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South Africa qualified / not qualified

According to the tie-breakers, " in the case of a tie between three or more Teams at the end of the pool phase, once the highest ranked Team has been determined following the above criteria, to determine the next higher ranked Team the process would repeat, starting at the first criterion." To me this reads that if Scotland beats Ireland by 21+ with one bonus to each, yielding a 3-way on 15 points, then Scotland will win the pool with a +118 difference, and then Ireland will be #2 based on winning their match against South Africa. I think that rule is very bad - for one thing, it doesn't make sense; for another, if Ireland finds themselves down by 19 points, it would then behoove them to let Scotland score again - but it is the rule as currently written. As such, I don't think we can give RSA their Q just yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.126.230.67 (talk) 21:04, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Romania eliminated / not eliminated

Seems to be some confusion around the tie-breaking rules and whether Romania are definitely eliminated yet. I thought they could still go through per a BBC article which stated that "Tonga and Romania could still qualify by winning their final two games with bonus points, but are relying on Scotland and South Africa also finishing the pool on 10 points and then having a best points difference of the second-placed trio." but as Larryone (talk · contribs) has pointed out, they are wrong. Tournament rules say that the first criteria for breaking a tie is that "The winner of the Match in which the two tied Teams have played each other shall be the higher ranked." and that "For clarification, in the case of a tie between three or more Teams at the end of the pool phase, once the highest ranked Team has been determined following the above criteria, to determine the next higher ranked Team the process would repeat, starting at criterion 1.". South Africa already hold wins over both Scotland and Romania so will win any 3-way tie there (although not necessarily in a South Africa / Scotland / Tonga tie). Probably all academic after tomorrow anyway! Bcp67 (talk) 09:50, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]