Talk:Chamar

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 31 March 2023

CHAMVAR (talk) 10:58, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

During the medieval period, the Chamar community faced social and economic discrimination due to their caste status. However, they also had opportunities to gain economic and political power by aligning with ruling dynasties.

During the colonial period, the Chamar community was heavily impacted by British policies, including the introduction of Christianity, which led to some members of the community converting to Christianity.

After India gained independence in 1947, the Indian government introduced various affirmative action policies to provide equal opportunities and reduce discrimination against low-caste communities, including the Chamar community.

Today, the Chamar community is a politically active community with several prominent leaders who have played a significant role in Indian politics. Despite progress, the community still faces discrimination and struggles for equal rights and opportunities.

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:05, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Raka Is a Punjabi singer which caste is chamar

103.186.73.208 (talk) 19:17, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Xan747 (talk) 19:39, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Avantivarman was the Chamar[2][3]who founded the Utpala dynasty.He ruled Kashmir from 855 to 883 CE and built the Avantiswami Temple in Awantipora, Pulwama.

King Avantivarman belonged to chamar caste but these manuvadis won't let this information come out in open. They have always been oppressive and don't want any so called low caste could reclaim it's status or atleast know it's history. It was clearly mentioned in Ain-e-akhbari that King Avantivarman was a chamar king. I would like to request the editor to kindly go through the book(Ain-e-akhbari) and know the history. 43.247.41.244 (talk) 07:52, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Edit Chamar page

hey i want to edit Chamar page please allow me to edit this page. Maheyyash (talk) 11:48, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

You need to be an extended confirmed editor to edit the page. However, if you have specific changes in mind, you can make an edit request.RegentsPark (comment) 17:49, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Ya, I want to change the history section because that history is related only to one sub group Jatav and not to the entire Chamar community.

so i want to some clean up in the history section and adding the History which is related to Chamars not to the jatavs Maheyyash (talk) 19:54, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 31 October 2023

Change "Movement for upward social mobility Between the 1830s and the 1950s, the Chamars in the United Provinces, especially in the Kanpur area, became prosperous as a result of their involvement in the British leather trade.[11]

By the late 19th century, the Chamars began rewriting their caste histories, claiming Kshatriya descent.[12] For example, around 1910, U.B.S. Raghuvanshi published Shri Chanvar Purana from Kanpur, claiming that the Chamars were originally a community of Kshatriya rulers. He claimed to have obtained this information from Chanvar Purana, an ancient Sanskrit-language text purportedly discovered by a sage in a Himalayan cave. According to Raghuvanshi's narrative, the god Vishnu once appeared in form of a Shudra before the community's ancient king Chamunda Rai. The king chastised Vishnu for reciting the Vedas, an act forbidden for a Shudra. The god then revealed his true self, and cursed his lineage to become Chamars, who would be lower in status than the Shudras. When the king apologized, the god declared that the Chamars will get an opportunity to rise again in the Kaliyuga after the appearance of a new sage (whom Raghuvanshi identifies as Ravidas).[13]

A section of Chamars claimed Kshatriya status as Jatavs, tracing their lineage to Krishna, and thus, associating them with the Yadavs. Jatav Veer Mahasabha, an association of Jatav men founded in 1917, published multiple pamphlets making such claims in the first half of the 20th century.[14] The association discriminated against lower-status Chamars, such as the "Guliyas", who did not claim Kshatriya status.[15]

In the first half of the early 20th century, the most influential Chamar leader was Swami Achutanand, who founded the anti-Brahmanical Adi Hindu movement, and portrayed the lower castes as the original inhabitants of India, who had been enslaved by Aryan invaders.[16][17]"

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Utpala dynasty

Main article: Utpala dynasty Utpala dynasty was a Kashmiri kingdom which ruled over the Kashmir region in the northern part of the Indian subcontinent from 9th to 10th century CE. The kingdom was established by Avanti Varman, ending the rule of Karkota dynasty in 855 CE.

Chamar-Satnami kingdom

There was a Satnami Kingdom of Narnaul (Haryana). The Satnami sect was founded in 1657 in Narnaul (a town in today's Indian state of Haryana, situated about 100 km south-west of Delhi), by a saint names Birbhan. They are considered to be an offshoot of the great saint Ravidas.

The Satnami revolt 1672

During the rule of Puritan Mughal Aurangzeb, there was resentment among Hindus for revival of Jaziya and general destruction of temples under imperial orders. The revolt triggered when a Mughal soldier killed a Satnami. The Satnamis killed the soldier in revenge and in turn Mughal soldiers were sent to teach them a lesson. Some 5,000 Satnamis stood up in arms and routed the Mughal troops in the town, drove away the Mughal administrators and set up their own administration under their leader Birbhan.

The rebellion was crushed when Aurangzeb himself took personal command and sent 10,000 troops with artillery to crush the Satnamis. In the sort of a large battle, some 2000 Satnamis were slain. This was followed by an attempt to pursue and kill every member of the Satnami sect, thus a kind of genocide happened. The remaining Satnamis fled in all directions and for a long time remained disorganized. This is one reason that the small population of Satnamis is found scattered in several parts of the country. Maheyyash (talk) 18:57, 31 October 2023 (UTC)