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YANKEE
The assertion in the current Wiki definition that “Yankee” is a “derrisive term” used in the south employed as an insult is factually incorrect, an error that occurs quite often, usually made by northerners who leap to such an assumption. While it can be used in derrisive language, it can also be used, and IS commonly used by southerners among each other in any allusion to the north or that segment of American culture. It is NOT exclusivey used as an insult, and is more often as not used as a reference to that geographic origin. For example, a southerner may say to snother, “Joe has a yankee accent.”, while indicating to another southerner how Joe speaks—i.e. commonly meaning fast, sharp and nasally and not with a southern accent that is lically common in the south. “Yankee” is and adjective in the south and is quite commonly employed in the everyday speach of southerers with no ill intent whatsoever. A southerner will not be insulted if a person of the north calls him a “rebel”… more likely the reaction would be one of pride. There is no one word “ polite equivalent” to “yankee”. A southerner would hardly call a yankee a “descendant if the Grand Army of the Republic”—more than a bit affected! 2600:1702:1700:1E40:A5DD:12B0:F0E7:9300 (talk) 18:51, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
Yankees as an American ethnic group
Yankees, are historically and modernly, an ethnic group native to the USA.
The descendants of Chicago's Yankee founders saw their population share shrink to less than 15 percent. That contrast between an immigrant city and its Yankee hinterland set into the kind of two-culture problem that has bedeviled American society ever since. To Yankee Americans, immigrant cultures have seemed to threaten...
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In 1820 most people of English descent constituted the largest European group in society. Yankee Americans respected their technical abilities and ambition. Most joined Methodist, Baptist, Presbyterian, Congregational or Episcopalian churches.
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Mostly, Yankee Americans have pressed "Anglo-conformity" on those who differ from themselves, but self-concious attempts to assert their unique group identity by blacks, Jews, native Americans, and many others have gained gradually more tolerance..
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That Italian have taken on so many of the surface aspects of American culture only tends to obscure the fact that in several respects they are still not middle class Yankee Americans.
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European American women whose families had been in the United States for generations-"Yankee Americans"- had earned the label "white," but foreign-born women of the fairest hair, eyes, and skin were not considered "white" unless compared to dark-skinned women of color... immigrants experienced cultural transition and class division to lay claim to the status of "white" Americans.
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Less than a century after Yankee Americans had swept into California in search of gold, displacing the Mexican families who had owned the valley's original sprawling ranchos, white Americans now owned most of the land.
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We need not dismiss out of hand the desire of Yankee Americans to maintain an ethnically and religiously homogeneous society, nor the particular Protestant commitments to individualism and freedom that were brought into play.
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In regards to the spread of Yankee American culture, famous poet Ruben Dario of Nicaraga wrote: Tomorrow we may all become Yankee Americans (indeed that is our most likely destiny).
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These citations all demonstrate the Yankee American ethnic group, i.e. English-speaking mostly protestant Americans. Aearthrise (talk) 20:22, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
Infobox addition
@Aearthrise:, you seem to have WP:BRD the wrong way around. Your recent addition of an infobox has been challenged by two editors, and it is now necessary to achieve consensus to include it. It is not necessary for those objecting to it to achieve consensus to remove your addition. I would ask you to please self-revert your latest reinsertion while discussion continues, as you are now one step away from a WP:3RR violation and I'd hate to see blocks meted out over this.
If the above section on "Yankees as an American ethnic group" is intended to contribute to this discussion, the point escapes me. CAVincent (talk) 21:46, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
- You obviously have not followed the discussion, as the reason Tpwissaa removed the infobox is that he didn't believe Yankee to be an ethnic group. He removed the Yankee ethnicity infobox without consensus, based on his belief.
- You, on the other hand, removed the infobox by claiming, without discussion or evidence, that you think it is "original research and not helpful". This is your belief based statement
- I have already posted evidence of Yankee being an ethnic group, with citations that describe its attributes, which is the evidence to keep the ethnic infobox
- Also, you claim that I am one step away from a WP:3RR violation; this is just an attempt to bully me into submission and silence this discussion. I suggest you read Wikipedia policies more closely and learn how to have a civil discussion. Aearthrise (talk) 01:40, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
- ^ Charles Madigan (2004). Global Chicago. University of Illinois Press. p. 103.
- ^ James S. Olson; Heather Olson Beal (2011). The Ethnic Dimension in American History. John Wiley & Sons. p. 38.
- ^ Charles Grinnell Cleaver (1976). Japanese and Americans: Cultural Parallels and Paradoxes. University of Minnesota Press. pp. 16, 17.
- ^ Francesco Cordasco; David Nelson Alloway (1981). American Ethnic Groups, the European Heritage: A Bibliography of Doctoral Dissertations Completed at American Universities. Scarecrow Press. p. 119.
- ^ Barbara Handy-Marchello (2005). Women of the Northern Plains: Gender and Settlement on the Homestead Frontier, 1870-1930. Minnesota Historical Society. p. 205.
- ^ Daniel James Brown (2022). Facing the Mountain: An Inspiring Story of Japanese American Patriots in World War II. Penguin. p. 68.
- ^ Aristide R. Zolberg (2006). A Nation by Design: Immigration Policy in the Fashioning of America. Harvard University Press. p. 520.
- ^ John A. Crow (2022). The Epic of Latin America, Fourth Edition. University of California Press. p. 693.