sources that can help with expanding the article? VR talk 10:54, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
JazakAllah khayr for your recent edits.VR talk 23:30, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey bro why you changed lumhs University revert it same as it was written , we students are facing many problems so I changed on Wikipedia to make situations better and get our issues solved but you spoiled man Satyaandasatya (talk) 06:46, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Chauburji

Chauburji seems like a great article to improve and nominate for WP:GA. Maybe @Mar4d: can also help? VR talk 00:46, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The Special Barnstar

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Thanks for your contribution in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Killing of Zohra Shah.Lustead (talk) 15:16, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Lustead You were trying to bring attention to ongoing child abuse in this world by creating Killing of Zohra Shah. I supported you due to your efforts for a good cause! I also left you a message on your Talk page. Thanks again. Ngrewal1 (talk) 17:45, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You are right, child abuse is worst criminal offense and we should abolish it at any cost.Lustead (talk) 01:29, 6 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Talk! That's so sweet!!! Wish you the same stuff for years to come. Ngrewal1 (talk) 15:46, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks :) Empire AS Talk! 18:36, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Some stroopwafels for you!

here's for your contributions, especially on Hall Road, Lahore Bekkadn (talk) 16:25, 6 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pakistani cricketers (AfDs)

Hi Ngrewal1. Hope you are doing well. I have AFD some Pakistani cricketers because of poor sourcing as they fail our guideline (WP:GNG). I just wanted to confirm from a Pakistani Wikipedian that regarding quality sources about these people. Please do a search in Pakistani newspapers and if you find any then please add. Also, please share your thoughts on the AfDs. Following is the list:

  1. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mohammad Ilyas (cricketer, born 1996)
  2. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mohammad Afzal (Multan cricketer)
  3. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mohammad Zahid (Faisalabad cricketer)
  4. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khalid Butt (cricketer, born 1975)
  5. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abid Ali (cricketer, born 1979)
  6. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Iftikhar Ahmed (Faisalabad cricketer)
  7. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khadim Hussain (cricketer, born 1976)

Thanks. Störm (talk) 22:06, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Störm, you probably are already aware of my editing interests on Wikipedia over the years? Professional career players that play for money are not 'my cup of tea' as they say. I would rather do olympic players and Pakistani national teams (non-professional players). I'll try to continue participating in AfD discussions, though, whenever I can. Thanks. Ngrewal1 (talk) 21:37, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, please do participate. I thought there is no one from WP:PAK other than you who is active these days. Anyways, thanks. Störm (talk) 21:39, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Re:A barnstar for you!

Dear User:Ngrewal1, I am very honoured to receive a barnstar from you. Indeed, the message that I try to live out in my life is to bring people together and build bridges where there are chasms. This award has made my day and I pray for God's blessings on you and your family. With warm regards, AnupamTalk 18:28, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for the Barnstar!

Your encouragement means a lot to me! Insight 3 (talk) 05:58, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

It means a lot and I very much appreciate your comment, especially given your knowledge and experience. Kind regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 01:04, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Page approval

Hi, I want to ask a thing. Sometimes, a new page is reviewed by an admin and the creator receives a notification, "page is reviewed" and then the page gets live on google. But sometimes, no one reviews it and it automatically becomes live after some days (less than 3 months). What's the mechanism here? Regards! Insight 3 (talk) 17:14, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, I haven't looked into it Insight 3 (talk). Sorry, I wish I knew. Ngrewal1 (talk) 17:29, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It's okay. I am just curious. Thanks for your reply! Insight 3 (talk) 17:34, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Some Help Requested

Hi,

Salam.

I'm interested in keeping some articles up-to-date however I'm unsure how to include the information in Wikipedia article appropriately.

For now the concern is Dr. Faisal Masud's wikipedia article. There's information present about him through mainly two methods: One interview done by his university that's posted on a facebook page by the university, and other is a yearly university journal. I'm unsure how to go about including the information about him on Wikipedia, and provide these digital or otherwise resources as reliable resources.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Baitaal1999 (talk • contribs) 06:35, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Reply I am sure you already know that Faisal Masud's article was a mess and was neglected since 2012 before I spent a full day fixing it yesterday. My best and sincere advice to other people is ... 'do what I and everybody else had to do', just take the time to read and learn Wikipedia rules and guidelines like I had to do. After I finished editing his article, you come in and ADDED Dr. and Professor in the first line of the article, when most people know Wikipedia is very strict about using name titles! So you can start by undoing that. Just spend the time to learn Wikipedia first, please. Also no facebook, twitter or any other social media posts can be added to Wikipedia articles as they are user-generated and not considered third party, independent and reliable sources on Wikipedia. Ngrewal1 (talk) 18:11, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nahid Niazi (famous Pakistani singer married to music composer Moslehuddin) would like a section in wikipedia created for herself. Would you or your colleagues be interested in doing so? If not I can do it.

thank you GGordon999 (talk) 22:48, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Reply Please go ahead and do it. I am extremely busy right now taking care of some other issues. Sorry. I may be able to add to it later when I find time. Sorry again. Thanks... Ngrewal1 (talk) 00:21, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Film Database

Hi Ngrewal1, Hope you are doing fine. I want to ask how do we search any film from the archived pages like CITWF? The "Pak Film Magazine" seems to be gone and now there is no other active site for film data. Thanks. Insight 3 (talk) 04:06, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Reply (User talk:Insight 3), That's exactly why I prefer to use Pakistan Film Magazine's ARCHIVED VERSION. In the recent past years, we have lost the use of Motion Pictures Archive of Pakistan (MPAOP) and others this way. Those websites just disappeared for whatever reasons and I was getting tired of replacing their dead links over and over. In short, I was forced to go to their much more durable ARCHIVED VERSIONS, whenever possible and I started suggesting to you and some other active Pakistani editors to try to do the same.

Similarly regular Complete Index To World Film (CITWF) website stopped working last year and I switched over to their ARCHIVED VERSION as well. I just saved in my Favorites folder ARCHIVED filmographies of Actors, Actresses, Music directors, Film directors and now click on those as needed to select what I need. As we all already know, their Search Boxes no longer work either. Give it a try. Good luck! Ngrewal1 (talk) 15:28, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that's a great loss. We can only archive a page while citing it to Wikipedia, but it is very hard to archive each and every page of a site beforehand for future use. Anyway, plz keep reviewing my recent articles and cite the archived sources where it is possible. Thanks! Insight 3 (talk) 08:31, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Film sources

Hi, Hope you will be doing fine. Please add if you have archived links for following movies:

Sargent

Shola

Thanks. Insight 3 (talk) 13:18, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I tried and looked for you, Insight 3, but no luck and archived links for either one of the movies above. Ngrewal1 (talk) 20:18, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, no problem. Thanks anyway. Insight 3 (talk) Insight 3 (talk) 04:10, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Dear Ngrewal1,

I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the Ten Year Society, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikipedia project for ten years or more. ​

Best regards, Chris Troutman (talk) 18:08, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much for the invitation User:Chris troutman. Is joining the Ten Year Society automatic or do I need to do something? Please let me know here. Thanks again. Ngrewal1 (talk) 17:43, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The page says that joining only requires that you apply one of the relevant user templates/ topicons.(I am not watching this page, so please ping me if you want my attention.) Chris Troutman (talk) 17:49, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hello, Ngrewal1. Thank you for your work on Agha G. A. Gul. User:M.Ashraf333, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

Thank you for your contributions in Wikipedia, as an experienced editor, please don't move the page to mainspace unless its ready, as some of the sections were empty and have no categories on the page and although the subject is notable but it still needs more citations for verification. Thank you

To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with {{Re|M.Ashraf333}}. Please remember to sign your reply with ~~~~. (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

M.Ashraf333 (talk) 19:04, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

M.Ashraf333 Thanks for your concern about categories. Please allow me some time to add categories to the new article. It will have plenty of References and Categories. Thanks again for your concern. Ngrewal1 (talk) 19:30, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

February 2023

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Pakistani sources

Hi, hope you will be fine.

After spending some time in AfDs, I have felt sometimes we have difficulty convincing non-Pakistani editors about the reliability of some Pakistani sources. Therefore, they often seem to apply their own ignorant judgements. I have seen some other countries have special pages regarding their sources, for example, this is for Nigeria. So I think it might be good idea to make one for Pakistani sources. I have created an initial draft:

Draft:Wikipedia:WikiProject Pakistan/Pakistani sources

Please contribute and give your thoughts, and also invite others. I have shared this draft on the noticeboard of WP:Pakistan. Thanks. Insight 3 (talk) 15:07, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Tremendous effort, Insight 3. It's definitely needed! I'll try to contribute to it, whenever I can. My 'Best Regards' to the younger generation that have more time and energy. Right now, to be very frank, I mostly and already have my hands full. My wife and grown-up kids already are complaining about the fact that I have a tendency to bite more than I can chew and neglect my personal health issues. By the way, you may have already noticed that I try to 'cover' all Pakistan-related topics and sometimes go over to the Indian side to maintain their music-related and Islam-related topics. Music has been my passion all my life --- just like you? ...Ngrewal1 (talk) 22:46, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your encouragement, Ngrewal1. Of course, family and health come first. I think this draft would need months to get a general community agreement. So, just do it whenever you find time. Insight 3 (talk) 04:00, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have published the project page Wikipedia:WikiProject Pakistan/Pakistani sources. Please give some input so that it can proceed towards a community consensus. Thanks. Insight 3 (talk) 17:58, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Ngrewal1!

I want know about the deletions proposal by this IP 152.58.124.156 an unregistered account might be by a blocked, banned user or sock puppet himself might be a sock of Mewatikhan and Khanjarref and he is blaming someone sock of two user at a same time sock of🚫 ?.Gujjar, Iran, Gujjar Chah, Gujjar Ghar, And Taank clan. Please report this to an administrator or tag if you know. SanjeevModdi (talk) 23:07, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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