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Hyoyeon's Bio picture (from April 2017)

Seriously? Was that the best picture they could find of her? What about all her solo debut shots? Her outfit in Wannabe was slaying!

move to just Hyoyeon

given that the articles of idols such as leader bandmate Taeyeon and Shinee Taemin are just their first names, shouldn't Hyoyeon's too be Hyoyeon instead of her full name? just like the other two, she almost never goes as Kim Hyo-yeon Geoyui (talk) 07:47, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I support this move. As stated in the first sentence of the article, she's known in the entertainment industry as Hyoyeon or DJ Hyo. Solemn Penance (talk) 17:00, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree per WP:MONONYM in previous discussion. Evaders99 (talk) 03:20, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Oppose. WP:STAGENAME doesn't say anything about dropping off surnames. The guideline that covers this situation is WP:NCP: “Don't use a first name (even if unambiguous) for an article title if the last name is known and fairly often used." This guideline gives Oprah Winfrey as an example. The subject gets a surname in her band's KBS profile and in SeoulBeats, as well as on the fan site which came up first for me when I Googled "Hyoyeon". In both the English- and Korean-language versions of the Korean press, she is “Girl's Generation Hyo-yeon” (소녀시대 효연), or "SNSD's Hyoyeon". So the mononym is part of a trademarky gimmick that puts the name of the band constantly in the Korean media. Perhaps the nominator assumes that if the subject appeared in other contexts, she would drop off "Girls Generation" and use a mononym. But that's not necessarily the case. In film credits, band members may be given by full name, as you can see here. Kauffner (talk) 17:48, 22 March 2012 (UTC)"

explain why Taeyeon's and Taemin's articles are just their first names, but not Hyoyeon's, despite her, again, never going as her full name. furthermore, pages of the former two's names exist at Tae-yeon (name) and Tae-min (name), Hyoyeon's of which does not have a page

I suppose articles of Jimin and Jungkook of BTS also support our argument

The only reason someone like 2PM Ok Taec-yeon is written as his full name is because he does go by his full name when he's an actor Geoyui (talk) 22:30, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Considering that Taemin's article recently got moved on 25 November from Lee Tae-min to just Taemin, shouldn't Hyoyeon's, too? Oh yeah, and his talk page at Talk:Taemin (formerly Talk:Lee Tae-min) previously spoke about this at here in the section "Requested move 18 November 2022". If he got plenty of "Support" votes, then so should she. Geoyui (talk) 22:41, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

not to be rude, but does anyone keep in touch with the discussion, especially given someone like Taemin—who is one of her juniors—got his article moved at some point? it's been months already since the last comment (by me) Geoyui (talk) 02:48, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Geoyui Fyi, nobody would already follow this discussion, only page watchers would see it and even then they wouldn't really be bothered to chip in unless necessary hence why you see yourself replying to yourself. If you want the article to be moved, you can start a formal requested move discussion by following the instructions at WP:RMCM instead. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 05:51, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]