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Are some parts of the Empire State Building actually clad in sandstone from Wirral, UK?

Was Storeton Sandstone from the Wirral, UK used for some small parts of the Empire State building or is this an urban myth? The Higher Bebington White Freestone Quarry - which closed in 1959 - was the last producer of this fine quality lighter sandstone. This highly regarded stone from the Storeton area had been quarried since the Roman period. Sources state the outside of the Empire State building was clad in Indiana Limestone (which makes commercial sense because it's cheaper to transport overland by rail the majority of building materials than transshipping it across continents), without mention of any Cheshire stone being used (or was the amount so small sources ignore this because it was negligible amount?).

Doing a search for details behind this fact shows it is repeated many times, however, what is never revealed (aside from it being said to have been used) is where it was actually put? Or how much was ordered? I like to think this is true but there is no hard evidence aside from saying it was used, which is frustrating. Are there any Empire State manifests that could show the ordering details for the building's construction? 146.200.202.126 (talk) 10:25, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

re 'Elevators'

" ... mechanically operated ... "? Aren't all elevators in bldgs? Should the wordage be 'manually operated'? 149.20.203.67 (talk) 22:10, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Building ranking lists don't make sense

The entry currently says "seventh-tallest building in New York City, the ninth-tallest completed skyscraper in the United States, the 54th-tallest in the world, and the sixth-tallest freestanding structure in the Americas." There is no way this can be the 6th-tallest freestanding structure in all the Americas if it also only the 7th-tallest in just NY and the ninth-tallest in the US. All skyscrapers are freestanding structures SFAIK. I think this just means that the freestanding structure list has quite a lot of new skyscrapers missing from it. Maybe the best thing to do is just remove that mention, although of course one could spend a lot of time updating and merging the lists so that they actually make sense, then update the entry with the correct ranking. Wookey (talk) 23:33, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I was wondering about this too, but apparently it seems to be correct. The spire is the 6th-tallest in the Americas at 1,454 feet, which would beat even NYC's third-tallest building, 111 West 57th Street. But the roof, which is only 1,250 feet high, is shorter than six other structures in NYC.

I do doubt the methodology that's being used here, though, because 1 WTC's spire is being counted in the List of tallest buildings in New York City, but the Empire State Building's spire isn't. As a result, the comparison might be a bit flawed, and I agree that we should probably remove the mention of freestanding structures. – Epicgenius (talk) 23:47, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Can someone add, under the light show section, about the controversy about showing Eagles colors after their win the AFC champsionshop? Source: https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/empire-state-building-lights-eagles-green-colors-fans-reaction-new-york-super-bowl 98.113.8.17 (talk) 20:30, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: not a significant event over the building's long-term history. $ɱ$ (talk) 20:45, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Really? It seemed to have received a substantial media blowup, and it seems appropriate. (I’d add it to the NFL playoff article expect they don’t seem to have an “aftermath” section. --98.113.8.17 (talk) 20:55, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. This is so stupid. Who cares? A one-night color change in support of the wrong team in a sports game. So?

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(talk) 21:00, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:25, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]