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Could someone please edit the venues and cities so that grounds not being used in the tournament proper (ie, warm-up grounds) are listed separately.

What TV networks show the world cup online?

I'm looking for some but haven't been sucessful.

Williow.tv or dishcricket.com among others, look around there's quite a few around.--Thugchildz 06:08, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What stadiums applied for the 2007 World cup?

I'm just curious, as their was mention of a stadium in Florida that seems to have been edited out now.

Eh?

"Australia, India, England and West Indies have been placed in separate pools to allow for logistics." Who can explain what this means?

I think it means that since these four teams are expected to have the largest number of fans show up, they were placed separately to allow for the 'logistics' of hotels, restaurants, etc.

I - amazingly - am not playing Tardis Tennis at the moment. 3 July 2005 21:34 (UTC)

There you go. -dmmaus 3 July 2005 23:16 (UTC)

Cheers - that does make sense. -I - amazingly - am not playing Tardis Tennis at the moment. 4 July 2005 11:11 (UTC)

warm up matches

Group WA Jamaica Trelawny 05 March WI v KEN 06 March IND v NED 08 March KEN v NED 09 March IND v WI

Group WB St. Vincent 05 March ENG v BER 06 March AUS v ZIM 08 March ZIM v BER 09 March AUS v ENG

Group WC Trinidad, Brian Lara 05 March SA v CAN 06 March PAK v IRE 08 March IRE v CAN 09 March PAK v SA

Group WD Barbados, 3W's 05 March SL v SCO 06 March NZ v BAN 08 March SCO v BAN 09 March NZ v SL

What's the funda of the warmup matches? IT's a first, right?! It needs to be included in the main article..

—Karthik.raman 04:38, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not a first. Warmup matches have been there for a long time. Tintin (talk) 05:08, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Are the warm-ups officially accredited ODIs? Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:35, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

nope--Thugchildz

Cost of stadium construction and renovation

I have included the cost of stadium construction and renovation wherever possible. I request others to fill in the info for the remaining stadiums

Freedom of Travel among the host nations

According to the link in the 'see also' section, visitors for this Cricket World Cup will be able to travel freely amongst the host nations and (for those who need it) can use a single visa. Was this ever instituted for any of the previous world cups that had more than one host nation? Perhaps a stub section about this should be included in the main article with a link to the main information in 'CARICOM Visa and Freedom of Travel...'? 72.27.27.9 02:57, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Map

I drew a map which I felt the article needs badly. Unfortunately I'm not too good at this sort of thing so if anyone can improve it, please do so. Regards, —Moondyne 15:18, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Zimbabwe

I noticed that Zimbabwe is listed under ODI & Test status, although from knowledge they voluntarily withdrew from test status due to the political situation & eventual floggings on the field. So the question, should they just be listed as an ODI team. --Arnzy (talk • contribs) 11:33, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

They're still a full member of the ICC and still have Test status. Officially they have been excused from their Test obligations under the Future Tours Program. It has been reported as having their Test status suspended/withdrawn/etc but they could still theoretically play Tests if they wanted to. Andrew nixon 12:28, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Linkspam

This article has regularly had a variety of links added into the =External Links= section which have generally been reverted fairly promptly per WP:EL. The links remaining are:

http://www.cricketworldcup.com 2007 Cricket World Cup website
http://www.cricketworldcup.com/pdfs/event-overview.pdf ICC Overview of 2007 World Cup
http://www.icc-cricket.com/events/worldcup/ ICC website - Cricket World Cup page
http://www.cricinfo.com/worldcup2007/ Cricinfo - Cricket World Cup 2007

all of which I'm fairly happy with. Is there a consensus that these links are all OK and that any additional links should pass through here for discussion before being added? I'd say its highly likely we will be getting lots more added in the next couple of weeks, esp blogs etc. —Moondyne 04:27, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would say those should be the only ones that should be there so yeah--Thugchildz 06:25, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fire Scare/Gas Leak

Does anybody think its worth adding the fire scare/gas leak at the Hilton Hotel on March 7, where the SA and Pak teams were staying? Either to this article or 2007 Cricket World Cup warm-up matches - Ozzykhan 21:58, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, not really...it wasn't a big deal... just gas...--Thugchildz 00:12, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Logo

Just an imitation one. Not the original. rohith 19:54, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Warm up matches

Isn't it better to move the Warm up matches section from "Structure" to "Lead Up" ? - Ozzykhan 23:06, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Opening Ceremony

Should we add an Opening Ceremony section in the lead up section? We can probably add a couple of pictures as well - Ozzykhan 14:23, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Drawing of lots

I was asked by Batsnumbereleven to explain why the groups weren't drawn. I'll repost this here:

It went as follows:

Australia (1): group A Sri Lanka (2): group B New Zealand (3): group C Pakistan (4): group D.

Now, from the next level (5-8) there were three teams that had to be kept apart from Australia, so South Africa (5) had to go in Australia's group. Normally the eighth-seed would have played Australia, but India and Australia had to be kept apart. Thus, West Indies (6) went in group D, England (7) in C and India (8) in B.

The ECB press release which is cited [1] reads: "If the draw were made using the rankings as they stand at the moment, the groups would be as follows:". This suggests there was no drawing of lots involved whatsoever. Sam Vimes | Address me 09:13, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Scorecards?

I added a scorecard summary to the first of the completed group games, but this was swiftly removed with no more explanation than "this is not the place for scorecards". I notice from the 2003 WC article they were also absent. Can someone explain why this is not considered appropriate, given this is the World Cup, and not just any old(!) ODI series? Surely the scores accumulated at a World Cup can prove particularly significant? - 81.5.170.199 03:31, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is wikipedia article, and each information we add is supposed to be encyclopedic. It is not supposed to be a database or an archive of information.

Also note that, there are 51 matches in the entire tournament. It is not even possible to imagine, a single page containing scorecards of 51 matches.

For more details, please see what Wikipedia is not. Thanks. - KNM ^Talk 03:37, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I see what you mean about having all such data on the same (main) page - it would be very long as an HTML file and pretty unwieldy if not broken down. However, I don't see that something such a scores table violates the WP:NOT nor that it is inherently unencyclopedic. Quite the opposite - tables of data (eg lists of Kings, Presidents and their dates; scores in key sports tournaments; lists of anniversaries, etc) are exactly what you find in encyclopedias, and do not violate any of the principles listed in WP:NOT. If you browse the bold definitions of what WP is not, none of them apply to such tabulated factual data or statistics.

However, as I said, I agree it would be cumbersome to have such data listed completely on the main page of the article, but supplementary page(s) would seem appropriate. Having said that I'm not on any personal crusade about it, so whatever. I just fail to see that a blanket ban on such data (whether it be sports scores or other tabulated data as mentioned above) is at all in keeping with the concept of a proper encyclopaedia nor that it violates anything listed under WP:NOT. - 81.5.170.199 03:48, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My Page 2007 World Cup Matches too was hotlinked for deletion.True,a page on World Cup matches may seem cumbersome and unnecessary.However,it does make it much easier for contributing articles with statistical data.Ravichandar84 04:40, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Schedule format

I feel that the current schedule for the league matches and Super 8 is too long, making the article somewhat unwieldy. Would it be possible to use a more compact format such as the one shown here? This essentially combines the four league groups into one table, and reorganizes the Super 8 table. Both tables have sufficient space in each cell to write each team's score and the match result. If there are no objections to this, I'll do it in the next few days. -- Brhaspati\^talk/_contribs 04:04, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, because the results of the games will go into those sections and there won't be room with a table like that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 155.144.251.120 (talk) 04:34, 14 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Match Results

I feel that the match results should be displayed in the main page just as they are at the Warm-up page. Its much more easier to understand the results at a glance, rather than to decipher from the scores. Plz do this. it would be much better. Visuandre 18:29, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pls. elaborate the meaning of TBD that appear in the column of the country name in the table of super8 result.

score Cards

I know people cite WP:NOT to not have score cards, but look at the soccer world cup pages: like this 2006_FIFA_World_Cup_-_Group_F unbelieveable what they get!--155.144.251.120 21:40, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Editing

What other editing does it require - anything about media coverage and stuff ? Wildpixs 13:20, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Flags

I can understand why the West Indies have a custom flag (not actually a nation) - is there some reason why the Irish, out of all the national teams, have a custom flag rather than a national flag used in the scoreboxes? Wouldn't it be better to go one way or the other? 60.226.133.172 15:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's because the Irish team represents both the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. Hence using the Republic of Ireland flag would be incorrect. Sam Vimes | Address me 15:41, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Score updates"

Are score updates for matches in progress really appropriate here? WP:NOT specifies that "Wikipedia should not offer first-hand news reports on breaking stories. Wikipedia is not a primary source.", so I would have thought that score updates would be inappropriate... --Dave. 18:44, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, matches should only be updated at the end of the game. Compare with the last football World Cup. Lugnuts 19:48, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't count score updates as "breaking news", so its fine for me. Visuandre 07:55, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fall of Wickets & Match Info

Would be nice to see a Fall of Wickets segment too. And i'm also of the opinion that Match info such as Toss & Man of the Match should be put along with umpires, teams etc (just like how it is at the source). The opening segment should only consist a summary of the match. Visuandre 07:55, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pakistan

Why is Pakistan eliminated whilst it could still theoretically get 4 points and beat Ireland's lead? Can someone explain this please. Funkyduncan 10:10, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

They've already lost against West Indies, so they can only get two points by beating Zimbabwe. Sam Vimes | Address me 10:15, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

what is TBD written in the column of country in the table of super 8 result

Pls. see the headline. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.112.218.18 (talk) 14:19, 18 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

"TBD" means "To Be Decided" - in other words, these will be decided by the results of the group stages. Similar abbreviations you might see in tables/dates can be "TBC" (To Be Confirmed) or "TBA" (To Be Arranged/Agreed) - 82.153.142.82 19:25, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why have Australia been put there? If they lose their next game, there is still a small chance they can go out right?

Should we add Bob Woolmer's death?

I want to know if its a good idea to add Bob Woolmer's death in the article.--Blackhole77 19:34, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think its better to expand it on his article. We should at least wait till the end of the tournament and have a section like legacy of the world cup or something like that. And have the highs of the world cup the lows of the world cup and this sad death.--Thugchildz 19:37, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would be the respectful thing to mention it, as it does overshadow the tournament. Maybe it should wait, until we add a "review" section at the end, when we can mention it in the detail Mr. Woolmer deserves. к1иgf1$н£я5ω1fт 20:05, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]