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Thank you for your edits and page moves on my user page! That was a good catch :-)

Cheers, --WikiLinuz {talk} 04:23, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Removing redirect in user talk namespace

Hello! I noticed you reverted this edit. Per WP:BLANK, you can do this.

Page blanking is acceptable in one's own userspace.

Please note that user namespace is not just limited to user pages but user talk too. Per Liz’ comment in her edit summary, talk pages can be blanked but not deleted. The rename log can be found in the history of my user talk page if that is your concern. I would appreciate if you would self-revert as I’ve already done so twice. FatalFit | ✉ | ✓  19:12, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also see Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines § Personal talk page cleanup:

User talk pages are almost never deleted, although a courtesy blanking may be requested.

Thanks, FatalFit | ✉ | ✓  19:20, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This is obviously not your personal talk page because you have renamed your account. As some ip told you, that page should just be left alone as a redirect. And I see no justice in its blanking. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 00:38, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It’s still me, and I don’t understand why I can’t courtesy blank it. It contains my full name and birthday, how is that not something that could even possibly cause harm to me? Thanks, FatalFit | ✉ | ✓  00:42, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Liz’ also mentioned that I can blank it, and I have provided you a guideline explaining why. It was also deleted on simplewiki under U1. FatalFit | ✉ | ✓  00:47, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
And Liz didn't say it's your talk page because it's a redirect created by user renaming. If that page really contains your personal information, you may ask for WP:RFO instead. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 00:53, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CS1 error on Sonya Hussyn

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User talk pages

Hello, NmWTfs85lXusaybq,

If an editor changes their username and doesn't want a redirect from their previous account to their new account, please do not insist on placing one on the page. There is no requirement that these redirects from old accounts to new accounts be present. I've seen at least two situations where you ignored the wishes of the editor and replaced a redirect that they had removed and I think your actions might be well-intentioned but are misguided.

Please respect the editor, if they don't want there to be a visible association between accounts, that's okay. All of the relevant information is there in the talk page history should anyone want to understand if the two accounts are linked, there doesn't need to be a redirect present. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 00:50, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Liz,
My concern is if you have noticed the misleading claims made by Vanisheduser3494, a former sockpuppet. They tried to blank the talkpage redirects with false claims, such as Wrong redirect - unrelated (Special:Diff/1161448537) or redirect fixed (Special:Diff/1159386702). In addition, they fabricated a non-extant deletion debate (Special:Diff/1146689216) instead of blanking the page themselves. Should it be considered as in good faith? NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 05:06, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I have the brain capacity of a 10 year old and I appreciate your efforts to fix my talk page mistakes. Sending love your way. Dawnbails (talk) 05:23, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of Tajdar E Harm Syed Hassan

The page Tajdar E Harm Syed Hassan has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done under section R2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it was a redirect from the article namespace to a different namespace except the Category, Template, Wikipedia, Help, or Portal namespaces.

Please do not recreate the material without addressing these concerns, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If you think this page should not have been deleted for this reason, you may contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you may open a discussion at Wikipedia:Deletion Review. Liz Read! Talk! 06:44, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Page mover granted

Hello, NmWTfs85lXusaybq. Your account has been granted the "extendedmover" user right, either following a request for it or demonstrating familiarity with working with article names and moving pages. You are now able to rename pages without leaving behind a redirect, move subpages when moving the parent page(s), and move category pages.

Please take a moment to review Wikipedia:Page mover for more information on this user right, especially the criteria for moving pages without leaving a redirect. Please remember to follow post-move cleanup procedures and make link corrections where necessary, including broken double-redirects when suppressredirect is used. This can be done using Special:WhatLinksHere. It is also very important that no one else be allowed to access your account, so you should consider taking a few moments to secure your password. As with all user rights, be aware that if abused, or used in controversial ways without consensus, your page mover status can be revoked.

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If you do not want the page mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! Primefac (talk) 11:34, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page at 2023 French riots history deleted

Could you please restore the significant talk page history that you accidentally deleted on 2023 French riots? If you need help, don't hesitate to ask at the Help Desk. I don't know how to help you, but someone there probably will. -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 01:03, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I moved it to Talk:2023 French riots (disambiguation). NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 01:04, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I hope you won't mind if I move it back to where it was written. This page has been moved three times now during the move discussion. It would be best if people were aware of the problems with the dab page. -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 01:12, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Those talk pages were swapped associated with the subject pages. Now, I have swapped them back. Sorry for the inconvenience. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 01:16, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, thanks for following up! I assume that you're aware that that move technically disrupted a move discussion that was in progress? Who knows, maybe the back door maneuvering since the move discussion was opened was all for the best, it's not impossible. I'm checking with Eggroll to see if I've really understood. It may be just a formality that became necessary... this is all quite confusing, apologies. :) -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 02:12, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
2023 French riots takes up the base name per WP:NOPRIMARY because it has no primary topic in the current form. Is there any discussion to determine the primary topic as Nahel Merzouk protests? If so, please correct the form per WP:ONEOTHER and move it back to 2023 French riots (disambiguation), no matter if 2023 French riots is a primary redirect. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 04:31, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reverts

Hello. Could you please explain to me why did you revert me on several occassions? I don't know what's the point of this [1]. There are other places called Storozheve so it shouldn't redirect to one of them, logically. I also don't know what the point of this is [2]. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 07:43, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

These terms have no ambiguity on English Wikipedia because articles associated with interlanguage links are not extant here. Please refer to WP:DABNOT as well. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 09:43, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There's more than one notable individual known as Ștefan Holban. Some readers might look for one and some might look for another. The disambiguation page was useful for that purpose and your edits now restrict the entity "Ștefan Holban" to one single individual. Prior to my edits there had been confussion regarding both individuals showing disambiguation and clear separation is necessary. See for example this [3] ("Ștefan Holban" used to be title for the general's article).
I also don't see anything in WP:PRIMARYRED nor in WP:DABNOT related to this. I do see that MOS:DABRED says red links can be included as long as they're linked in other non-disambiguation pages. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 11:27, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The point is you didn't include any linked articles except interlanguage links. For the format of such entities, you may refer to this citation, although there's still no consensus if they are acceptable. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 11:54, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure I've understood you. "Ștefan Holban" had two entities, one had a page in English Wikipedia and the other was an interlanguage link. Per that note you've linked it'd appear there is no consensus for removing entities with interlanguage links. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 12:48, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You still missed the point. It means there should always be a linked article which contains the red link no matter if you put an interlanguage link after it. For example:
NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 13:42, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I restored both and added some blue links. Are they appropriate now? Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 14:10, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Not really. The linked articles you added don't contains the red link in the entity. And please note that exactly one navigable article should be linked per MOS:DABONE. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 14:19, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry but you're not getting your point across effectively. With each time you name a new policy and convention you hadn't mentioned before. I am not experienced in this field of Wikipedia.
I added a link for Holban on the linked article and removed the link to Storozheve in the disamiguation page. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 20:17, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's OK now. You're free to recreate Novofedorivka (disambiguation) deleted as a G14 candidate before. But please make sure its format correct. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 00:26, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I've also restored a disambiguation page for Novodarivka (Novodarivka (disambiguation)). You might have been right in reverting my move of the town with an existing article as it is substantially more populated than the others from what I've seen. It probably is the primary topic.
Glad we sorted this out. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 13:55, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I have adjusted its format for the primary topic and added a linked article. It's now a WP:ONEOTHER article. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 14:02, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed, for both. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 15:22, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reverts

Good Day.

I added some highlights to the subject of USS Houston (SSN 713) regarding the novel, and her participation in the film "Hunt for Red October". I also mentioned that her hull number (documented in the Wikipedia article as SSN 713) and the City Of Houston's central area code 713 (common knowledge, not a "factoid").

Apparently you considered it a legitimate reason to declare my sources "Not reliable sources". That seems sort of arbitrary to me. Which of either of us can assert they are "unreliable" without specifying the reason, nor pointing out each assertion? Besides they came directly from Wikipedia. Did you also revert that article?

Your revert URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=USS_Houston_(SSN-713)&oldid=prev&diff=1164604410 Bd64kcmo (talk) 16:29, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently, you should have read WP:RSPRIMARY to learn that Wikipedia articles (and Wikipedia mirrors) in themselves are not reliable sources for any purpose. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 00:44, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Now, how in the hell are Wikipedians supposed to know about these obscure edicts? And how long have they been around? Well I did read it and it did say "Wikipedia articles *SHOULD* be based mainly on reliable secondary sources, i.e., a document or recording that relates to or discusses information originally presented elsewhere." (except as sources on themselves per WP:SELFSOURCE). So there's another set of Claymores to dig up before I do a small addition to an article. It seems to me Wikipedia has plenty of fact checkers to maximize the reliability of articles herein. Otherwise, I would consider a Wikipedian rule saying Wikipedia is not a reliable source as a self-indictment by Wikipedia ("don't trust me, although I'm Wikipedia, I'm probably lying or wrong"). I believe it damages Wikipedia to cut itself, and renders citations of Wikipedia sources OUTSIDE Wikipedia as "unreliable", by Wikipedia's own rules. The only other solution I would see is direct citing of references in such an article (if they can be found) by digging, through the Library of Congress if it take that, or something short of an archeological dig. But that would be a roundabout way of getting the same result, with links to the original references. Yet if we watch the movie credits roll you'll see Houston's involvement. Last time I referred to a movie, maybe 8 or 9 years ago, I got a shellacking from some expert saying IMDB is not "reliable" enough, but did not refer me to "WP:RSPRIMARY". Perhaps it didn't exist yet. Honestly, I don't see a standard of reliability here, just an obscure set of obfuscated rules that have a questionable reason to be there.
So what should we do? get the movie out and note the time stamp for the credits showing USS Houston? Get the book out and cite the page number showing Dallas and her Skipper Bart Mancuso? Dig up an old city directory with a map of area codes showing the commonly known fact "713" is the area code for the city of Houston? Sharing a few facts has become a chore and evidently has left a trail of frustrated contributors here who got their articles reverted.
I can't make any sense or good purpose of any of these rules. Just a discombobulated mess. Bd64kcmo (talk) 21:59, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry

Sorry! I apologise for my recent disruptive moves actually I wanted to see that changing my user pages name can change my username so, I request to remove my name from Administrator intervention against vandalism Mr Unknown233 (talk) 12:48, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You don't have to make such false statement of your purpose to me. I have learned that of farming extended confirmed from your edits on User:Mr Unknown233. Leave for other editors to decide if your editing behavior is disruptive. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 13:10, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
When will decision come ? Mr Unknown233 (talk) 13:14, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Wildstyle

Hi, thank you for your contributions. I urge you to discuss your objections to this merge at Talk:Graffiti. 162 etc. (talk) 14:18, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have no objection to this merge. However, I revert your edits because you just converted Wildstyle to a MISPLACED redirect without any mention of Wildstyle in Graffiti. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 14:34, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm struggling to find anything at Wildstyle that is supported by references to reliable secondary sources. Can you give me an example of what you think I should be adding to Graffiti? 162 etc. (talk) 16:43, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
To merge articles, you may follow the guideline on WP:PROMERGE step by step. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 23:18, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing in the article is sourced; therefore, it must all be deleted. See WP:PROVEIT. 162 etc. (talk) 07:08, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note that WP:PROMERGE asks us not to "just redirect the source page without copying any content if any good content from the source page exists." (emphasis mine.) 162 etc. (talk) 07:10, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In that case, you're suggested to obtain such a consensus from a deletion discussion per WP:ATD-R instead. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 07:59, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
AfD has been opened. 162 etc. (talk) 16:56, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Revert

Hello, Why have you reverted my changes to "Edinburgh Handedness Inventory" on 14th August? Yours, Exodriv Exodriv (talk) 11:33, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Because you provided material without sourcing and modification linked to non-extant templates and categories. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 12:56, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It is wrong to source the Google Scholar citation count which increases every day. Anyone can look it up. I could give a precise number today if you think that is better than the form of words I chose.
The category "Anatomy" did need modification: hand preference say for writing is behavior and little or nothing to do with the anatomy of the hand. I accept that "Physiology" was just the plausible guess that turns out to be mistaken. Exodriv (talk) 15:35, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Then I see no justification in adding such material per WP:RS. As to templates and categories, you may ask for a renaming if you do have a good reason. However, the modifications in the articles are not constructive. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 23:28, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A City of Ballarat article fork?

Hi NmWTfs85lXusaybq,

I'm not an Australian, so I may be mistaken in this, but it looks to me like we have two articles for the same "City of Ballarat" which should probably be merged, unless there might be some Australian logic of the two articles of which I am unaware. The two articles I see for the City of Ballarat (Australia) are, City of Ballarat and simply Ballarat.

I can't see why we need these two articles to be separate, and what exactly distinguishes the content of one article from the other. It seems to me that either the two articles should incorporate a definition of how they legitimately cover two distinct and different subjects in both their article titles, and in their lead paragraphs, or else they should be merged into the City of Ballarat article. What do you think about my observations on this possible "article fork"?

Thanks,

Lighthumormonger (talk) 16:12, 23 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Lighthumormonger,
I find no justification to merge these articles: Ballarat is a city (categorized in Cities in Victoria) and the council seat of the local government area City of Ballarat (categorized in Local government areas of Victoria). You may find more article pairs in such form from Local government areas of Victoria, such as City of Frankston and Frankston, City of Melton and Melton.
Thanks,
NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 02:46, 24 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Three localities in Bastak County, Iran, that are improperly entangled; advice kindly requested

I've been a frequent editor in pages related to administrative changes in Iran, but I've come across three pages I can't easily fix technically now that several things have been done before I had the chance to work on them. Perhaps you can help, or be in a position to pass this to someone who can assist in removing a stumbling block for which I lack the tools.

The event:

After the 2016 National Census, the village of Kukherd merged with the village of Harang and was renamed the city of Kukherdharang.

The correct solution would've been:

1) The Kukherd page would move to Kukherdharang (because renamed); the page would be edited to indicate the city's status as "formerly the village of Kukherd..." etc.; referenced with the proper government document; and edited to conform with its status as a city throughout the entire page.

2) The Harang page would not move; its status would now be as a "former village", and so the page would be edited and referenced to indicate its absorption during the merger.

The issue:

Unfortunately, none of that happened. Those three pages (Harang, Kukherd, and Kukherdharang) are entangled in a way I cannot easily undo.

1) Harang was moved to Kukherdharang, leaving behind a redirect from move. They aren't the same entity; the page shouldn't have been moved or redirected.

2) Kukherd was redirected to Kukherdharang, leaving behind a simple redirect. It should instead have been moved, because the entity itself was renamed.

As it stands now, both Harang and Kukherd redirect to Kukherdharang. After thinking about how this might be undone to result in a page for Harang (with all its history intact) and a page for Kukherdharang (with its history intact from the Kukherd page), I decided that I don't have the rights to be as bold as I might like and possibly break something.

The way to resolve this is:

1) Move Kukherdharang to Harang over the redirect (I'm unable to do that) 2) Edit the Harang page (Can do) 3) The redirect from move can be deleted, since the overall effect is simply to have restored the Harang page (I'm unable to do that) 4) Kukherd should not redirect to Kukherdharang but should be the original Kukherd page that can now moved to Kukherdharang where it belongs

I'm sorry to be long-winded about this issue that may seem trivial, but any advice or help you have would be appreciated. I can do the editing and have everything I need to get these articles back in shape after so much apparent vandalism and unnecessary ref bombing, etc., but they aren't in the right places. I basically need a Harang page and a Kukherd page with their intact histories and talk pages, and I can do the moving and editing from there.

Thanks for your time! Brightkingdom (talk) 20:15, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have completed the requested moves as you suggested. You may help to remove spams and update articles. Thanks. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 12:41, 8 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Eswiki block

Hi. ¿Is your eswiki block still affecting your membership of The Wikipedia Library? If so, let me tell you that I disagree with the sysop's resolution, and I think I can try to convince another sysop to unblock you, based on our common sense and ignore all rules policies, as your block is completely unnecessary and it doesn't help to reduce disruption, which is the purpose of the blocking feature, given that you declared that you wouldn't be active in eswiki.--SRuizR ¡Pure life! 23:26, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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