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July 25

The opposite of Woodstock?

What was the name of that rock festival in California which happened soon after Woodstock and at which there were a lot of brawls and one guy got killed? 10:43, 25 July 2023 (UTC) 2601:646:9882:46E0:4CE6:2E89:F4A5:404A (talk) 10:43, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I assume you're looking for Altamont Free Concert. --Wrongfilter (talk) 11:24, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, that's the one I was thinking about! That's because I've recently read about the 1980 Tbilisi rock festival and heard it called the "Russian Woodstock" -- but when I've read more about it, I thought it was more like Altamont than Woodstock, with knife fights in the audience (although admittedly non-fatal), equipment breakdowns and drunken disorderly conduct from some of the band members (notably Martin Browns of "Sipoli" and Boris Grebenschikov of "Aquarium", the latter band having been disqualified outright as a result)! 2601:646:9882:46E0:60AF:5081:D53D:5559 (talk) 03:39, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, and a follow-up question: were the Aces of Cups scheduled to perform at Altamont, and if so, did they actually play anything, or did they cancel their entire set when their lead singer got hit in the head with a beer bottle? 2601:646:9882:46E0:583C:9E38:AA7E:C4C0 (talk) 06:58, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It seems like The Ace of Cups stopped their heavy touring and performing schedule in October, 1969, two months before the Altamont debacle, although they stuck together for a few more years. Denise Jewkes Kaufman of that band, who was pregnant at the time, attended the concert with her husband as fans not performers, and they took a picnic lunch. She was hit in the head by a large thrown beer bottle, causing a serious injury that required surgery. My source is a book called Just a Shot Away: Peace, Love, and Tragedy with the Rolling Stones at Altamont. Personal disclosure: I had seen the Rolling Stones perform on the same tour, in Detroit on November 24, 1969, two weeks before Altamont. I was 17 years old back then. Cullen328 (talk) 07:36, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This is confirmed by this blog post, which lists all Ace of Cups performances, the last of 1969 listed on 11 October. --Wrongfilter (talk) 07:48, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Recent video game needs information about its creation and developer

An article I've written, Only Up!, is missing information about its developer, SCKR Games. I've tried using the custom video game search engine and found nothing. I've tried filtering out results using the regular Google search engine, but nothing pops up.

The only information I have is that they're an independent game studio based in South Korea with an official Twitter account. The same can be said for the concept: I've seen many sources state that the game was inspired by "Jack and the Beanstalk", one source even says the developers confirmed it.

Video game newspapers haven't really helped me, either. They usually write about how popular the game was and give basic information about the game itself.

If there are no sources, how long do I have to wait until new information pops up? Thanks, TarantulaTM (speak with me) (my legacy) 16:59, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As long as it takes for that to happen – Reliable sources will write about the developer when they choose to, and (probably) nothing that you or I can do will influence that. Our essay WP:Too soon might be of interest.
The article seems mostly well written and well referenced, so it's not in danger of deletion or 'draftification' merely because these additional facts aren't (yet) in it. No Wikipedia article is ever 'finished', they are all works in progress, because further relevant facts might always be found in already-published sources, or may in the future be discovered for the first time and published in them.
Meanwhile, further improvements are possible. For example, the lede paragraph (which strictly should only summarise what is contained and cited in the rest of the article) currently states "The game . . . was massively involved in the speedrunning community". This is not cited in situ, nor does it appear elsewhere in the text, and a 'peacock' term like "massively" should really only be used if it's part of a direct quote in a cited source. Hope this helps. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 51.198.140.169 (talk) 04:10, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Guess my answers will have to wait. Also, I removed that part completely from the article, as I was unable to find a reliable source to back that up. TarantulaTM (speak with me) (my legacy) 05:09, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]


July 28

Funky R&B song

I'm trying to find a song by Maze featuring Frankie Beverly. It has a choral portion which contains a line that sounds like either "because it's my time" or "because it's my turn". Following the line, there's a synthesizer sound like something is being shut down. Does anybody know what song I'm trying to ask about?2603:7000:8641:810E:45CD:C165:2A78:587C (talk) 09:18, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Squirm song

At the start of the classic film Squirm we hear a child singing "I can hear the dark, coming up the stairs...". Do we know the composer, the lyricist, and the performer please? DuncanHill (talk) 22:19, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

IMDb lists music by Robert Prince; perhaps "IMDb Pro" has more info? 136.54.99.98 (talk) 01:29, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This forum thread has (apparently) a contribution from Jeff Lieberman who is the credited lyricist for the film:
I have no idea the of the young lad who sang that song. I do know he was British because the entire score was recorded in London-- with the London philharmonic I might add! So, he would be around 40-45 years old by now, maybe older. Bob Prince definately did the melody but as far as the lyrics go, I seam to recall working on that together with him. I know it was my idea to have a choir boy sounding single voice, and the idea behind it, but "I can hear the darkness, crawling up the stairs" is definately NOT mine. For all I know, Bob wrote all the lyrics, it's been too long.
Hope this helps. Alansplodge (talk) 11:39, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

July 29

[Music, Metre] 17/16 and 21/16

Hi, there exist a folk song (perhaps in Bulgaria?) in 17/16 but grouped exactly as: (2+2+2)+(2+2+3+2+2) ?

and 21/16 as:

(2+2+2)+(2+2+2+2+3+2+2) ?

I really have no idea where/whom to ask this question to. I read articles of B. Kremliev, Arom, T. Rice, Alice Singer, Con. Brailoiu but I found only 17 = 22222223 (i.e. with 223 ending instead of my requested 322), and a variation (elongation) over a 16/16 Pousteno with 17 = (2233)(223).

thanks a lot. best regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vastymedoisa (talkcontribs) 11:20, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe try Musipedia? Shantavira|feed me 15:45, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]


July 30

What sport?

For promotional reasons, today's Toronto Argonauts home game was actually played at Huskies Stadium at St. Mary's University in Halifax. The field had markings in white suitable for both CFL and Canadian university football play, and in yellow for soccer.

But it had a fourth set of markings in orange, and those are what I'm curious about.

One set of 6 lines ran across the field, about a foot from each 5-yard line and exactly along each 24-yard and 44-yard line, thus marking sections 56, 60, 66, 60, and 56 feet long. The other 4 lines ran lengthwise on the field, ending at the lines near the 5-yard lines. Since there is no yard scale in that direction I had to estimate the positions, but I made them to be 5 and 17 yards from each sideline, thus marking sections about 15, 35, 95, 35, and 15 feet wide. The lines along the 24-yard lines were solid orange; all the others were dashed lines. I saw no other orange markings, but of course it's possible that some of the soccer or football markings served an additional purpose.

Anyone recognize what sport these would be for? --142.112.221.64 (talk) 00:37, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe Lacrosse? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots03:58, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The dimensions are wrong for lacrosse. You can see the field in this video and the dimensions of a lacrosse field. At the 0:15 mark, you can see the dotted line is 11 yards from the center of the field, whereas it should be 20 for lacrosse. (A lacrosse field is 110 yards long, the same as for Canadian football.) Clarityfiend (talk) 05:42, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Those are weird dimensions. It's hard to imagine any sport that would use such odd numbers. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:47, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
From the description (the video is unavailable in my area), they sound similar to the dimensions and markings of a Rugby football pitch, which are laid out in metres. See Comparison of rugby league and rugby union#Pitch. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 51.198.140.169 (talk) 06:03, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]