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Fixed. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:05, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

April songs

Easter left strong impressions, - I was too busy to wish you a happy one. But it's a long season, so hopefully not too late ;) -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:30, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Gerda! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:31, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My story today, Messiah (Handel), was my first dip into the FA ocean, thanks to great colleagues. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:08, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Never bathed there. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:12, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sometimes it's chilly. You could run a peer review for the Oceanides, to find out! - Today is the 80th birthday of John Eliot Gardiner. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:08, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Sachinupadh1234 (04:30, 16 April 2023)

Hello, i want to create a page --Sachinupadh1234 (talk) 04:30, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Sachinupadh1234, hello and welcome to Wikipedia. I see you have started Draft:KARUNANIDHAN BHAWAN SEVA TRUST. See WP:BACKWARD for what is necessary to make an acceptable WP-article. IF you have the sources demanded there, see WP:TUTORIAL on how to add references correctly, this is ESSENTIAL. If the sources don't exist, you can't make a WP-article about that subject. Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing may be of interest to you. Good luck! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:34, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Buddhism and Humor

Hi. I hope you like my contribution to your draft which I stumbled across.[1] I'm afraid I'm not so good with citation formats. In particular references to the Buddhist scriptures normally take the form "Digha Nikaya iii.35" The numbers are references to the texts themselves, being the volume and page number of the Pali which then appear in the published translations (so they should not be preceded by "pp" but neither should they be in italics). This makes it is easier for most people to look for as it doesn't depend on their using a specific translation. Good luck with the other sections! If you remain stuck perhaps this could become a standalone article some time. Shantavira|^{feed me} 11:58, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Shantavira Thanks for looking at my draft! My ignorance about Buddhism is monumental, so I'm glad someone is interested in improving it. I use WP:REFTOOLBAR for cites, it works fairly well. You should add page numbers when you cite something like The Buddha Smiles.

Ṭhānissaro Bhikkhu has a WP-article, so unless someone else objects, I'll assume he's an ok source, though of course writing from inside Buddhism (and I wonder why I can't find an isbn). I have no idea if his views are more or less Buddhist mainstream or represents a smaller group. Is in-text attribution reasonable here ("according to Ṭhānissaro Bhikkhu" etc)?

Some of what you've added seems to be WP:RSPSCRIPTURE sources, like Dīgha Nikāya, and that's not how a WP-article like this should be written. We want academics writing about these texts/Buddhist beliefs, not editor's take on the texts themselves. Stuff like "the Tipitaka contains many examples. The texts are also rich in puns that are often lost in translation." can't be sourced to the text itself, WP needs an academic saying it, pretty much. When I started The Bible and humor, it was clear that sources pointed out that it's very difficult to say if what we may read as humor today was intended as humor by the authors all those years ago. We need academic interpretation. Ping to @Jenhawk777 if you feel like commenting. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:27, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the feedback. I'll take another look at it in due course. Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:08, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Women scientists on Wikipedia

You may be interested in "The British physicist making women scientists visible online", published on 20 April on sites including Phys Org and Yahoo News.--Ipigott (talk) 10:26, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Boosquet (14:49, 25 April 2023)

Hi! I have 2 questions: 1. I created a draft article that I submitted for review. An editor asked some questions, I answered those questions and made some edits and submitted the draft again, but I haven't heard back in a couple of days. 2. Some references links I used Saud the URL is wrong (even though I can click on them and they seem valid). It says the error is "cite".

Thanks ! --Boosquet (talk) 14:49, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Boosquet, assuming it's Draft:Isabelle Freidheim. Reviews are made by volunteers in no particular order, like the template says, "This may take 4 months or more". DoubleGrazing may feel they've done their bit and moved on to something else, leaveing the next review to someone else.

Do you mean the "External link in |website=" that you see in the Reference section? For example, in your current ref [63], change "|website=https://seattlereports.com/" to "|website=seattlereports.com".

Unasked advice: Your draft has WP:TOOMANYREFS and WP:EL problems. I can't tell if you have any WP:GNG sources in it or not, and no wish to search for them in all those refs.

Stuff like

Her husband Scott Freidheim was CEO of private equity firm Investcorp in Europe, CEO of CDI Corp, Chairman of ettain group and is a member of the World Economic Forum. He was a key executive at Lehman Brothers until its collapse in 2008. He is a former board member of Spelman College and is a board member of the board of trustees of the United States Olympic and Paralympic Foundation. He is a past board member of the Institute of International Education, which administers the Fulbright scholarship, and the Scholar Rescue Fund within the IIE.

should be shortened to

She is married to American businessman Scott Freidheim. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:01, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I understand, thank you! That’s helpful.

Also do you know why my other draft was published right away but this one is subject to review? Boosquet (talk) 19:45, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Boosquet, Athena SPACs? Because you started it as an article, not as a draft. When you started Draft:Isabelle Freidheim, you were not WP:AUTOCONFIRMed, so you had to start it as a draft, but by the time you started Athena, you had the "right". However, it's recommended that new users work from drafts anyway, since an article in article-space (drafts are in "draft-space") is supposed to "float" from the second you hit "publish." With drafts, you can take your time, even go to sleep. I always start my articles as drafts. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:02, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Notifications

I have 14 notifications from wikipedia, and even if I read what they are, the number is still on my screen and only grows

Oh also I like to read J.R.R. Tolkein as well. The Capitalist forever (talk) 19:33, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@The Capitalist forever Hi! I only edit on my laptop, so I may not see stuff like you do. If you use the "desktop" view on your device, and click/tap the notification icon, you should see a "mark all as read" "button." Does that help? You should also see little clickable blue dots for individual notifications.Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:34, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much! It worked. Is desktop better for editing as well? I have an account on a device no one has probably used ever to edit on Wikipedia. A Playstation Vita -web browser. Thanks for the good advice!The Capitalist forever (talk) 19:56, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@The Capitalist forever I think you can do more stuff, but since I almost never edit from my phone (and then I absolutely use desktop since it looks like laptop), I'm not the one to ask about "better." User:Cullen328/Smartphone editing may be of help, it's not brand new though. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:09, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ok thanks. I have talked to Cullen328 recently. He's a nice man. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Capitalist forever (talk • contribs) 20:40, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Hello,

I just wanted to thank you for your kind words of encouragement on my Talk page. I can see from your Talk page that you are obviously a very accomplished and busy Wikipedian, so I'm impressed that you would take the time to pay attention to a little old newbie like me. I can only hope that, someday, my Talk page might be as full and interesting as yours. And, one last comment: I applaud you for the idea of an article on "Shatner pause." Best wishes to you in that noble endeavor!

Yesthatbruce (talk) 01:00, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Yesthatbruce Again, welcome! I think the idea came when I was working on Shakespeare and Star Trek. Wikipedia is a very special place, hope you'll like it! I don't know what you're interested in, but scrolling through Wikipedia:Dashboard can give a sort of overview of "what's going on". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:35, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Precious anniversary

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:46, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Gerda! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:56, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Jumping monk (05:09, 2 May 2023)

Hello Sang

I trust you are well.

I wrote an article on Dr Rohit Singh Malan. Could you go over it and suggest changes? I shall be grateful.

Regards --Jumping monk (talk) 05:09, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Jumping monk Hello! I checked the sources on User:Jumping monk (that is your WP:USERPAGE btw), and afaict, none of them meet the demands of WP:N, WP:s rule for "should WP have an article about...". They are all WP:ABOUTSELF like linkedin, YT or quora or from subject's school/employer. If that is the best sources available atm, this will not be accepted as a WP-article. To make one example, content like "Other activities" is only interesting on WP in you can source it to, say, The Telegraph or The Times of India.

Wikipedia:Autobiography may be of interest. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:32, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, if you are waiting for that page to be automatically reviewed/accepted at some point, that's not how it works, see Wikipedia:So_you_made_a_userspace_draft#Ready! (and the rest of that page). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:48, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A bit more about the "Minding the Campus" piece

I do consider the author's characterization of me to be a form of transphobic off-Wiki harassment. Not yet sure if I will be pursuing sanctions against the associated user account or not, but it's a reason why I do not want it highlighted. Knowing that, if you would like to self-revert your comment on the article talk page, please feel free to remove my reply. You may not be aware of how often those of us who enforce the consensus on race and intelligence are targeted by off-Wiki harassment, but it is a serious impediment to the proper functioning of the encyclopedia in this particular fringe area. I ask that you take this into consideration. Generalrelative (talk) 17:21, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Generalrelative My knee-jerk reaction go the other way, I think opinions from different quarters deserve this kind of coverage, doing otherwise makes me think white-washing/criticism-hiding. That the author has also edited WP is irrelevant, template-wise. But I can understand it's more personal for you, so I'll go WP:DONTBEADICK on this. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:38, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Much appreciated. Generalrelative (talk) 19:03, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just Finished

Hello @Gråbergs Gråa Sång:, thanks for your help on the article I have been drafting on Dewar's Candy Shop. I just finished and I would like know if it is good enough to be submitted or if I need to add to it. Also, if you any other heading ideas instead of Achievments in the article, please let me know. Thank you so much! (Note:This is my first article) The Capitalist forever (talk) 06:10, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång:Thank you so much for taking time out of your day to improve my article! I greatly appreciate it!The Capitalist forever (talk) 07:35, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@The Capitalist forever Hello and good work! I made some WP:BOLD changes. In the environment of (for good reason) suspicious Wikipedians, an article like this should be careful to avoid the appearance of WP:PROMO/MOS:PUFFERY. As an example, see the afd of an article of mine:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christoph Steidl Porenta. You can't really help editors wondering if you have a WP:COI when you make an article like this, but on the whole, they will be civil about it.

I removed [2] because despite the publisher, it was mostly an ad. But on the whole, good find and good work, this will afaict be accepted. You can skip the "submit" process and WP:MOVE it to article-space yourself, it's allowed, but since it's your first article, submitting is not wrong. Patience may be required. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:53, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Btw, my first article was Saturday Night Live parodies of Bill Clinton. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:55, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

One more thing: In the article-text, it's WP-style not to have spaces between citations, or between citation and preceding punctuation. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:58, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also, [3] seems to be a WP:BLOG. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:08, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång:, Thank you so much for the advice! I appreciate your changes to the article. Anyway, on the spacing between inline citation, an editor who wasn't me did most of that. Source No. 6, I put in it because at the Teahouse, I was suggested to find independent reviews for the place. I'll go ahead and submit the article for review. Thank you again so much!! The Capitalist forever (talk) 15:55, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång:, can I submit the draft (Which I have already done) and at the same time move it to an article space? If so, could you please do that for me if possible because I am quite confused by the WP:MOVE article. Sorry to bother so much. Thank you! The Capitalist forever (talk) 23:55, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@The Capitalist forever Ok, things may not be as simple as I hoped. The instructions at WP:MOVE assumes you're on a laptop (per [4] you're not) or in "desktop" view on your device. Adding to this, the instructions I pointed you to are also slightly outdated because WP:VECTOR2022, things don't look quite like they used to, except for the editors who kept things old-style by choice.

Can I move Draft:Dewar's Candy Shop to article-space now that you submitted it already? I'm actually not sure, never done exactly that. @Bishonen, hi! If I move the submitted Draft:Dewar's Candy Shop to article-space, will I break something somewhere? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:49, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång: for extra information, My device is has mostly been in Desktop mode, except for when I read articles because navigation is easier on Mobile mode. The Capitalist forever (talk) 07:09, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Arya7866 (17:35, 19 May 2023)

hiiiiiiii. How are you? --Arya7866 (talk) 17:35, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

good~~Strikethrough~~@Gråbergs Gråa Sång Arya7866 (talk) 17:36, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Arya7866. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:42, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I got information

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång:, Hello again. I talked to Cullen328 and he said that it is possible to submit a draft for Afc and move it to article space. Bad news is that he said its bad form and not at all recommended to do. Besides that, I was curious if there is a section where I can search Templates for userboxes. For example, I would like to your userbox that says you enjoy the works of J.R.R. Tolkein, but when I copied your template, it didn't work. Anyway, where can I search up userbox titles? The Capitalist forever (talk) 05:55, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@The Capitalist forever If you see a userbox you like somewhere, you can look at the wikitext of that page, see Help:Editing#Edit_screen(s), and copypaste the code, for example, the Tolkien userbox is

On looking for userboxes, see WP:List of userboxes. See also WP:UBCR.

Btw, you never have to ping someone at their own talkpage, it has no extra effect. Also, per above thread, you don't seem to use the Help:Talk_pages#Reply_tool in talkpage discussions, and it's pretty helpful, and it automaticaly WP:INDENT your talkpage comments. As you see there, you can also easily ping people with it. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:30, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thank you so much for the answer/info! The Capitalist forever (talk) 06:40, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you again for helping me bring this article into fruition. I really appreciate it! The Capitalist forever (talk) 15:34, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Raegan Revord

I see you've done a lot of work on Draft:Raegan_Revord. I appreciate it, and hope the article finally gets moved to main space! (It was in my user space for a while a couple years or so ago.)

On a side note, from your user boxes, we seem to have a lot of common interests. Alden Loveshade (talk) 01:41, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Alden Loveshade Sometimes you have to wait for sources to catch up: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Meghan Markle. Also, I think one aspect here is that WP:RS is more careful when they write about "kids". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:32, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Concert regarding your revert of my rewording of the lead section of the Jai Shree Ram Page

You mentioned that my edit failed the Wikipedia:Reliable sources and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view "Giving "equal validity" can create a false balance" tests. I disagree.

My edit was "The expression gained prominence in the late 20th century, being associated with Indian Hindu nationalist organisations like the Vishva Hindu Parishad (VHP), Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), and their allies. It was used as a means to increase the visibility of Hinduism in public spaces and was adopted as a rallying cry. However, it is worth noting that there have been claims of the slogan being used in instances of communal violence against people of other faiths." I do not know what failed the Reliable sources test as I neither added a new claim nor did I modify a source. Furthermore I do not understand how my edit failed the Wikipedia:Neutral point of view test as my edit did not give any false balance to any equal view. Even a cursory search can show that all my claims are easily verifiable through mainstream media articles in india Alexandria Bucephalous (talk) 06:14, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

WP:RS don't say "there have been claims", they say it happened. That's watering down, like changing battle cry to rallying cry. This is a discussion for the article talkpage though, so I'll move it there:Talk:Jai_Shri_Ram#Disagreement_on_WP:LEAD-change,_moved_from_my_talkpage Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:06, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

FYI

User talk:2600:4041:5878:6900:94A4:2B15:7C94:6C0A § May 2023. Feel free to ping me if there's more disruption on the article. Given the past history, I can't help but wonder if the IP knows something we don't, but if that's the case they'll have to use their words. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she|they|xe) 07:24, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Tamzin Thanks, that's what I was thinking too. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:34, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Good Humor
	For (trying) to bring levity into the Czechia discussion. CMD (talk) 00:46, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

One can always try. And thanks! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:09, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

User attacks

Hi Gråbergs Gråa Sång! I see you have also been on the receiving end of attacks from Unbiased6969, so I included one of the threads you participated in on the page "Personal attacks and aspersions from Unbiased6969" if you would like to participate.

PartyParrot42 (talk) 17:16, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A user who puts "Unbiased" in their username would never do such a thing. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:33, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

And I see now that you're both blocked. Funny, that happened to another editor I discussed Nipper with. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:10, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Press coverage 2023

Hi Gråbergs Gråa Sång, just got a question regarding your edit to the Wikipedia:Press coverage 2023 page on 1 June 2023. I understand that the press coverage page is used to refer to Wikipedia as a whole rather than single Wikipedia pages. With the Stuff article on the Gloriavale Christian Community, where would be the best place to it? Just wanted to get your advice. Andykatib (talk) 00:49, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Andykatib IMO the place is Talk:Gloriavale Christian Community, where you also put it. Some press fits in both places, like [5]. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:06, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Gråbergs, thanks very much for your advice. I agree that the Gloriavale talk page will be the best page to put that item. Have a good weekend and thanks for your time. Andykatib (talk) 01:55, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A Squirrel and Ice Cream Cone for you!

Thanks for being the best Wikipedia editor I have ever met! The Capitalist forever (talk) 07:40, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, did he find some Dewart's? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:45, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I hope so haha! The Capitalist forever (talk) 07:47, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pretty soon,I will be starting another article on another ice cream place called Creamistry. They seem to have alot of sources and they are a larger chain store amount-wise than Dewar's Ice Cream. What's special about them is that they make their ice cream right in front of you using very cold nitrogen which you can see and feel while standing in line for your food. Chemistry-Creamistry! The Capitalist forever (talk) 08:00, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]