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RM, Annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation → 2014 Russian annexation of Crimea, withdrawn by nominator, 19 July 2022, Discussion
RM, Annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation → Occupation of Crimea, withdrawn by nominator, 2 July 2020, Discussion

On 1 February 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to 2014 Russian invasion and annexation of Crimea. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

On 10 May 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to 2014 Russian invasion of Crimea. The result of the discussion was WP:DENY, sockpuppet of a well-known disruptive user in this topic area.

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 April 2023

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TankDude2000 (talk) 08:59, 12 April 2023 (UTC) I suggest that we should move some parts of this article to the page 2014 Russian invasion of Crimea, while we keep the current article. Obviously the situation wasn’t just an annexation, it was an invasion as well! This is the reason the following pages: Russian invasion of Ukraine and Russian annexation of Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk and Zaporizhzhia oblasts are separate![reply]

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit extended-protected}} template. M.Bitton (talk) 11:17, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Split article

I suggest that we should move some parts of this article to the page 2014 Russian invasion of Crimea, while we keep the current article. Obviously the situation wasn’t just an annexation, it was an invasion as well! This is the reason the following pages: Russian invasion of Ukraine and Russian annexation of Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk and Zaporizhzhia oblasts are separate! TankDude2000 (talk) 07:39, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There’s a broader article Russian occupation of Crimea. It is less mature and needs work, but the scope of its subject should be treated as a parent article to this one. —Michael Z. 16:13, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I refer to an article reffering to the 2014 invasion of Crimea and another one for the annexation. TankDude2000 (talk) 18:07, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well the other already is about the military invasion and occupation, including the political annexation. This one is about the annexation including military events of the invasion and occupation. The difference from what you’re proposing is not substantive, only one of emphasis. Please expand these articles to include what you think they deserve. —Michael Z. 18:40, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 10 May 2023

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The result of the move request was: WP:DENY, sockpuppet of a well-known disruptive user in this topic area. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Czello ^(music) 07:26, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation → 2014 Russian invasion of Crimea – It clearly was an invasion, rather than only an annexation, with 3 deaths happening. Having the current title seems like it was only an exchange of territories, which obviously didn’t happen. Oh, and about the Annexation of Tibet by the People's Republic of China, Tibet wasn’t a de jure independent republic, and China cannot invade itself, so we should not change that title. After we change this page’s title, we should make a page only about the annexation. WikiManUser21 (talk) 04:06, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Not sure this would be an improvement. The actual article about that subject already exists: Russian occupation of Crimea. These two articles need improvement more than renaming. —Michael Z. 14:31, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That article is about the military occupation, not the 2014 invasion. WikiManUser21 (talk) 17:25, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per above comment by User:Mzajac. 162 etc. (talk) 16:58, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The user didn’t support or oppose yet. WikiManUser21 (talk) 17:27, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I, however, do oppose. 162 etc. (talk) 20:13, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note that the requested move was made by a Confirmed sock.-- Ponyo^{bons mots} 22:18, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 May 2023

WP:DENY, sockpuppet of a well-known disruptive user in this topic area — Czello ^(music) 07:25, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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There are still debates on whether the invasion of Crimea and the pro-Russian protests started on February 20 or 23, so I guess that we should replace February 20 with February 20/23. WikiManUser21 (talk) 17:34, 10 May 2023 (UTC)strike sock -- Ponyo^{bons mots} 22:19, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit extended-protected}} template. — Czello ^(music) 17:43, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You mean the “Date” field in the infobox? Not sure what protests have to do with it. The dates represent the likely dates of initial Russian invasion and the final ousting of Ukrainian forces.

Actually material should be moved to the newer article Russian occupation of Crimea. This article on the annexation should be slimmed down and the date should be the actual annexation, March 18. —Michael Z. 20:17, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Closing pending consensus.

I'm a big fan of explanatory footnotes^[a], so I would suggest adding one to the lead to explain the lack of clarity. Actualcpscm (talk) 18:23, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Remove broken Yahoo reference [4]. The adjacent refs [5] and [6] cover the same story. Spingleton (talk) 12:02, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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