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Vlad's First Wife
Several sources I've seen online say Vlad's first wife's name was Anastasia Maria Holszanska (Cneajna Bathory), a niece of the Queen of Poland. 47.34.84.220 (talk) 04:39, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Requesting to revert the image used of Vlad the Impaler to the previous one. The current photo was made by someone who ClueBot NG had previously reverted their changes on account of vandalism. The user went back and made the changes again, and those changes have yet to be reverted. Change Line 7 and Line 275 to the revisions made on March 9, 2023 @ 10:36 by ClueBot NG. Rose Morgan 22 (talk) 04:43, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Too many Vlads! (minor edit request for clarity in lede )
In the second paragraph of the lede, there are two sentences that read (bolding for emphasis:
"He was the second son of Vlad Dracul, who became the ruler of Wallachia in 1436. Vlad and his younger brother, Radu, were held as hostages in the Ottoman Empire in 1442 to secure their father's loyalty."
Reading further, it's clear that the Vlad in the second sentence (Vlad and his younger brother) is Vlad III, not his father Vlad Dracul. However, because we just name Vlad Dracul and then make no differentiation, it's unclear at first which Vlad we're talking about. Can someone please change "Vlad and his younger brother" to "Vlad III and his younger brother", or otherwise make it clear?12.11.127.253 (talk) 17:09, 19 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Also, text should not be sandwiched between two images, there is no need for AD (WP:BCE) and a caption does not take a period unless it is a complete sentence (MOS:CAPFRAG). Aligning the map with the second paragraph also places it next to the pertinent text. Laszlo Panaflex (talk) 22:39, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi NeimWiki, that map is incorrect again. We had several discussions before regarding many wrong maps.
South Transylvania clearly was not part of Wallachia as it is your maps, 1390s, 1450s, 1460s. Where do you get this? Also I do not know what is the small yellow and red patches inside Hungary, what is the source for that patches?
Do you deny the international academic maps? Even on all academic Hungarian history maps that region is part of Hungary. We should follow academic maps not our fantasy painting. OrionNimrod (talk) 10:06, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @NeimWiki, It seems you have understanding problem what the medieval feudal fief means. If Romanian voivodes got Transylvanian fiefs in the 14th century from the Hungarian king it does not mean that region became part of Wallachia. The Hungarian king donated his land which belonged to the Hungarian crown = the Hungarian king was the overlord of those people who got properties from him = that land was still part of the Hungarian crown. But in 1464 Matthias Corvinus took it out of their hands and gave it to János Geréb, the later voivode of Transylvania. Which means, we can see again who was the overlord = the region was part of the Hungarian crown.
However it is interesting me, on your medieval maps only Hungary is feudal fragmented but Wallachia and Moldavia not. You want to show that Fogaras was the property of the Wallachian voivode, following your logic Wallachia should colored as Hungary because Hungary was the overlord of Wallachia (many times at that time).
Hi, NeimWiki, I see you want to show in any case that regions were Wallachian fiefs: It consisted of a form of property holding or other rights granted by an overlord to a vassal, who held it in fealty or "in fee" in return for a form of feudal allegiance, services, and/or payments. = that land was part of the Kingdom of Hungary, and it is a history falsification that you detach clearly that region from Hungary.
If English nobles had fiefs in the land of the French crown in France it does not mean that region was part of England, or if French nobles had fiefs on the land of English crown in England, it does not mean that region was part of France.
Also Hungary was not an Ottoman vassal at that time, it is also incorrect to show territories which was part of the Hungarian crown as Ottoman vassal by thick green line. Do you say the small circle patch (Almas) inside Hungary was an Ottoman vassal land in 1457???https:/upwiki/wikipedia/commons/archive/4/47/20230818194557%211457VOIVODATE.png
I suggested a solution, I draw a fast example, you need empasize the state borders, and you colorize fiefs inside Hungary, it would be good to add captions for better understanding, like the other example map the orange region is clearly marked as "fief by Mircea as Hungarian vassal" = fiefs on the Hungarian crown land.
Btw why only Hungary is feudal fragmented on your maps???
Not done for now: Please discuss that with the editor, ClueBot NG does make mistakes. The current image seems fine to me. Lightoil (talk) 07:48, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
