Talk:Modern flat Earth beliefs
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One tiny fly in the ointment
Inasmuch as this article is cross-referenced by an article on 'Denialism', it is problematic.
Because, unfortunately, in every-day experience, and for very nearly all practical purposes ... the world is indeed 'flat'. Uh-oh.
Do architects pre-occupy themselves with the reality that the rectangular footprint of the building they design will not, in fact, sit on a perfectly 'flat' area of the Earth (ignoring site levelling, for argument's sake)? I think not. For all practical purposes they can, and do, allow themselves the convenience that follows from treating the area of Earth of interest as essentially flat. Similarly airlines can operate as though the world is flat.
Perhaps a distinction is needed between 'flat' and 'round'. The imprecision of the English language being the only real problem. The Earth is at once both flat, and round. They are not mutually exclusive ideas. Only very particular interpretations of the two words are.
122.151.210.84 (talk) 23:37, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
- You haven't backed up any of your statements with evidence. The burden of proof is on you. Cite credible sources. Also please read WP:FORUM. Sadke4 (talk) 12:09, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
- Not necessary. Special Contributor is engaging in sophistry, viz, arguing from concept 1 (random plot of land) to concept 2 (Planet Tellus) both covered by the term "earth", i.e. ambiguity. Furthermore it is argued that any random plot of land is flat, which would create great dismay among rock climbers and slalom skiers, having their hobbies based on delusions of heightness; i.e. a falsehood, or untrue premiss. T 46.212.185.190 (talk) 02:23, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- yes architects take the curve of the Earth into account when building bridges. Go measure a large bridge and you will be able to find the tips of the towers are farther apart than the base because of the distortion inherent to a globe. It's not need for regular buildings with small footprints though cause the difference is too small and is often just adjusted for in construction methods. IRMacGuyver (talk) 07:25, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
There are many Flat Earth Societies all around the globe
This statement deserves to be in the article.
"There are many Flat Earth Societies all around the globe"
It was removed for no reason.
RamotHacker (talk) 06:44, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- I removed it because it is an old joke, not very funny, but most of all because it did not support the mission to build a serious and respected encyclopedia, see WP:NOTEVERYTHING. It is not the first time this has been added to (and removed from) Flat Earth articles, so this removal followed Wikipedia consensus. Sjö (talk) 06:55, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- There are two "The Flat Earth Societies". One referred to in the article is at [tfes.org]. The other is at [theflatearthsociety.org]. Both are mentioned in the 2016 article from the New Yorker Inside ‘Flat Earth,’ Tila Tequila’s New Belief System and the Wokest Conspiracy Theory of 2016. I'm not sure how to add this to the article given its current construction. It's also not clear if either of these "organizations" are incorporated or registered in any way.--Nowa (talk) 20:48, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
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In these five bits:
idea that the earth was flat and immovable ridiculous claims about flat earth and therefore discredit the flat earth movement Flat earth believers in the documentary the flat earth conspiracy argues that a shadowy group and promotes flat earth ideologies
Please change "earth" to "Earth". There are 280 appearances of this word before the references, and except for a few spots where another author is quoted, all of the other 274 use "Earth". 175.39.61.121 (talk) 07:36, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
Orion is not a Southern Hemisphere constellation
Orion is about half in the Northern Hemisphere and half in the Southern. For example, Betelgeuse (Alpha Orionis) is at Declination +7° 24′ 26″. Correcting this requires too much rewriting so I am leaving that to others; just pointing it out. 67.167.254.120 (talk) 08:19, 28 October 2022 (UTC)Larry Siegel
- That was simple. I deleted Orion, keeping Crux and Centaurus.
- Also, new stuff goes to the bottom of the Talk page. --Hob Gadling (talk) 08:47, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
Vehement voice
The vehemence is tangible… I get that flat earth is bullshit, but Wikipedia has a neutral voice policy for a reason. Please uphold it. 96.232.183.53 (talk) 00:56, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
- NPOV doesn't mean that we don't call complete bullshit bullshit. Rather, the opposite. We get more than a few readers who believe in this nonsense. Acroterion (talk) 01:01, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
- Domain of NPOV is opinions. There can be no neutrality about scientific facts as they are not opinions. One of Wikipedia's purposes it so stand such neutrality. Lajoswinkler (talk) 14:20, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
Proofs for the skeptical
Should there not be a section with a bunch of different proofs that the earth is a rough sphere and/or a bunch of flat earth "arguments" that are clearly disproved? 146.231.177.14 (talk) 10:05, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
- No. This is not what Wikipedia is for. Instead, we should link to pages that do that. --Hob Gadling (talk) 10:59, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
- Done Added a link to Empirical evidence for the spherical shape of Earth to "See also". Koopinator (talk) 18:44, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
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