Talk:Jon Brower Minnoch

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Conversions

The conversions on this page are off. For example, 190cm is 6'2.88" (rounded up to 6'3") not 6'1". Minnoch was 185cm, (6'1"), which is what the centimetre figure should read. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.135.134.61 (talk) 19:33, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Fat Bastard?

Wasn't Austen Powers badguy Fat Bastard hi based on him? User:-The Bold Guy--The Bold Guy- 13:08, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a reliable source for that? -- Satori Son 19:07, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Stone

151.151.98.237 (talk) 18:54, 10 November 2008 (UTC) Why clutter the text with measurements in "stones"? Isn't this anachronistic? Are there people who are unfamiliar with both Kg AND Lbs?[reply]

because stone (weight) is not archaic in the UK. Imperial units are not all the same as United States customary units. While people in the UK are familiar with pounds, and use the measure in many contexts, human weight is traditionally measured in stones (apart from newborn babies). Thus saying someone weighed 214 pounds is similar to saying they weigh 3672 ounces; the units are familiar, and with some arithmetic you can understand it, but it is not immediately obvious. jnestorius^(talk) 19:07, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So when did he weighted 628 kg(1400lb)?

Apart from the introduction, article doesn't mention anything more that 450kg. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tiredtime (talk • contribs) 08:20, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

At his admission to the hospital.--Alexmagnus (talk) 12:35, 28 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Back in the 80's, the Guiness Book of Records used to have his weight recorded as 1800lbs (816kg), and only later changed it to "over 1400lbs" Kusanagi-sama (talk) 17:14, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Heaviest primate?

I doubt it. Please provide a source or remove claim —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.229.231.62 (talk) 06:46, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, he almost certainly was. It's unlikely that anyone before the age of modern medicine would have survived to approach the kind of weight this man had, so he's probably one of, if not the, heaviest human in history. Gorillas are the heaviest primates on average, and they only weigh around 400 pounds at most in the wild, and up to around 600 pounds in captivity, and the harsh conditions of the wild would have selected against any super-obese gorillas. So Minnoch likely was the heaviest primate. —Lowellian (reply) 07:01, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ambiguous statement?

I have a very, very minor issue with one statement in this article and would really just like to know if someone could help clarify for me the Wiki policy regarding factually correct statements that could be considered somewhat ambiguous.

The statement is: "Transportation for Minnoch was extremely difficult. It took over a dozen firemen and rescue personnel, a specially modified stretcher, and a ferry boat to transport him to University of Washington Medical Center in Seattle."

The addition of the ferry to the list of the dramatic measures needed to transport him to Seattle could suggest to some the ferry was hired specifically for moving him, when in fact it is quite simply how more than 90% travel between the island and the mainland, as the 35 minute ferry ride is the fastest, easiest and cheapest means to do so. The only other option is a near two hour, 95 mile drive around Puget Sound to cross at the Tacoma Narrows Bridge. Thanks for your help! OneHappyHusky (talk) 05:43, 28 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm surprised the comment was still in the article three years after the above remark. Indeed, there's nothing exceptional about ferry transportation. Perhaps for him they made some sort of special provision, but the statement was unsourced anyway, so I deleted it. —BarrelProof (talk) 00:19, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Succession box

The succession box currently has "Heaviest person ever recorded 1941-1983" which seems misleading; he wasn't the heaviest person for all of his life. When did he become the heaviest person? Also, is there any source which indicates that either Francis John Lang (per Nadavzara741's recent edits) or Robert Earl Hughes (as previously shown) was the world's heaviest person up to the time Minnoch became the heaviest? That's not obvious from this article or from List of the heaviest people. Or should we consider doing without a succession box? NebY (talk) 11:16, 31 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Personal Life

He was married at age 19 to Rian Nicole Porter of Edmond, Oklahoma. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lexidraperr (talk • contribs) 16:11, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Editor admitting to inappropriate re-editing after reversion; is protection or banning needed?

At https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20190525222440AAdJXQa an editor admits having repeatedly edited the article to say "chubbiest" instead of "heaviest" and to having "edited his cause of death to chubbiness", which isn't even accurate.47.139.45.69 (talk) 22:40, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

BMI at death

His BMI at death is given as 105.3, neither verified or mentioned by the GBR source. Using the {{BMI}} template and the parameters {{BMI|cm = 185|lb = 798}} gives 105.8 as his BMI. Should this be replaced?--Auric talk 17:26, 31 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No longer the largest documented weight loss

The article describes this as the largest documented weight loss ever, and cites a 2006 Guinness World Record for it. He was surpassed in 2017 by Khalid bin Mohsen Shaari.^[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nbeam (talk • contribs) 21:40, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://english.alarabiya.net/en/variety/2017/11/18/WATCH-Video-shows-dramatic-weight-loss-transformation-of-young-Saudi-man.html

Second largest weight loss? No Citation

The citation for him having the second largest weight loss in history is to the Guinness book of world records page which doesn't show any one else as having a larger one, where did this information come from? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.173.176.132 (talk) 19:41, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cause of death

With his underlying condition of edema being incurable and difficult to treat, the decision was made to discontinue treatment...

This statement is unsourced, and is not supported by the current inline references. In fact, this source refers to a diagnosis of edema and congestive heart failure during his first pre-diet hospitalization, not his last, so I've removed it for now. I tried to find a source that gave an exact cause of death or a diagnosis for his final hospital stay, but couldn't find one. Matuko (talk) 22:27, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jon brower

Minnoch 102.141.196.146 (talk) 12:06, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A mãe do admin é mais gordo

yes 158.162.208.90 (talk) 13:22, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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