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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 30 August 2023
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Please change the end of the "History" section to add the following section, taken verbatim from the extended-confirmed-protected Republic of Artsakh article:
Blockade (2022–present)
In December 2022, Azerbaijanis claiming to be environmental activists blocked the Lachin corridor, the sole road connecting Nagorno-Karabakh to Armenia and the outside world.[1] On 23 April 2023, Azerbaijani forces installed a checkpoint on the Lachin corridor.[2] The blockade has led to a humanitarian crisis for the population in Artsakh; imports of essential goods have been blocked, as well as humanitarian convoys of the Red Cross and the Russian peacekeepers, trapping the 120,000 residents of the region.[3][4][5][6][7] Limited traffic had been conducted by Russian peacekeepers and the International Committee of the Red Cross to transport patients in need of medical care and provide humanitarian supplies.[8][9] However, since 15 June 2023, Azerbaijan has intensified the blockade, blocking all passage of food, fuel, and medicine from the Red Cross and the Russian peacekeepers through the Lachin corridor.[10][11][12] JM2023 (talk) 16:33, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
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- ^ "Азербайджанские "активисты" блокируют дорогу из Карабаха в Армению. Одновременно в Карабахе пропал газ" [Azerbaijani "activists" are blocking the road from Karabakh to Armenia. At the same time, gas disappeared in Karabakh]. BBC News Русская Служба (in Russian).
- ^ Loe, Catherine (2023-04-27). "Azerbaijan sets up checkpoints on the Lachin corridor". Economist Intelligence Unit. Retrieved 2023-05-03.
The move [installation of a checkpoint] has increased the blockade of Nagorny Karabakh...A checkpoint on the border would give Azerbaijan the ability to stop any cars travelling between Armenia and Nagorny Karabakh.
- ^ Hauer, Neil (2023-07-31). "Karabakh blockade reaches critical point as food supplies run low". www.intellinews.com. Retrieved 2023-08-01.
Occasional ICRC and Russian traffic continued to pass until June 15, at which point Azerbaijan halted all humanitarian deliveries. No food, medicine or fuel has entered Nagorno-Karabakh since.
- ^ Gavin, Gabriel (Dec 19, 2022). "Supplies begin to run low as Nagorno-Karabakh blockade continues". eurasianet.org. Retrieved 2022-12-22.
- ^ Kitachayev, Bashir (16 December 2022). "Azerbaijani roadblock cuts tens of thousands off from food, fuel and medicine". openDemocracy. Retrieved 21 December 2022.
- ^ "New Troubles in Nagorno-Karabakh: Understanding the Lachin Corridor Crisis". www.crisisgroup.org. 2023-05-22. Retrieved 2023-05-23.
While travellers were already few due to the blockade, the ICRC reports that its ability to get people across has been curtailed [since the installation of the checkpoint], leaving only the Russian peacekeepers to facilitate trips to Armenia for medical care.
- ^ "June Alerts and May Trends 2023". www.crisisgroup.org. 2023-05-31. Retrieved 2023-06-19.
Checkpoint on Lachin corridor faced fierce opposition amid humanitarian crisis....Azerbaijani military consolidated [the] blockade, however, leading to even fewer crossings and reduced transportation of goods.
- ^ Shahverdyan, Lilit (12 January 2023). "Blackouts and food rationing as Karabakh blockade enters second month". Eurasianet. Retrieved 17 January 2023.
But the supplies are meager compared to the pre-blockade delivery of 12,000 tons of goods monthly, and barely meet the needs of the local population, which Armenian sources estimate at around 120,000.
- ^ "Nagorno-Karabakh reports gas cut for second time since start of blockade". OC Media. 17 January 2023. Retrieved 18 January 2023.
- ^ "Nagorno-Karabakh again faces shortages as Azerbaijan closes Lachin Corridor". OC Media. 2023-06-20. Retrieved 2023-07-14.
- ^ "Food shortages and fear as peacekeepers refused entry to Nagorno-Karabakh". OC Media. Retrieved 2023-07-14.
- ^ "Karabakh blockade reaches critical point as food supplies run low". www.intellinews.com. 2023-07-31. Retrieved 2023-08-01.
"also referred to as Artsakh by Armenians"
I removed this. It was added in early 2023. It's not even an English usage. Beshogur (talk) 16:45, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
editing
this article needs editing for grammar. Some of the sentences are far too long, with so many diversions and side tracks that they are unreadable. 142.163.195.205 (talk) 02:39, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
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Change the misspelling of “betweeen” to “between” in the first paragraph 2601:19C:4380:52B0:48FF:8D02:6906:976A (talk) 22:59, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
- Done ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 02:22, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
- whoops, that seems like my bad. Sorry! Remsense (talk) 03:41, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
Disputed status of Nagorno-Karabakh
I want to raise a question on the status of the territory. Why is Nagorno-Karabakh still considered a disputed territory?
1. The UN recognizes it as a sovereign part of Azerbaijan
2. Armenia officially recognizes it as a sovereign part of Azerbaijan
3. The separatist government of the Republic of Artsakh dissolved itself by the official decree
4. There is no de-facto presence of the separatist government in the region and the central government of Azerbaijan controls the entire territory since the end of September 2023.
Isn't it the right time to adjust the wording of the article accordingly? KHE'O (talk) 20:56, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- The government of the RoA has not technically dissolved itself yet, it declared that it would dissolve by Jan 1 2024. It's not known yet exactly how many Armenians are left in NK (last credible report stated 50-1,000 but that's probably different now). It may be time to update the status though, I agree. Sawyer-mcdonell (talk) 21:03, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- Point of order but do we know that Armenia recognizes it as part of Azerbaijan? They have no formal relations, so absent an affirmative statement, we can't assume they recognize anything about Azerbaijan. --Golbez (talk) 21:24, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- This is also true. They've never formally recognized the Artsakh government, but de facto they have for a long time (given how much military aid they've provided, the blurring of lines between governments via politicians holding office in both governments, etc). I think we need to wait for more verified information before definitively changing the status to avoid WP:OR. Sawyer-mcdonell (talk) 21:28, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, not recognizing Artsakh over the area is not the same as recognizing Azerbaijan over the area. --Golbez (talk) 22:21, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- This is also true. They've never formally recognized the Artsakh government, but de facto they have for a long time (given how much military aid they've provided, the blurring of lines between governments via politicians holding office in both governments, etc). I think we need to wait for more verified information before definitively changing the status to avoid WP:OR. Sawyer-mcdonell (talk) 21:28, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- Reliable sources still describe it as disputed. TagaworShah (talk) 21:35, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
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