Thanks a lot, your information on the TDOT tables was extremely useful. I found all the information I was looking for. Great! Have a nice day, doxTxob \ talk21:59, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Pepper6181! Mileage table is done, thanks to your help, and I have added a few facts to the SR 19 article. I am not a road article expert, I have initiated one road article because it is related to another article I have contributed about Nutbush, Tennessee. Your SR 5 article is done very well and I would ask you three favours, if I may?
Overall appearance
Read the Tennessee State Route 19 article and check if it sounds funny, correct if it does sound odd.
Infobox data
Check the infobox for plausibility of data like start and end of the route as well as the junctions. I think I have figured it out, but the expert terms might have confused me. And I am not sure if it all is in the correct shape and order.
Route description
The SR 5 article has a route description with all the expert words in it, like "terminus", "signed portion", "overlaps", "secondary portions", and "designated primary", there is a "dual designation" of HWY 19 and I am not even exactly sure what that is. I do not think that HWY 19 is as complicated to describe as HWY 5 but expert formulations could help out a lot here. Would you be willing to write a route description for the HWY 19 article to help me out with the expert terms?
I apologize for that, I sometimes deal with TDOT at work and those terms are second nature to me. To further define Tennessee's state highway system will require a bit of history first. Prior to 1982, Tennessee had a single type of designation and signage for all state highways using the ubiquitous "upside down-triangle" sign, similar to what Mississippi used in the past. After 1982, they switched to a primary/secondary highway classification system. I've never seen anything in Tennessee Code Annotated that defines exactly what these are, however, drawing from TDOT contracts and other information that I've seen at the State Archives, a primary state highway tends to carry more traffic, is more suited for commercial truck travel, and tends to receive more funding. I don't have any place to reference this but I don't believe interstate truck traffic is allowed on secondary state highways.
If you ever go through any of TDOT's bridge inventory or some other materials on their website, you will see these terms which are not mentioned here at all:
FAP 300 (Federal Aid Primary State Route 300) or more commonly Primary State Route 300.
FAS 229 (Federal Aid Secondary State Route 229) or Secondary State Route 229.
NFA 3264 These are county-maintained highways and are never signed in the field
Back to S.R. 19, I believe I can help but its going to take some time to find reference-quality information on it. SR 19 is designated secondary from the Mississippi River all the way to Ripley and from Brownsville to its eastern terminus at I-40 Exit 60. Between Ripley and Brownsville, it is designated primary. I'll see what I can dig up on this route.
Hello Pepper, no need to apologize, I was not complaining. The extert terms are probably unavoidable for the topic. I am just not used to them. Your explanation made it more clear for me. That's what I like with Wikipedia, you learn something new with every topic you start. Thanks a lot! doxTxob \ talk20:31, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
, saving, and then editing the result, or by shamelessly stealing a layout from another state's WikiProject. Once it's set up I'll get TMF to update {{USRD}} to include it so that you can start getting assessment stats for Tennessee. —Scott5114↗[EXACT CHANGE ONLY]06:20, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much for your help with the table of intersections for Tennessee State Route 19. I have replaced it in the article, you have included intersections that I was not even aware of. If you find time, would you check the article about Tennessee State Route 180, too? The road is just 12 miles long with few intersections. There is a table already, but it could need an expert eye. I am attached to the area of Nutbush and SR 180 starts there. Not urgent, and thanks already! doxTxob \ talk08:31, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I took that from here >> List of state routes in Tennessee. SR 9 is hidden so I used US 25W as a guide which appears to be signed as a north-south route. My route log (1959) doesn't list cardinal directions and I haven't had any luck getting a new one from TDOT. If you find it to be inaccurate please change it...cheers Pepper6181 (talk) 00:52, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You probably didn't write it and I didn't have time to search, but do you have a ref for an on-ramp stub from Riverside to east I-40 in Memphis? I hid it for lack of a ref/ramp completed, but if there's a ref/picture somewhere, I'd vote to unhide it.Bodo920 (talk) 21:51, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That was there when I made my changes, I can verify that its there. If it will suffice, I'll take a picture of it on my next trip down there, I think its also visible from Microsoft Terraserver and Google Earth as well. Pepper6181 (talk) 19:11, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think this is the ramp it was talking about...as far as I know this is the only ghost ramp that still exists at Exit 1 on I-40. As of last month, it was still there. The only thing visible from I-40 are the jersey barriers that block the stub ramp. [1]. The road running under I-40 in the picture is Riverside Drive. In the past, there were ghost ramps on the north side of this interchange, but I believe they were destroyed when the Pyramid was built. I say keep it hidden, until something can be referenced. Pepper6181 (talk) 00:49, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Possible, but the wording indicated it was an on ramp from Riverside going east. I'm also not sure that its the one because the picture you linked was already on the list when the on ramp text was added. Like I said, possible, but I am not sure. On the other note, there should still be a stub on the north side of the intersection. It's on the Jackson Street on ramp going west. Let me know if it's still there.Bodo920 (talk) 06:57, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I was downtown last week, and I confirmed from the Pyramid parking lot that there still is a ghost ramp on the north side. This was the one I thought was torn down when the Pyramid was built...I was wrong Pepper6181 (talk) 23:58, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Cool. Good to know. Anything about the eastbound ramp? My guess is that it was under construction, but of course, I'm not sure.Bodo920 (talk) 16:35, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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