User talk:Bbb23
Loose end
Hi Bbb. I'm trying to detox from admin work right now, but tying off a few loose ends. Magnatyrannus (talk · contribs), who you and I conditionally unblocked a few months apart, has shifted to editing as TheLibyanGuy (talk · contribs). As I'm not currently an admin, it's not really my call whether that violates the 1-account restriction I imposed, but my peanut-gallery view would be that it complies with the letter, but not the spirit, and that the past account should be disclosed on the new userpage (currently it's only the other way around). If you're inclined to handle this differently, by all means; just figured this should be on someone's radar. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 04:36, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- I used to have WP:BN on my watchlist, but no more, although I'm not really sure why, so I wasn't aware that you had temporarily resigned. I'm sorry to hear you're having RL problems. I hope things go well for you. As for the new account created by Magnatyrannus, I agree with you that they need to disclose the M account on TLG account's userpage. Honestly, I don't understand why M just didn't request a rename, so much easier to track for everyone, but people do all sorts of things on Wikipedia that make no sense to me. Before I talk to the user, I'm going to ping the three other admins who were involved in the unblocking last November in case they have any thoughts: @DatGuy, Ponyo, and ScottishFinnishRadish:.--Bbb23 (talk) 11:48, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- Is this meant to be a clean start? If so, I'd hope they asked one of you for permission first as it is otherwise disallowed under Wikipedia:Clean start#Criteria and could be easily construed as an attempt to evade scrutiny.
- If there's another more reasonable reason, it should be made clear they were previously Magnatyrannus. A clearly visible sentence or userbox in their new userpage should be the minimum, possibly even a mention of their existing restrictions such as is on the User:Magnatyrannus. DatGuyTalkContribs 13:12, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Magnatyrannus and TheLibyanGuy: Like DatGuy, I too would like to know your reason for creating a new account.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:34, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- I decided to use a new account because I couldn't fully access the email for my old one, so I decided to create a new one on a different account. I was not trying to evade scrutiny or anything, or a new start. TheLibyanGuy (talk) 18:14, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- @TheLibyanGuy: Two things I don't understand. First, what do you mean by "fully access"? Second, if e-mail is that important to you, why did you not associate an e-mail address with the new account?--Bbb23 (talk) 18:18, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- 1. The old email was actually, in fact, a shared email, it was shared with my brother, and now that my brother owns it, I found it difficult to sign back into my old account, also, seeing as the password is now changed, I can no longer use my old account. I could only access the password of the Wikipedia account on my phone.
- 2. The current email address, the one I widely use is the one associated with my new account. TheLibyanGuy (talk) 18:38, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- Looks to me like you've gone ahead and created a userpage for TLG that addresses the admin concerns expressed here, so unless someone objects, you're good to go. I am kind of curious, though, why it is not possible to e-mail you using your new account ("Email this user" is not displayed on the left sidebar under Tools). Did you associate an e-mail address with the new account but then prevent other editors from e-mailing you? Not too many editors do that in my experience.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:43, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- @TheLibyanGuy: Two things I don't understand. First, what do you mean by "fully access"? Second, if e-mail is that important to you, why did you not associate an e-mail address with the new account?--Bbb23 (talk) 18:18, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- I decided to use a new account because I couldn't fully access the email for my old one, so I decided to create a new one on a different account. I was not trying to evade scrutiny or anything, or a new start. TheLibyanGuy (talk) 18:14, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Magnatyrannus and TheLibyanGuy: Like DatGuy, I too would like to know your reason for creating a new account.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:34, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- I agree. A user page notification, as well as their restrictions makes sense in this case. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:30, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
Please reconsider your warning
I don't understand why you gave me a warning. I clearly meant to say that the users' content is pro-Turkish biased. And I clearly did not mean to insult them in anyway. Mentioning that someone might be biased is now considered attacking them? That's taking a bit too far...don't you think? I apologize if my wording came out wrong. But what I meant to say is that the editor's content is pro-Turkish biased. CatmanBw (talk) 20:43, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- The warning stands. I came close to blocking you based on your post-warning comments at WP:ANI, which demonstrate at best a complete lack of understanding as to what constitutes a personal attack, compounded by a case of WP:IDHT. I'll make it simple for you: do not bring up what you think are another editor's motivations for their edits. Stick to commenting only on the merits of the content of the edit. If you can't do that, you risk being blocked.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:55, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- Okay. This is not explicitly mentioned in the rules, which might make it confusing to some. In Wikipedia:No personal attacks....it says: Note that it is not a personal attack to question an editor about their possible conflict of interest on a specific article or topic. CatmanBw (talk) 21:17, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- Please stop quoting that line over and over again. It pertains to other conflicts of interest, not nationalistic biases. If I were you, I would also stop posting any comments at ANI. You're not doing yourself any good at all.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:20, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- Why do I have to stop posting? Because some people disagree with me means that I have to shut my mouth and move on? Are we not allowed to have a discussion anymore either? CatmanBw (talk) 21:24, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- Please stop quoting that line over and over again. It pertains to other conflicts of interest, not nationalistic biases. If I were you, I would also stop posting any comments at ANI. You're not doing yourself any good at all.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:20, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- Okay. This is not explicitly mentioned in the rules, which might make it confusing to some. In Wikipedia:No personal attacks....it says: Note that it is not a personal attack to question an editor about their possible conflict of interest on a specific article or topic. CatmanBw (talk) 21:17, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
I'm not sure if you can help with this?
I might be completely wrong on this, but have you (or any tps) seen this draft before? Draft:Smile Kids Jr. with TeenNick (TV Series). I'm sure this has been created a number of times fairly recently? I've no idea how to find that info. Thanks, Knitsey (talk) 22:17, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) This is WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Jeremiah Caquias. Blocked and deleted. Spicy (talk) 22:44, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Spicy: thank you. I nearly deleted my message as I thought I had misremembered. At least I'm not going mad. Knitsey (talk) 22:48, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
Global lock request
Hi, I'm writing as a follow-up to a previous report on sockpuppetry. There, you've requested a global lock for Sirgûcî due to evident cross-wiki abuse. Apparently, KelêÛxelfetî's block was temporary on the Kurdish Wikipedia, so is it possible to request a global lock outside a formal report? Aintabli (talk) 19:16, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, but you'd have to go to Meta to do it. When I do it at SPI, there is a script that does it for me. I agree that that account should be globally locked, no different from any of the other socks in that case.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:22, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- Many thanks for your response. I wasn't really sure about the procedure, since I did not spend much time there.
I actually tried reporting through Meta just now. I set TwinkleGlobal (or I think I did), if that would help, and it never finished processing. When I checked the relevant page, it appears I can't edit it. I am not sure if you have to earn a specific privilege to edit that page.I don't know how I missed the notice, but the page is semi-protected indefinitely, so that's why I can't edit. Aintabli (talk) 22:47, 26 September 2023 (UTC)- (edit conflict) The page is semi-protected, and you haven't made enough edits to be autoconfirmed on Meta. Perhaps Wim b, the steward who glocked Sirgûcî (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), would glock the other account without a formal request at Meta, assuming he gets this ping (he's not around much on en.wiki).--Bbb23 (talk) 22:58, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- Many thanks for your response. I wasn't really sure about the procedure, since I did not spend much time there.
- What is the name of the second user? because KelêÛxelfetî is not a global user and it doesn't even exist in ku.wiki, it's just a redirect. Is it Baran Agir? Wim b 12:58, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- sorry: ping @Aintabli Wim b 12:59, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Wim b Yes, they just recently renamed their account. It's now "Baran Agir". Aintabli (talk) 13:02, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- Yesterday, actually.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:03, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Wim b Yes, they just recently renamed their account. It's now "Baran Agir". Aintabli (talk) 13:02, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- sorry: ping @Aintabli Wim b 12:59, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
An IP blocked on Commons Wikipedia blocked User.
@Bbb23;
This edit here: https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Timeline_of_the_Joe_Biden_presidency_(2023_Q3)&diff=prev&oldid=1176819678
by this IP here: Special:Contributions/219.78.190.55
WHOIS here: https://whois-referral.toolforge.org/gateway.py?lookup=true&ip=219.78.190.55
Global contributions here: https://guc.toolforge.org/?by=date&user=219.78.190.55
On Commons is blocked here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:219.78.190.55
- This photo uploaded on 22 September 2023 (below) was added by the top diff edit link.
- The replacement photo (above)- replaced this photo (below) is currently subject of a Deletion Request (DR) by the uploader here:
I noted your block here: https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:A1Cafel
Can you review this please? Thank you, -- Ooligan (talk) 06:09, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
- I assume you want me to block the IP as evading A1Cafel's block. The single IP hasn't made very many edits, the last one of which was a couple of days ago. Instead, I blocked Special:contributions/219.78.190.0/23 for 3 months, which I'd blocked back in 2016 for the same period. The range has been much more active over a longer period of time. I think that will be more effective for a while anyway.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:50, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Bbb23. Thanks you for your review and action. Should I notify the Commons CU about this? -- Ooligan (talk) 22:59, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
- It looks like the /16 range is already blocked on Commons. BTW, you don't have to ping me on my Talk page.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:07, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry about the ping. Thank you again for your time. -- Ooligan (talk) 23:35, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
- It looks like the /16 range is already blocked on Commons. BTW, you don't have to ping me on my Talk page.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:07, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Bbb23. Thanks you for your review and action. Should I notify the Commons CU about this? -- Ooligan (talk) 22:59, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
SPI
Re Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Unserefahne: the IP is part of a /32 that’s only pblocked from my talk page — which won’t prevent it socking in mainspace. (Apologies if I’m misunderstanding anything here.)
Best, user:A smart kittenmeow 13:58, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
- No, it's I who misread the block. I thought the IP range was pblocked from editing the university article. That said, the IP's made only one edit, and the university article has now been semi-protected, so there's nothing to do unless the IP resumes disruption somewhere else.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:01, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, if there's more useful semis please do let me know, but I felt a semi on the university article was more effective than whack-a-mole on IPv6! Courcelles (talk) 14:03, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Courcelles Yeah, thinking about it I might just go to RFPP instead of SPI if I notice anything more like this (if you think that’s best). I originally thought SPI was best as it would be the ‘official’ place, but you’re right about the fact that it’s like IPv6 whackamole. Best, user:A smart kittenmeow 14:13, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, if there's more useful semis please do let me know, but I felt a semi on the university article was more effective than whack-a-mole on IPv6! Courcelles (talk) 14:03, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
Delete edit summary
Hi, thanks for the block of Rajasahab7777. Would you mind deleting the edit summary of the edit that vandalized my user page? Apparently it translates to an insult. Thanks. Uhai (talk) 16:42, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
- Done --Bbb23 (talk) 17:00, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
Deletion of my Draft Draft:Sileather
Hello Sir, You deleted my draft. I was waiting for Wikipedia validation to move my draft to the main space. Please can you get it back to me so I can improve it? RoseSophie555 (talk) 17:50, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
- The draft was tagged and deleted per WP:G11.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:20, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
Sahaja
Could you take a look at B9Joker108? The username reminds me of User:B9 hummingbird hovering, who was blocked long ago, but had the same topic-range. This new account is spamming several pages with undue info + quotes from The Twilight Language of the Vaishnavas: Esoteric Etymology and Symbolism in the Sri Vaishnava Tradition, a book I can't trace at the web. Regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 01:29, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
Question about your change to Ptolemy's map of Ireland
Please see Talk:Ptolemy's map of Ireland#Changes undone by Bbb23 and give your opinion. Thanks. The wisest fool in Christendom (talk) 01:51, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
AN/I
Hello. This thread, which you removed, has been re-worded and reposted here by a new user, who is almost certainly a sockpuppet of Vizorblaze. Could you please address it? Also pinging @Firefangledfeathers because they are familiar with the situation. Thanks. Philomathes2357 (talk) 03:16, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- Working on a SPI filing now. This stuff is so lame. Sorry this keeps happening to you. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:22, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. It was pretty upsetting at first but it's become routine. Flattering, in a way. Dude spends more time thinking about me than most of my IRL friends. Pretty sure the sock master will be uncovered soon. Philomathes2357 (talk) 03:57, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- The same thing that was happening with the IP is happening with UsernameUnderDuress. All those admins and none blocks the user. I've indeffed them. I've reverted their edits to the SPI and I've deleted their sandbox per WP:G10.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:32, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks Bbb23. I've already pushed the bounds of my involvedness in this matter, so I've been hesitant to take direct admin action. I understand that this leaves more work for others, and I'm grateful to you for picking up the slack. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 13:38, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- No problem, TBH, I didn't even know you were involved. I've been kind of on the periphery of all this, acting more like a hatchet man than anything else. :-) Are you still going to take care of filing a report at SPI? That would be helpful.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:42, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- It's already filed. It's the one you reverted UUD at. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 13:50, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- Stupid me. I kept looking at the archive rather than the open report. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:53, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- It's already filed. It's the one you reverted UUD at. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 13:50, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- No problem, TBH, I didn't even know you were involved. I've been kind of on the periphery of all this, acting more like a hatchet man than anything else. :-) Are you still going to take care of filing a report at SPI? That would be helpful.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:42, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks Bbb23. I've already pushed the bounds of my involvedness in this matter, so I've been hesitant to take direct admin action. I understand that this leaves more work for others, and I'm grateful to you for picking up the slack. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 13:38, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- The same thing that was happening with the IP is happening with UsernameUnderDuress. All those admins and none blocks the user. I've indeffed them. I've reverted their edits to the SPI and I've deleted their sandbox per WP:G10.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:32, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. It was pretty upsetting at first but it's become routine. Flattering, in a way. Dude spends more time thinking about me than most of my IRL friends. Pretty sure the sock master will be uncovered soon. Philomathes2357 (talk) 03:57, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
User:Vivek_GYAN_7.0
A user you blocked in December 2021 is spamming their userpage with more promotional stuff. What do you think about removing TPA? —asparagusus (interaction) sprouts! 13:17, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- Done --Bbb23 (talk) 13:24, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
22:20, 29 September 2023 deleted page User:Fccarner/sandbox (U5: Misuse of Wikipedia as a blog)
I understand the housekeeping. I must have taken too long to draft a replacement for the "Pulaski Heights (Little Rock)" article. Help Pages recommended performing complete re-write using User Sandbox.
I think by your deleting my sandbox edits, I lost content. I'll recreate it off platform but I am worried about re-submitting via Sandbox again since the content is going to be near identical to that which was mistaked as blog content. Please advise or direct to resources that will guide me. Fccarner (talk) 22:35, 29 September 2023 (UTC)