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This article was nominated for deletion. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination:

keep, 9 January 2013 (UTC), see discussion.
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Caitlin Dewey (5 November 2015). "The most fascinating Wikipedia articles you haven't read". Washington Post. Retrieved 10 November 2015. Wikipedia's 'List of sexually active popes' is both useful and frivolous, impressive and incomplete. ... But I'm really into the entry's talk page. Since its creation more than a decade ago, this particular list has been argued over, corrected, and expanded with vigor. One user went after some pretty egregious errors when it comes to Catholic terminology.

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Naaman Zhou (18 April 2022). "Wikipedia, in the Flesh". New Yorker. Retrieved 28 April 2022. They discussed a game in which audience members guess which article is longer: 'List of fictional worms' or 'List of sexually active popes.' The answer was worms. Kavner suggested offering bonus points to anyone who could name a fictional worm or a sexually active pope.

Clerical celibacy is not a doctrine!

The article states "According to the doctrines of the Catholic Church, the pope (along with other clergy) is expected to be celibate, and is expected to be chaste as well." This is factually incorrect because clerical celibacy is not a doctrine. It is a discipline, imposed on priests of the Latin Rite, and some *BUT NOT ALL* of the Eastern Catholic Churches. In some of the Eastern Churches, married men may be ordained to the priesthood. (But, a single man, once ordained, cannot marry afterward.)

(EDIT -- I just made a correction to above noted sentence in the article, 19 Apr 2005, 18:02 EDIT)

Also it should be noted that for a single person, chastity and celibacy are the same thing. But for a married person, chastity is faithfulness to one's spouse, and responsible use of the gift of sexuality. WhFastus

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On April 27, this article was nominated for deletion. The discussion can be found at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/List of sexually active popes. The result was keep. —Xezbeth 09:31, May 7, 2005 (UTC)

Liber Gomorrhianus/Pope Benedict IX

Does Liber Gomorrhianus actually accuse Pope Benedict IX of sodomy, bestiality and orgies? I can't find a source outside of Wikipedia that makes that claim, and the only source given in this article is Liber Gomorrhianus, which appears to only be available in Latin. So who here can confirm that Liber Gomorrhianus actually says this? --PluniaZ (talk) 00:07, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

https://archive.org/details/bookofgomorrahel0000pete Here’s a translation. It does not seem to contain those accusations, as far as I can see. Perennialpoet (talk) 13:14, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pope Boniface VIII

Should there be note about Pope Boniface VIII? Victor Grigas (talk) 17:36, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Rejected allegations

Someone has gone through this article and added footnotes sporadically where they believe that "modern historians" have rejected claims of sexual activity. This won't do. By all means state which "modern historians" have challenged the view and why as part of the section discussing each of the claims. But without having a source that says specifically "modern historians have generally rejected this claim about pope x" then we are reinforcing bias. I accept some editors get uncomfortable with this topic but let's try and be as objective as we can shall we.Contaldo80 (talk) 00:31, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]