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Bloated residents list

OK. The time has come, the walrus said, to talk of many things. But the thing right now is the awful bloated "residents" list. There are hundreds of people on the list, and almost NONE are referenced. Things that NEED to be done are:

  • Split off the list into a seperate "people from Raleigh, NC" article
  • Retain a small list of the 10-20 MOST influential/famous/important Raleigh natives/residents here
  • Insure that every item on the list in this article is referenced to a reliable source.

Any ideas? --Jayron32 03:52, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The former section on "Raleigh Specific Publications" unfairly limited this article, as it excluded publications without offices in Raleigh but nonetheless cover Raleigh events and news and distribute there, such as Q-Notes an LGBT newspaper and the alternative weekly Independent Weekly. I've changed it to "Print Publications" and included the two papers mentioned above. --User:Matthillnc 17:17, 9 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't buy this argument. If you include every print media that covers events in Raleigh then you have to include papers in Greensboro, Fayetteville, Chapel Hill, Pittsboro, etc. Digitalican (talk) 19:01, 9 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
QNotes is the only LGBT print news medium covering LGBT news and events in Raleigh. Buy the argument. Matt (talk) 20:57, 9 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Simply, I don't care what it covers, it's not a local paper (Do you have a local bureau? No. I didn't think so.) There are many special purpose periodicals that cover events in Raleigh. That, in itself, is not sufficient to call them a local paper. And...I'll say it simply -- since you're the editor of Q-Notes this smacks of advertising and egregious self-promotion. Digitalican (talk) 00:35, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'm adding back the Independent Weekly. It does more than just "cover events" in Raleigh. It actively writes about issues relevant to Raleigh. Also, they do have a Raleigh office listed on their web site. wfaulk (talk) 19:55, 11 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Demographics

Shouldn't there be a section about the demographics with religious beliefs, race, etc. on the Raleigh page? Just wondering. Nctennishco12 (talk) 19:20, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Anyone have a source on racial/economic/religious/etc demographics for Raleigh? --Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 13:23, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of 2nd climate graph

I removed the small climate graph on the left side because: (1) It really had no information which wasn't already in the more colorful, easier to read graph. (2) It enabled the picture to be enlarged improving the aesthetics of the article. I also plan on working on the monstrosity which is the history section. If anyone has objections... let me know on my talk page... VictorianMutant (talk) 04:26, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Just some minor edits for clarity...

Hey all. I did some very minor editing on the page this morning, mainly for clarity and appearance. I'm not a WIKI edit king/guru or anything, just hate seeing sentence fragments and grammatical errors. I didn't want to be considered a "vandal" and banned from the page for making a few logical grammatical/spelling edits.

First, under the shopping section, I just edited a typo (choices, instead of "chooses." Second, I edited a sentence about the recent tornado to make it read slightly better...just a slight grammatical error was changed/corrected. Third, there was missing info/fragmented info about the RBC tower. It was all over the place (missing info, TOO much info that was also fragmented). Maybe someone was in the process of editing and wasn't finished? Either way, I really don't think the firm that created the building and something regarding a slight .8 degree incline of the land that the building sits on was relevant. I just capped it at 34 floors. I didn't touch the meter/feet info.

Just a few thoughts....

I was born in this city. I've lived here for 38 of my 42 years (college years spent in another city). I've NEVER heard any section of town called UPTOWN. That's a term for Charlotte's downtown that only people from Charlotte use...why, I don't know...it's just a downtown like any other city (with some very tall buildings). For some reason, there is an UPTOWN section in the article about Raleigh areas/quadrants/neighborhoods. In the article section, it even states that this term is not used. So why even mention it at all? And I can tell you for a fact that the intersection of Glenwood and Creedmoor is certainly NOT in North Raleigh; it's barely outside the inner beltline and considered part of West Raleigh. The northern reaches of Creedmoor Road and environs (Leesville Rd., North Hills Drive, Leadmine Rd.) ARE considered North Raleigh. Intersection of Creedmoor and Glenwood?...NOT. Even the Midtown designation is just a marketing scheme (which you've correctly noted) used mainly by the newspaper and local developers within the last few years...hardly anyone calls "Midtown" Midtown...it's just...Crabtree Valley...or North Hills...or Millbrook. Natives such as myself, laugh at these silly titles. These designations for city areas are a recent thing and only reflects the marketing intentions of certain developers and the newspapers that take advertising dollars from them. (It's also copying Charlotte's rather vain city area designation scheme...)

In short, why not just merge "Midtown" and the mythic, un-used "Uptown?"

Enough said...THAT said, please don't scream at me. I'm just offering suggestions and trying to make my hometown's wiki page logical and correct...and the best it can be.

Thanks.

Forgot...it's June 27, 2011. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.211.198.192 (talk) 10:17, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's RAH-lee, NOT RAW-lee

I was born and raised here. I've lived here my entire life. It's not pronounced RAW-lee, it's RAH-lee, or ROLLY...rhymes with TROLLY. Or the name POLLY. The dog breed, COLLIE. Or FOLLY.

Actual natives and long-time residents pronounce it correctly as RAH-lee. Some transplants from Northern states/cities may phonetically pronounce it RAW-lee, or more accurately, RUA-lee. Some older residents with thicker Southern accents may pronounce it RAW-leh. But it's never been pronounced by most natives as anything other than RAH-lee.

So yeah, I changed the pronunciation section to reflect the correct pronunciation.

Sorry to sound snarky but editors really should consult with or take the advice of the people who are actually from the cities they are writing about on Wikipedia.

Thanks.

June 28, 2011 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.211.198.192 (talk) 17:45, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I, too, have been concerned about the IPA and respelling. I've been trying to find a good reliable source for RAH-lee. Does anyone have access to the source cited? If so, please check that it really applies to the City of Raleigh. Other Raleighs may actually be pronounced RAW-lee. But I've only known of it as RAH-lee as well. Can someone check that source and/or find another one? Thank you. -- JoannaSerah (talk) 05:14, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Of course, the distinction presumes one pronounces "raw" and "rah" differently. Many English speakers do not, which is why IPA exists. --Jayron32 05:23, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That is true. :) I guess I should have written out my question in IPA instead. lol. I know that it may just be regional variations in how things are pronounced. Two people looking at RAH could say that differently, I suppose. I agree that the respelling should match the IPA, but really think that it detracts from the article to have /ˈrɔːli/ but not /ˈrɑːli/. And, really, I know that the point is somewhat moot until someone can find a reliable source for /ˈrɑːli/. Thank you. -- JoannaSerah (talk) 05:52, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Of course, according to this map, the local dialect of english DOES make the distinction, so it is important that we get it right. I am just not fully convinced that the vowel is really ɑː; especially because my native dialect does merge the sound, I have a hard time making the distinction myself. But the point is, we have a reliable reference for ɔː, and until we have a reliable reference otherwise, we need to avoid the "because I know so" argument for making the change. --Jayron32 18:44, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Population number is impossible?

I see that the populations issue has been raised several times, but the numbers in the article are still strange. I was in the city about 9 years ago and judging from photos it did not change incredibly since than. So how is it, that the population between 2000 and 2010 rose by nearly 50% (!) ?

Did they incorporated other towns in the county (why is that not mentioned in the article?) ? Otherwise there would have to be a huge buildup of new quarters in the city including of course 10s of thousands of additional jobs for the *massive* influx of people.

Could someone clarify the confusing numbers?

87.177.248.26 (talk) 21:35, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


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What a difference 9 years makes. Yes, it is true. The population number just shy of 404,000 is correct according to the latest US Census. The population has gone up by almost 50% within the last 10 years. No other towns were incorporated, no suburbs annexed (other than a few small districts that weren't really independent in the first place). Your "massive" influx of people is a direct result of just that: a massive influx of people from other states. The Triangle area as a whole now has a population nearing 2 million; Durham, Cary and Chapel Hill (and it's suburbs) have also increased exponentially in population. This was mainly a result of dozens of national news articles and magazine articles proclaiming the area at the top of it's "best of" lists (Forbes, Money, etc.) There was also a major job boom (which has leveled off considerably) during the past decade or two. Currently, job creation is NOT matching the influx of growth and population, and as a result the area has an only slightly lower unemployment rate than the state as a whole.

So, don't be confused. Lots of things, including the population, have changed since you left.

Sunday, July 24, 2011

Religion demographics

I feel that it is important to include a section of religious demographics in the article.. especially since Raleigh is the seat of many religious insitutions. Raleigh is the seat for the Roman Catholic Diocese of Raleigh, the North Carolina Annual Conference of the United Methodist Church, the Episcopal Diocese of North Carolina, etc. Not to mention the significant Jewish population and prominant evangelical, A.M.E. and baptist populations. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 19:03, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, if you can find a reliable source for such information, feel free to cite that source and add the information to the article. --Jayron32 19:27, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Structure

Hi. I'm going through all the US Cities (as per List of United States cities by population) in an effort to provide some uniformity in structure. Anyone have an issue with me restructuring this article as per Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline. I won't be changing any content, merely the order. Occasionally, I will also move a picture just to clean up spacing issues. I've already gone through the top 20 or so on the above list, if you'd like to see how they turned out. Thoughts? Onel5969 (talk) 16:14, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am all for that! I think uniformity within a particular category of articles makes the Encyclopedia much more user friendly. John from Idegon (talk) 19:12, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Move request

There is a move request concerning a redirect to this page at Talk:Raleigh (disambiguation) Calidum Talk To Me 12:29, 23 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

West Raleigh eastern border and Sacred Heart Cathedral

West Raleigh section mentions Sacred Heart Cathedral. Subjective choices for an eastern border of West Raleigh aside, one block from the Capitol building is downtown. An argument could be made for the original grid border West Street, or the better choice of St. Mary's Street, but I see no reason to include the church in West Raleigh section. --Dexmadden (talk) 03:44, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What is missing from the city timeline? Please add relevant content. Thank you. -- M2545 (talk) 11:01, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 26 August 2022

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The result of the move request was: Not Moved Mike Cline (talk) 13:02, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Raleigh, North CarolinaRaleigh – The city name is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and already redirects here. PhotographyEdits (talk) 10:50, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Pictures

I'm sorry, but the pictures on this page by Dennis Ludlow (both of college-age women) seem a little creepy. Does anyone else agree? Or could they be replaced with other pictures of the places being photoraphed? Ramendoctor (talk) 00:03, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I replaced the one in the recreation section because the venue was not mentioned in the text, and the second one because there was already an image of the same university above it. The images are of harmless public activity, but as you mention, seem unsavory when you consider they're by the same author and other options are available. The woman in the university picture looked particularly unwilling to be photographed, and there's no good reason why she should be front and center in a photograph of an entire courtyard. Unknown Temptation (talk) 16:30, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]