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Colloquial use of word "sees"

The article is copy protected, I can't make even a minor edit. First paragraph: " the course of a year sees the passing of the seasons". The course of a year doesn't have eyes; it can't see anything. There are perfectly good, non-figurative words that can be used instead of "sees". How about "features"? 2604:2000:2FC0:F:E123:5FF5:2949:5DEF (talk) 01:44, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A reasonable comment but "features" isn't exactly an improvement: it refers to a single event. My first idea was "marks" but no: maybe the months mark the passing of the seasons but not the whole year. Anyone else? Meanwhile, "sees" is inoffensive. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 10:06, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The orbital period is mentioned but not given for comparison

it would be nice to have the actual number for the orbital period (365.2422) when it is mentioned to compare to the 400 year average approximation of 365.2425. Also, add citation https://www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/Numbers/Math/Mathematical_Thinking/calendar_calculations.htm Zectbumo (talk) 11:47, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Actual number in which year? The whole point of taking a 400 year average is to even out the occasional tiny gravitational ripples that affect the seventh significant digit. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 12:26, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Year#Astronomical tears section gives several "actual numbers" for various kinds of years. The calendar was designed to approximate the tropical year, which is not what astronomers would call an "orbital period". The orbital period is also known as the anomalistic year. Jc3s5h (talk) 13:15, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We provide many comparative figures, such as in Year#Julian calendar, Year#Gregorian calendar and Year#Sidereal, tropical, and anomalistic years, plus a comparative table at Year#Summary. I fear any more repetition would risk wearying the reader, or even perplexing them (Why am I being told this again? Is it somehow different from the last time I was told it?).

For which particular statement in the article should we add that citation? At first glance everything we say is already fairly clearly supported by our references. NebY (talk) 13:47, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

the citation at www.grc.nasa.gov suggested by Zectbumo is a NASA educational website and is less precise and less rigorous than the other references included in the article. Jc3s5h (talk) 14:09, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

365.2422 is not the orbital period, but the tropical year (which is what the word "year" without qualifiers actually refers to, the entire first part of the article is quite wrong). 51.175.156.113 (talk) 15:39, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]