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Fails WP:NAUTHOR and WP:GNG.
Sources are either unreliable or they are making only a passing mention. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 02:06, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: India, Academics, Punjab, Languages, Hinduism, and Islam. --A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 03:24, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
@Aman.kumar.goel, please don't forget the steps listed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion#After nominating: Notify interested projects and editors. Thanks,
- Comment: here are potential refs:
- Bhatt, Kamlesh (24 April 2021). "Sanskrit Sahitya Alankar Samman to Dr. Ved Prakash Upadhyay and Dr. Jagdish Prasad Semwal". Google Translate. Dainik Jagran. Retrieved 4 August 2023.
- "Dr. Ved Prakash Upadhyay will get President's Honor-2018". Google Translate. Khaskhabar.com. 20 August 2018. Retrieved 4 August 2023.
- "Presidential Award to Dr. Ved Prakash Upadhyay". Google Translate. Aggarjan Patrika. 9 April 2019. Retrieved 4 August 2023.
- "Sanskrit scholar Dr. Ved Prakash will reach Panchkula on June 24, has got more than 60 students done PhD". Punjab Kesari. 22 June 2022. Retrieved 4 August 2023.
- Haque, M. Zeyaul. "A Hindu view of Islam". Google Translate. The Milli Gazette. Retrieved 4 August 2023.
- Another ref:
- "Sahitya Ratna Awards announced". The Tribune (Chandigarh). 3 December 2016. Retrieved 4 August 2023.
- --A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 04:20, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
- Another ref:
- Question: the Rashtrapati Award (formerly the President Award of India -- isn't that a big deal? Something like that in other countries would normally qualify someone for notability per WP:ANYBIO and WP:ACADEMIC.
- --A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 04:24, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
- Routine coverage about awards does not verify WP:GNG. Most of these sources make only passing mention. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 02:03, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep His significance is undeniable, as he received numerous additional honors, including the President's Award in the field of literature. 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚜𝚜 01:32, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- Rashtrapati Award is not enough for establishing GNG. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 02:03, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- I think you should read the subject-specific notability guidelines since this biography clearly meets WP:ANYBIO and WP:ACADEMIC. 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚜𝚜 03:52, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- @DreamRimmer: Which source convinced you that the subject meets WP:ACADEMIC or WP:ANYBIO?
BTW, the IP who notified you to this AfD has been blocked for socking.[1]Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 06:04, 5 August 2023 (UTC)- @Editorkamran, Could you please explain where you discovered information indicating my involvement in this matter? While patrolling the recently accepted drafts on AFC/SC, I came across this AfD. The link you provided in your previous comment is for a different AfD, to which I have not responded. 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚜𝚜 06:36, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- I checked the edits of the IP and found that they notified you. But given your explanation, I have removed the tag I had added. Editorkamran (talk) 06:40, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- He received Rashtrapati Award (formerly the President Award), which is a significant and national-level award given by the the President of India. He also received the "Sahitya Ratna Award", a significant award in literature. According to WP:NACADEMIC,
The person has received a highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level.
and per WP:ANYBIO,The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor.
𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚜𝚜 07:18, 5 August 2023 (UTC)- @Aman.kumar.goel, I was not requested to comment here; please do some investigation before making allegations. 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚜𝚜 07:23, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- @Editorkamran, Could you please explain where you discovered information indicating my involvement in this matter? While patrolling the recently accepted drafts on AFC/SC, I came across this AfD. The link you provided in your previous comment is for a different AfD, to which I have not responded. 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚜𝚜 06:36, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- @DreamRimmer: Which source convinced you that the subject meets WP:ACADEMIC or WP:ANYBIO?
- I think you should read the subject-specific notability guidelines since this biography clearly meets WP:ANYBIO and WP:ACADEMIC. 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚜𝚜 03:52, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- Rashtrapati Award is not enough for establishing GNG. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 02:03, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Just winning a notable award is not enough for meeting WP:N. Editorkamran (talk) 05:55, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per my own earlier comments and those of others. Notable.
- --A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 16:37, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- Not a single source provided by you has provided significant coverage to this person. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 03:16, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
- @Aman.kumar.goel, I believe you haven't properly read the notability guidelines. This article is compliant with the subject-specific notability guidelines (SNG), so it does not need to adhere to the general notability guidelines (GNG). According to WP:N;
topics which pass an SNG are presumed to merit an article.
All of the provided information and claims are verified by reliable sources in this article. BTW significant coverage(WP:SIGCOV) is part of WP:GNG. 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚜𝚜 05:18, 6 August 2023 (UTC)- For example, all MLAs (legislators) are notable under WP:NPOL (SNG), even though they lack significant coverage (GNG). 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚜𝚜 05:24, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
- Again, not a single source provided which has provided significant coverage to the subject. Writing a non-notable book and winning a notable award isn't enough. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 05:20, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
- You have WP:COI with this, that's why you are saying it but you can not prove it in detai. 43.245.120.228 (talk) 16:29, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
- Again, not a single source provided which has provided significant coverage to the subject. Writing a non-notable book and winning a notable award isn't enough. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 05:20, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
- For example, all MLAs (legislators) are notable under WP:NPOL (SNG), even though they lack significant coverage (GNG). 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚜𝚜 05:24, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
- @Aman.kumar.goel, I believe you haven't properly read the notability guidelines. This article is compliant with the subject-specific notability guidelines (SNG), so it does not need to adhere to the general notability guidelines (GNG). According to WP:N;
- Not a single source provided by you has provided significant coverage to this person. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 03:16, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
- Delete because once the major puffery & blatant promotionalism are removed there will be nothing left but a successful career as a professor, which is not in itself notable.UrielAcosta (talk) 20:03, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. –Novem Linguae (talk) 04:49, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: Passes 3rd criteria of NAUTHOR as author of Kalki Avatar and Muhammad which has " been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews, or of an independent and notable work".
- Passes 2nd criteria of NACADEMIC as Rashtrapati Award is "a highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level.". 𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙♂️Let's Talk ! 16:43, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
- That book is not notable either. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 05:20, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - Clearly meets WP:ACADEMIC, WP:ANYBIO and WP:GNG. — Masum Ibn Musa Conversation 04:55, 7 August 2023 (UTC)