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The Vector 2022 skin will now remember the pinned/unpinned status for the Table of Contents for all logged-out users. [1]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 September. It will be on all wikis from 28 September (calendar).
Gadget definitions will have a new "namespaces" option. The option takes a list of namespace IDs. Gadgets that use this option will only load on pages in the given namespaces.
Future changes
New variables will be added to AbuseFilter: global_account_groups and global_account_editcount. They are available only when an account is being created. You can use them to prevent blocking automatic creation of accounts when users with many edits elsewhere visit your wiki for the first time. [2][3]
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Wikipedia mobile apps teams. During the meeting, we will discuss the current features and future roadmap. The meeting will be on 27 October at 17:00 (UTC). See details and how to join.
Hello again. Wondered if you would be willing to drop these ten pages to Extended Confirmed temporarily for me to fix the WP:LINT errors on each? If any are not subject to temporary lowering, that is fine. I assume the same conditions as past similar requests, and will notify you when complete.
@Zinnober9 I somehow missed this. Apologies. All done, but I will be restoring them when you're done (mainly due to bot spam, since these are actual talk pages, not archives.) Courcelles (talk) 15:09, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
Not a problem, and I wasn't in a hurry. I am all done with these now, so back to full they may go. Thank you for your assistance! Zinnober9 (talk) 04:57, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
Today's story is about a great pianist with an unusual career, taking off when he was 50. It's the wedding anniversary of Clara and Robert Schumann, but I was too late with our gift. Just for fun: when do you think did Mrs. and Mr. Schumann get their infoboxes, and by whom? (The answer can be found here, but please think first.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:42, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
Yes. But both after the Composers' RfC, and he even after the arbcase. And both no problem, no discussion, no revert, imagine ;) (and of course both not by me, - I made her GA much later) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:32, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
Today I remember Raymond Arritt, who still helps me, five years after he died, per what he said in my darkest time on Wikipedia (placed in my edit-notice as a reminder), and by teh rulez. - Latest pics from a weekend in Berlin (one more day to come). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:23, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
I just got to hear a group of students practice a song about the aurora and dark Alaskan nights. While it is unbearably hot and humid and bright outside. Some days I wish I had the talent to really even hear music, much less produce it! Courcelles (talk) 17:50, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
Could you check if PicassoPlent is a sock of Masterofroblox? They've started to use the AntiVandal script without rollback, which is something multiple previous socks did. The last sock I know of is JaioLang, which looks stale, but maybe there's some newer data that could be used. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 19:56, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
Oh, good lord… who was it, they’re filed under a different master, that was doing exactly this this Spring? No hard CU proof, but that’s not a newbie. Courcelles (talk) 22:15, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
I think it's the same person as DoubleBaconBap, Malaruxus, and GettingRoofedFaYah (I can't remember if these are all one group of socks or not), but those are all stale and there's not much behavoural evidence to go on. I'll keep an eye on their contribs and edit my script so they can't use it without rollback. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 23:07, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
@Ingenuity Going off the CU logs says those accounts and the current one are using the same (exceedingly large) ISP. But it’s not one geolocation is meaningful for. Courcelles (talk) 00:42, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
I wanted to personally thanked you after taking an action on WP:ANI[5]. Honestly, I confused between Integrity or Helping Hand, but in the end I choose to give this one instead.
Thank you very much for your actions. I really appreciate it.
January 12 - 14, 2024, Berlin, Germany (and online) - CFP: Provenance Loves Wiki - A workshop on art history, art science and provenance research in Wikidata/Wikipedia & Wikibase
Ongoing
Weekly Lexemes Challenge #110, Ohm's law (Challenge started on 2023-09-25 12:01:32)
This Week
Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call October 3, 2023: Lars Willighagen will discuss on citation.js.org, Wikidata, and plans for more linked data. Agenda
Wikidata for Better Health (in French) - Houcemeddine Turki, Faculty of Sciences SFAX < closing session of "Adapting Wikidata to support clinical practice using Data Science, Semantic Web and Machine Learning"
Swiss Archives is an interactive overview map of the Swiss archives present in Wikidata have corresponding Wikipedia articles and in which language (FR, DE, IT), allowing interested Wikimedians to know where they can contribute or expand. - Michael Gasser (X post)
WikiProject GLAM-BW - a project to connect major collections held by museums in Baden-Württemberg by uploading information on collectors, former collection locations, collecting histories, and objects
Development
Wikibase REST API:
We are finalizing the work on getting the labels, descriptions and aliases of a Property.
We are finishing work on modifying the descriptions of an Item.
You can now add sitelinks to Wikifunctions (phab:T342857)
We improved the “required” marker on Special:NewLexeme, hopefully making its meaning clearer (phab:T322683)
If you are not logged-in, you’ll also get the yellow warning when editing Lexeme’s Lemmas, Forms, and Senses (phab:T343979)
We added the tlh-latn and tlh-piqd codes for monolingual text, so that now you can add the titles to Shakepear’s works in the original Klingon (phab:T286239)
Mismatch Finder:
Failed uploads now no longer offer to download review results (phab:T335864)
We are working on the ability to report mismatches on qualifiers (phab:T313467)
The Mismatch Finder will show a clarifying message when Java Script is disabled (phab:T343344)
When creating an article, check to see if there is an entry in the sister project Wikidata. If your subject is listed, the Wikidata information can be useful
Hi. In the case of suspected meatpuppetry (that includes the creation of articles with made-up content), do we file a SPI report as usual or de we take the issue to ANI? Best, M.Bitton (talk) 12:27, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
Either works just fine, because meatpuppets can be treated like sockpuppets. Just be careful that if there is of-wiki evidence that outing can be an issue, so it may be better to send things off-wiki to a CU privately. Courcelles (talk) 13:35, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for the link. I saw the ANI notice but was too lazy to hunt it down. I suspected, though, that there was no known master from the comments on KR's Talk page. I will tag KR and the new one. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:42, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
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Recent changes
There is a new user preference for "Always enable safe mode". This setting will make pages load without including any on-wiki JavaScript or on-wiki stylesheet pages. It can be useful for debugging broken JavaScript gadgets. [6]
Gadget definitions now have a new "contentModels" option. The option takes a list of page content models, like wikitext or css. Gadgets that use this option will only load on pages with the given content models.
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 October. It will be on all wikis from 5 October (calendar).
Future changes
The Vector 2022 skin will no longer use the custom styles and scripts of Vector legacy (2010). The change will be made later this year or in early 2024. See how to adjust the CSS and JS pages on your wiki. [7]
Yeah, I think is was... Qatar (?) that at one time was routing its entire traffic through a /20. Not exactly a small place. Of course, it got blocked. Drama was the result. Courcelles (talk) 13:24, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
Been following the updates on article Hardeep Singh Nijjar due to the current news on his murder and also following discussions on talk page of the article. New user Wrythemann has raised curiosity as this user account was created on Sep 5, 2023 [8] and instantly jumped right into noticeboards discussions (prompting me to think that he might be admin), nothing like a new user would do with comments to other users about wiki policies (something a new user wouldn't know about right away). It felt like this user isn't new. I mean there is nothing that indicates this user is new. Could be one of the user who was blocked and created new account or could be a duplicate account of another user. This below is my finding which I thought might be of interest. Again, this is just curiosity, I might be wrong.
[9][10]199.81.206.151 (talk) 16:21, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
I seem to have found myself caught in an IP range block and I was wondering if perhaps I could get the IP block exempt right? Given that it's a proxy block that I've been caught in, I read through possible remedies which included sending an email to the check user team, though I don't have an email associated with my account and I'd rather keep it that way for privacy. It did say that you could contact a checkuser directly, so here I am. I've continued to mobile edit for a few days, but it's become increasingly evident to me that it's incredibly difficult to move pages on mobile, and a lot of what I do is in the RM arena. I appreciate any help/insight you can provide. Many thanks, sincerely, estar8806 (talk) ★17:01, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
Neither do I, and the geolocation is a ways off (both IPs are in the Russian Federation, but not near each other). I don't have a chance to do a deep dive right now, either. Courcelles (talk) 18:42, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
PhD was blocked on August 12. The Fool created an account on September 18. They both intersected at British Isles naming and its Talk page. Of the Fool's 48 edits, 37 of them have been on those two pages. Fool fancies themself an historian based on his comments about Ptolemy and other subjects. On the flip side, PhD is much more aggressive and attacking; otherwise, I would have blocked behaviorally, but I think there's enough to warrant a check. Your call, of course.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:07, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
Not enough to block, IMO, thanks for checking. If I may ask, why are the next 12 weeks going to be so busy for you (in RL)?--Bbb23 (talk) 22:17, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
Thanks. Don't seem to be doing much more than sticking my finger in the dam that is SPI's backlog these days. But, trying to help. Courcelles (talk) 14:34, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
An RfC is open regarding amending the paid-contribution disclosure policy to add the following text: Any administrator soliciting clients for paid Wikipedia-related consulting or advising services not covered by other paid-contribution rules must disclose all clients on their userpage.
Technical news
Administrators can now choose to add the user's user page to their watchlist when changing the usergroups for a user. This works both via Special:UserRights and via the API. (T272294)
WMF GLAM report: Wikisource Loves Manuscripts, ICOM outreach, Flickr Foundation partnership, OpenRefine adoption, new sources in The Wikipedia Library, Image Description Month events, and the GLAM Wiki Conference
The next Wikidata+Wikibase office hours will take place on Wednesday, 16:00 UTC, 18th October 2023 (18:00 Berlin time) in the Wikidata Telegram group. The Wikidata and Wikibase office hours are online events where the development team presents what they have been working on over the past quarter, and the community is welcome to ask questions and discuss important issues related to the development of Wikidata and Wikibase.
Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group Working Hour October 13, 2023: Over the summer and into the fall the LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group will be offering a series of Wikidata Working Hours to give folks an opportunity to try out various Wikidata-related skills and tools by assembling a data set of diverse library and information science (LIS) materials (articles, conference proceedings, books) and adding it to Wikidata. Wikidata Working Hours provide hands-on Wikidata experience in a supportive space. We hope you will join us if you are interested in learning more about Wikidata, exploring LIS literature, and have been looking for a fun Wikidata project to contribute to. The fifth Wikidata Working Hour in the series will cover manually adding authors and publishers from our bibliography into Wikidata. This session will be recorded and the recording shared on the event page. Event page
Is AI lying to us? These researchers built an LLM lie detector of sorts to find out - Tiernan Ray, ZDNET ("Step one is to come up with a list of over 20,000 questions and known answers, drawn from sources such as Wikidata, for which the large language model, in this case, OpenAI's GPT-3.5, can be reliably expected to provide the correct answer.")
Data Scraping, Gathering & Annotation (in Ukrainian VO, English text) < lecture on data gathering, Wikidata, SPARQL and structured data from Ukrainian Catholic University
Wikidata: first pragmatic approach - Ismael Olea - OpenSouthCode 2023 < an introduction to Wikidata - the objective of this talk is for the public to leave amazed and addicted to Wikidata.
Tool of the week
https://aletheiafact.org <- is a new fact-checking website using Wikidata for people/concept identification. The website allows users to contribute to fact-checking claims made by public figures, such as politicians, celebrities, and influencers.
Wikibase REST API: We worked on the new routes for PATCHing Property and Item aliases as well as PUTing Property labels and descriptions (phab:T342982, phab:T337371, phab:T337371, phab:T348150)
We are continuing to work on fixing an issue with Lexeme pages missing styles and scripts (phab:T344362)
We’re adding some missing license notes to some javascript UI interfaces (phab:343998, phab:T343999)
Mismatch Finder: We are continuing the work on supporting mismatches for data that is stored in qualifiers (phab:T313467)
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Recent changes
One new wiki has been created: a Wikipedia in Fon (w:fon:) [11]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 10 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 11 October. It will be on all wikis from 12 October (calendar).
Starting on Wednesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "Add a link" (Swahili Wikipedia, Walloon Wikipedia, Waray Wikipedia, Wolof Wikipedia, Kalmyk Wikipedia, Xhosa Wikipedia, Mingrelian Wikipedia, Yiddish Wikipedia, Yoruba Wikipedia, Zhuang Wikipedia, Zeelandic Wikipedia, Min Nan Wikipedia, Zulu Wikipedia). This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure how this feature works locally. [12]
At some wikis, newcomers are suggested images from Commons to add to articles without any images. Starting on Tuesday, newcomers at these wikis will be able to add images to unillustrated article sections. The specific wikis are listed under "Images recommendations" at the Growth team deployment table. You can learn more about this feature.[13]
In the mobile web skin (Minerva) the CSS ID #page-actions will be replaced with #p-views. This change is to make it consistent with other skins and to improve support for gadgets and extensions in the mobile skin. A few gadgets may need to be updated; there are details and search-links in the task.
At both events, all attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct. In addition, to participate in person, you should be vaccinated and also be sure to respect others' personal space, and we may limit overall attendance size if appropriate.
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Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call October 17, 2023: Our scheduled speaker had to unexpectedly cancel, so please join us to transfer group call notes from the Google Drive to the wiki project page (see instructions link in agenda document!) Agenda
The next Wikidata+Wikibase office hours will take place on Wednesday, 16:00 UTC, 18th October 2023 (18:00 Berlin time) in the Wikidata Telegram group. The Wikidata and Wikibase office hours are online events where the development team presents what they have been working on over the past quarter, and the community is welcome to ask questions and discuss important issues related to the development of Wikidata and Wikibase.
Wikidata Day NYC '23 Join fellow Wikidata-enthusiasts on October 29th at the Butler Library, 114th Street West, NYC for a free Wikidata-celebration with a selection of engaging workshops and presentations to attend.
State of the Map EU 2023 has a session on OSM-Wikidata Map Framework on Sunday, 12th Nov., taking place in Antwerp, Belgium.
Wikidata Days: WM-Peru (in Spanish) attend a 2-day event, with sessions devoted to Wikidata, OpenRefine, QuickStatements and SPARQL.
Wikimedia Chile: Wikidata Training Course Staying in South America, Chilean and all Spanish-speakers can attend a 4-day Course and earn a participation Certificate. Online event - 17 to 20th October.
Press: Indexing news with AI via BroadCast Pro ME ("We are able to create a rich multilingual archive, leveraging translations based on the Wikidata knowledge graph.")
Drag'n'Drop Gadget <-- This handy gadget allows you to click and drag information from a Wikipedia article and add it to a Wikidata-item as a Statement. By Magnus Sälgö.
LIVE Wikidata editing #110 <-- Ainali and Abbe98 do some live editing on Wikidata (in English), and discuss the thought process of what we are doing and why we do it.
User:Nikki/ChecksumCheck.js <-- This script displays a symbol after external identifiers which contain checksums, to indicate whether the checksum in the identifier is correct. Currently only supporting a small number of Identifiers.
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Recent changes
The Unified login system's edge login should now be fixed for some browsers (Chrome, Edge, Opera). This means that if you visit a new sister project wiki, you should be logged in automatically without the need to click "Log in" or reload the page. Feedback on whether it's working for you is welcome. [15]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 October. It will be on all wikis from 19 October (calendar).
Future changes
In 3 weeks, in the Vector 2022 skin, code related to addPortletLink and #p-namespaces that was deprecated one year ago will be removed. If you notice tools that should appear next to the "Discussion" tab are then missing, please tell the gadget's maintainers to see instructions in the Phabricator task.
I just blocked Ge0ffrey de smet for a personal attack at WP:ANI (reverted by another user). Ge0ffrey is openly promoting OptaPlanner, his software, and related products. It also looks like Ge0ffrey created (sock) or recruited (meat) Jdmbs to help (among other things, Ge0ffrey uses Jdmbs's sandbox). I'm inclined to block both indefinitely, but I thought it might be good to know beforehand whether they are socks or meat.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:55, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
EMail makes my wrist buzz ever since I got this "smart" watch that thinks I'm talking to it all the time... makes it harder to ignore! Courcelles (talk) 13:56, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
Unusual result of block evasion
I don't know if this happens much, but an article that was in draft form when you blocked the editor just made it through AfC. It looks likely that they continued editing it as an IP after the block, to bring it to the status in which it was approved. You had blocked the editor some days after this ANI thread that I started.
Just thought you might want to know. I can't say for sure whether or not they created a new account after the block; there's a low signal-to-noise ratio in the pageant articles. ☆ Bri (talk) 17:13, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
A while ago you protected Port Blair. You did this at the behest of a user who had falsely described obviously good edits as vandalism. This user in fact has a long history of making false accusations of vandalism when they have merely decided on a whim that they don't like a certain edit. You protected the article in a poor state, rewarding the disruptive editor for their harmful behaviour. You should remove the protection and restore the improvements that were made. 185.104.136.31 (talk) 06:27, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
Edit-A-Thon for LGBTQ+ History Month < Binghamton University Library, New York, Oct. 25th. Help make visible the important contributions of queer figures.
Wikidata Birthday Edit-A-Thon (Albanian) < Albanian language Wikimedians celebrate Wikidata's Birthday with a 2-day event (Oct. 28 - 29, 2023) near the "Aleksandër Xhuvani" University, Elbasan.
Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group Working Hour October 23, 2023: Over the summer and into the fall the LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group will be offering a series of Wikidata Working Hours to give folks an opportunity to try out various Wikidata-related skills and tools by assembling a data set of diverse library and information science (LIS) materials (articles, conference proceedings, books) and adding it to Wikidata. Wikidata Working Hours provide hands-on Wikidata experience in a supportive space. We hope you will join us if you are interested in learning more about Wikidata, exploring LIS literature, and have been looking for a fun Wikidata project to contribute to. The sixth Wikidata Working Hour in the series will cover batch creating items using OpenRefine.This session will be recorded and the recording shared on the Event page
4th Wikidata Workshop as part of the International Semantic Web Conference. 7th Nov., Athens, Greece.
Live Editing #110 < Develop your SPARQL query-building skills in this follow-along session.
Tutorial on Wikidata for or WikiConnect course (in Portuguese) <-- Explaining the Wiki Movimento Brasil's WikiConecta Wikidata course. The course entails Understanding what Wikidata is and its operating logic, Learning the basics of editing and recovering data, and Understanding why and how to use Wikidata with your students.
Birthday Presents from Data Engineering and Semantics Research Unit:
MedCYN as an intuitive web tool for Wikidata-based clinical decision support.
MeSH2Wikidata as an approach for validating and classifying biomedical relations in Wikidata based on MeSH Keywords of PubMed scholarly publications.
Tool of the week
User:Magnus Manske/annas archive.js is a userscript that automatically links to Anna's Archive from Wikidata items for books and research articles, for title, DOI, ISBN, etc. so that people can easily get access to them.
Other Noteworthy Stuff
There is a new update relative to the Wikidata Query Service scaling of the backend, that explains how the team will experiment with splitting the Wikidata Query Service graph and use federation for the queries that need access to all subgraphs.
Mismatch Finder tool improvements: In the next deployment scheduled for November 1, the tool will let you report mismatches on qualifiers in addition to the main part of a statement.
We are preparing for WikidataCon and the Data Modelling Days.
We are looking more into where Wikibase needs to be adapted to the upcoming IP Masking changes.
We added a notification about the license to all edits to labels, descriptions and aliases that was missing still (phab:T343998) The same for Lexemes is coming next (phab:T343999)
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There is a new Language and internationalization newsletter, written quarterly. It contains updates on new feature development, improvements in various language-related technical projects, and related support work.
Source map support has been enabled on all wikis. When you open the debugger in your browser's developer tools, you should be able to see the unminified JavaScript source code. [16]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 October. It will be on all wikis from 26 October (calendar).
Hey, can you confirm that Mo Mazen is a sock of Ottomanor? I would like to increase the block duration of Ottomanor (not sure precisely how much yet), but just in case it's a joe-job or freakish coincidence... Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:40, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
Yeah, I was sure they'd be the same looking at the exact revert... but there's nothing technically there. Different countries, etc... Courcelles (talk) 16:50, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
Prince of Roblox
You blocked Wrythemann [17] and now the New user NeutralClaims [18], account created on 10 October 2023 is suspiciously one of the many socks of Prince of Roblox [19] with similar editing patterns which doesn't indicate this new user to be an "actual" new user. 205.182.133.63 (talk) 13:19, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
FYI, these barrage of IPs/proxies on your talk page are HaughtonBrit who is continuing his harassment campaign against me through proxies. Since his account Ralx888 was banned, HaughtonBrit has been incessantly hampering my edits either logged out or through sock accounts like Rivanawam, Jaagit, Elifanta23 and Ralx888 along with IPs such as [20] and [21]. Now he is using proxies-[22] + [23] + [24] (trying to get me blocked by saying Wrythemann is my sock) + [25] and this 205* IP here. (The 199 and 192* IP is his confirmed sock btw as per his SPI archives). This is really quite disturbing behaviour.
Recently, this 65* IP/proxy showed up [26] pushing the same religious chest thumping edits as HaughtonBrit, also editing the same page that the PrinceofRoblox sock did-[27] very strongly indicating this is HaughtonBrit . The IP is displaying very simliar behaviour as UnbiasedSN (whom I belive is HB's puppet account) who also made disruptive POV edits to hamper me-[28] and [29] with the same exact messages on my talk page-[30] and [31], essentially copy pasting the same message I left on their talk page. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 03:28, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
What is happening here is that Suthasianhistorian8 is upset that socks of Prince of Roblox keeps getting caught and blocked and trying to tie me to something to just prevent any more socks of Prince of Roblox from getting blocked. I have been editing wikipedia since last 12 years and my IP has always been in good standing. I suspected Suthasianhistorian8 to be sock or say having connection with the socks of Prince of Roblox such as Wrythemann where both their edits overlapped [32] and [33]. After Wrythemann was blocked, new sock emerged NeutralClaims who too was found to be sock of Prince of ROblox but what is interesting here is that NeutralClaims's very first edit was on Suthasianhistorian8's talk page [34]. Its like an attempt to prove they both have no links to one another. Why would a sock of Prince of Roblox out of all the users on Wikipedia, try to connect with Suthasianhistorian8? Another attempt to separate from Prince of Roblox is where IP65 makes changes to same page that NeutralClaims did Abhinandan Varthaman and somehow Suthasianhistorian8 now recognizes this IP65 as sock of Prince of Roblox? Come to find out Suthasianhistorian8 himself had been blocked for having a sock farm before his probation completed. [35]. Could it be that connection between Prince of Roblox and Suthasianhistorian8 was missed? There is clear indication of sockpuppetry or meatpuppetry here.170.170.200.154 (talk) 13:10, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
That was one of the masters I thought of. I deleted the SPI filed by the account. Any reason not to tag and close the report you filed for the record?--Bbb23 (talk) 17:20, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
Berceuse my class decided pandemonium was the correct way to come back into the room? (I.e. done now that I can sit down again.) Courcelles (talk) 17:36, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
I assume you mean because, but berceuse is an amusing extended French typo. Is this that 12-week thing you mentioned in late September? You're the teacher? Did you ever watch Downton Abbey? The butler/footman Molesley takes up teaching in middle age and his first class devolves into chaos. Happy ending, though.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:59, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
I read the About of one official website and the About of another related website (not sure why there are two), and then looked briefly at the FAQs of the second website. After I was done (didn't want to read anymore), I felt like I had tried to read a science article on Wikipedia, meaning a lot of gobbledygook that I didn't understand and didn't want to understand. I hope you're getting something positive out of it.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:12, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
Well, as long as you're here for the moment, I'll impose. I already have a master's in imposition (a PhD in complaining). I stumbled across ToadetteMisoSoup, a blocked VOA, which, because of only the username, made me think of a (problematic) editor, ToadetteEdit. Other than the usernames, I didn't think there was much evidence that they were the same person, but then some interaction between TMS and DrowssapSMM led to an analysis of the edits of TE and DSMM. Here's the page intersection of the three of them. What seems most telling to me is the project space pages TE and DSMM intersect on. I blocked TE on August 30 from ANI for 3 months for "clerking" at ANI, mostly adding useless comments on threads that did not involve them. They had been warned about it before the block. DSMM had never edited ANI until September 18, when TE was no longer able to post. In some respects similar to TE, DSMM supported blocks and bans. Although TE has far more edits than DSMM, DSMM is the oldest account.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:05, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
I need to come up with more users so you run out of continents. I don't suppose there's such a thing as a microcontinent? Thanks for checking.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:33, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
Feels like Known Rod to me, but I've not been able to ever determine who the underlying master was below those two...and this new account would actually be the master between these three due to the sleeper nature of it? Stranger. @Ponyo has done a few checks in this underlying IP, so adding her to the conversation. Courcelles (talk) 14:09, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
TTT24 has definitely been on that IP before, they're listed on CU wiki if you want to compare. Just blocked a whack of their socks last week, but the SPI needs to be clerked. There could very well be multiple masters on that single IP.-- Ponyobons mots20:15, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
If someone bloats articles while logged out, creates templates for fictional characters, and generally imports Wikia-style content to Wikipedia, they're TTT24. I'd say it's pretty much a guarantee if they're on an IP I've already blocked in the past. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:38, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
Welcome to the 600th Wikidata Weekly Summary!
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
Welcome to the 600th Weekly Summary!
Lydia initiated the weekly newsletter at the start of the Wikidata project, before it even went live, to keep the community in the loop about the developments, the new projects and tools. Léa carried on the newsletter in 2016 and then it was my turn in 2020. The newsletter has been going strong for eleven years, with its content powered by the community, and delivered every week without fail. Thank you to everyone who helped fill in the different sections of the Weekly Summary thus far ❤️ --Mohammed
Today it is time to celebrate Wikidata’s 11th birthday. Let’s take a look back at the past year and what’s coming.
Wikidata’s world - map of Wikidata Items with a geocoordinate
There are now over 12.200 amazing people who are actively editing on Wikidata - 3000 of them even making more than 100 edits a month ♥️ Thank you! Without you Wikidata wouldn’t be what it is today. Thank you for helping give more people more access to more knowledge every single day. This year also marks the year we can welcome a new sister to the Wikimedia projects: Wikifunctions is live, letting us all geek out on functions in anticipation of Abstract Wikipedia. Another big milestone was Wikibase Cloud coming out of private beta. Now you can more easily run your own Wikibase and collect and maintain data that doesn’t fit into Wikidata. 2023 was also the year when the efforts of Wikidata editors were recognized across the Wikimedia movement with the awarding of the Wikimedian of the Year award to Taufik Rosman and the Wikimedia Laureate award to Siobhan Leachman. Over the coming year I want us to find ways how we can bring more people, who are already editing a bit here and there, closer to the community and help them find their place in our community. If you are one of them and have not found your place yet, check out a WikiProject related to your interests. Wikidata has something for everyone 😉
Wikidata now has over 106 Million Items and nearly 1.2 Million Lexemes. We are closing in on 2 Billion edits, making about 20 Million edits per month. All this content is used to create useful, quirky, educational or just fun applications that wouldn’t be possible without Wikidata and all the work you put into it. Check out Notable People for example. Over the coming year we want to make that even easier by building better APIs, lessening the strain on the Query Service, doing more outreach to developers as well as making our data more usable by ironing out ontology issues. In addition there will be increased focus on improving how the other Wikimedia projects integrate Wikidata. With the opening up of Wikibase Cloud we will hopefully also see many new Wikibases pop up that cover more specialized data or be used as playgrounds to prepare data for Wikidata. I am looking forward to a growing Wikibase Ecosystem and excited about more Linked Open Data becoming available to the world, with Wikidata being an entryway to it all.
And last but not least: if you want to learn a bit more about the history and backstory of Wikidata, then you might like Wikidata: The Making Of by Denny, Markus and me.
List of presents gathered by the community for Wikidata's eleventh birthday
Luthor is a multi-lingual tool for adding usage examples to lexemes on Wikidata, from sentences found on Wikisource in the same language. (by Asaf Bartov)
সংকলক একটি সরঞ্জাম যেটা দিয়ে উইকিসংকলনের লেখাগুলির উইকিউপাত্ত আইটেম অনুসারে সে লেখাগুলিকে উন্নত ভাবে অনুসন্ধান করা যায়। - Sangkalak is a tool with which Wikisource works can be searched more readily, using the Wikidata items for those works. (present from Mahir256) (by মাহির২৫৬-এর উপহার)
Creating new Lexemes? For a lot more languages you now no longer need to provide a spelling variant when creating a new Lexeme, making it even easier to contribute data about words in your language. (present from the development team)
The Mismatch Finder, the tool to help review mismatches between Wikidata and other data sources now also has support for mismatches on qualifiers. This allows it to be useful also for issues that are in the data in qualifiers. (present from the development team)
Upcoming: Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call October 31, 2023: We will hear from Darnelle Melvin, Cory Lampert, and Andre Hulet, University of Nevada-Las Vegas Libraries, on WireframeVG: A Search and Discovery Application for Wikidata Projects. Agenda
How cultural institutions use Wikidata (How cultural heritage institutions sharing their collection data, including implementing Wikidata projects, batch uploading datasets to Wikidata, and how to share successes to a broader audience) - Jackie Rubashkin, Metadata Technician, Barack Obama Presidential Library; Michelle van Lanschot, Project Coordinator at Wikimedia-Netherlands; William Blueher, Associate Museum Librarian at the Metropolitan Museum of Art and Will Kent, Wiki Education
(in Chinese) Wikidata基礎編輯教學 (Wikidata basic editor) - Conference for Open Source Coders, Users & Promoters (COSCUP) 2023
Notable People is a map project by Topi Tjukanov that showing birthplaces of the most "notable people" around the world. It uses the combined data of Wikipedia and Wikidata from the paper's "a cross-verified database of notable people, 3500 BC-2018 AD" by Morgane Laouenan, Palaash Bhargava, Jean-Benoît Eyméoud, Olivier Gergaud, Guillaume Plique & Etienne Wasmer. The data shows only one person for each unique geographic location with the highest notability rank.
Wikimedia Research Fund Update update. "You can apply for research funds (USD 2K-50K) until December 15, 2023. While all research proposals related to Wikimedia projects are welcome, we particularly encourage research studies on medium to small size languages and communities, as well as in low resourced languages and projects."
The Wikidata For Wikimedia Projects team is investigating the different ways Wikidata is used in the sister projects. We would like to speak with you about your experiences integrating or connecting Wikidata, if you'd like to tell us, please sign up for an interview on our project page or on our Registration Form.
Wikidata:WikiProject Academic Publisher - a project to display open access shares (among others based on publishers) at the Austrian Datahub for Open Access Negotiations and Monitoring
Development
Wikibase REST API: We are continuing the work on making it possible to remove a description in a given language from an Item, modify the label of an Item and add aliases to an Item (phab:T342986, phab:T342980, phab:T335842)
Lexicographical data: We switched the Property that is used to pre-select the spelling variant on the Special:NewLexeme page from P218 (ISO 639-1 code) to P305 (IETF language tag) to make use of the latter’s larger coverage. (phab:T348923)
EntitySchemas: We are continuing to work on addressing the feedback from the testing of the new datatype in the test system.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
The Structured Content team, as part of its project of improving UploadWizard on Commons, made some UX improvements to the upload step of choosing own vs not own work (T347590), as well as to the licensing step for own work (T347756).
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 31 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 November. It will be on all wikis from 2 November (calendar).
Listings on category pages are sorted on each wiki for that language using a library. For a brief period on 2 November, changes to categories will not be sorted correctly for many languages. This is because the developers are upgrading to a new version of the library. They will then use a script to fix the existing categories. This will take a few hours or a few days depending on how big the wiki is. You can read more. [38][39]
Starting November 1, the impact module (Special:Impact) will be upgraded by the Growth team. The new impact module shows newcomers more data regarding their impact on the wiki. It was tested by a few wikis during the last few months. [40]
The WikiCup is a marathon rather than a sprint and all those reaching the final round have been involved in the competition for the last ten months, improving Wikipedia vastly during the process. After all this hard work, BeanieFan11 has emerged as the 2023 winner and the WikiCup Champion. The finalists this year were:-
Congratulations to everyone who participated in this year's WikiCup, whether they made it to the final round or not, and particular congratulations to the newcomers to the competition, some of whom did very well. Wikipedia has benefitted greatly from the quality creations, expansions and improvements made, and the numerous reviews performed. All those who reached the final round will win awards. The following special awards will be made based on high performance in particular areas of content creation and review. Awards will be handed out in the next few days.
Unlimitedlead wins the featured article prize, for 7 FAs in total including 3 in round 2.
MyCatIsAChonk wins the featured list prize, for 5 FLs in total.
Lee Vilenski wins the featured topic prize, for a 6-article featured topic in round 4.
MyCatIsAChonk wins the featured picture prize, for 6 FPs in total.
BeanieFan11 wins the good article prize, for 75 GAs in total, including 61 in the final round.
Epicgenius wins the good topic prize, for a 41-article good topic in the final round.
LunaEatsTuna wins the GA reviewer prize, for 70 GA reviews in round 1.
MyCatIsAChonk wins the FA reviewer prize, for 66 FA reviews in the final round.
Epicgenius wins the DYK prize, for 49 did you know articles in total.
Muboshgu wins the ITN prize, for 46 in the news articles in total.
The WikiCup has run every year since 2007. With the 2023 contest now concluded, I will be standing down as a judge due to real life commitments, so I hope that another editor will take over running the competition. Please get in touch if you are interested. Next year's competition will hopefully begin on 1 January 2024. You are invited to sign up to participate in the contest; the WikiCup is open to all Wikipedians, both novices and experienced editors. It only remains to congratulate our worthy winners once again and thank all participants for their involvement! (If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send.) Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:51, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
Lovely, yeah thats the one. If I want to work on it do I just do that from the blocked users draft? Would I be able to submit it once it's cleaned up and has adequate referencing? I've had a look at available references and it might pass WP:MOSFILM. Thank you so much for finding it. Knitsey (talk) 17:24, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
Yeah, you can either work on the draft there, or if you want to use absolutely none of the material, I can put it back in the trash and you can start fresh de novo, either way. And, actually, as not the creator, you can just move it into mainspace when you think it is ready. Courcelles (talk) 17:26, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
Brilliant. I'm still looking for more refs. I will decide tomorrow if I want to start from scratch or use what they have already.
Hi again, I think I'm going to do this from scratch. I need the experience, the existing draft isn't really populated. Do I need to wait for its deletion? Thank you. Knitsey (talk) 15:35, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
Indefinitely semi-protected or extended confirmed protected pages needing prior PC settings reset
Greetings, the following indefinitely semi-protected or extended confirmed protected pages have not had their prior PC settings reset for whatever reason.
All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct. In addition, to participate in person, you should be vaccinated and be sure to respect others' personal space, and we may limit overall attendance size if appropriate.
Upcoming: Data Modelling Days, November 30-December 2. You can propose a session until November 19. If you are running another event or meetup and would like to connect it to the Data Modelling Days, you can add it to the satellite events section.
Knowledge Graphs and Semantic Web is a collection of preceedings from the 5th Iberoamerican Conference and 4th Indo-American Conference, KGSWC 2023, Nov. 13–15. By F. Ortiz-Rodriguez, B. Villazón-Terrazas, S. Tiwari & C. Bobed.
linguistic family of place name (Relates directly a placename to its original language family. It's not the language in which the toponym is written, but the language from which the word (place name) comes from.)
according to (to be used together with P248 if the statement is taken from an aggregator rather than directly from the source)
counterexample (qualifier for deprecated P279 statements; example instance or subclass of the item class for which a "subclass of" statement does not hold (alias: "item belonging to the subject class but not the value class"))
Newest WikiProjects: Source Reliability "is an effort to identify and aggregate online sources of assessments of the reliability and credibility of sources".
Development
Wikibase REST API:
We have implemented the endpoints for PATCH /entities/items/{item_id}/aliases (phab:T337371), PATCH /entities/properties/{property_id}/aliases (phab:T342982) and PATCH /entities/properties/{property_id}/labels (phab:T342980)
We started working on the new endpoints for POST /entities/items/{item_id}/aliases/{language_code} (phab:T335842) and DELETE /entities/items/{item_id}/descriptions/{lang_code} (phab:T342986)
Language codes:
We made Special:NewLexeme more likely to guess the spelling variant for you by changing the Property we use to get the language code. Now you will see the spelling variant input pop up less often. (phab:T349652)
We started work towards allowing many more languages by default for Wikibase Lexeme and monolingual text statements. This will remove the need for a lot of requests for new language codes to be added. (phab:T341409)
Query Service UI: We’ve fixed a small issue in the Query Service UI that was introduced when updating CSS variables. Content of selected cells in the query result should be readable again. (phab:T350153)
EntitySchemas: We are continuing the work on the new data type for linking to EntitySchemas, working on overcoming architectural issues.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
In the Vector 2022 skin, the default font-size of a number of navigational elements (tagline, tools menu, navigational links, and more) has been increased slightly to match the font size used in page content. [41]
Problems
Last week, there was a problem displaying some recent edits on a few wikis, for 1-6 hours. The edits were saved but not immediately shown. This was due to a database problem. [42]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 November. It will be on all wikis from 9 November (calendar).
The Growth team will reassign newcomers from former mentors to the currently active mentors. They have also changed the notification language to be more user-friendly. [43][44]
Following a motion, the contentious topic designation of Prem Rawat has been struck. Actions previously taken using this contentious topic designation are still in force.
Following several motions, multiple topic areas are no longer designated as a contentious topic. These contentious topic designations were from the Editor conduct in e-cigs articles, Liancourt Rocks, Longevity, Medicine, September 11 conspiracy theories, and Shakespeare authorship question cases.
Following a motion, remedies 3.1 (All related articles under 1RR whenever the dispute over naming is concerned), 6 (Stalemate resolution) and 30 (Administrative supervision) of the Macedonia 2 case have been rescinded.
Following a motion, remedy 6 (One-revert rule) of the The Troubles case has been amended.
An arbitration case named Industrial agriculture has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case close 8 November.
Miscellaneous
The Articles for Creation backlog drive is happening in November 2023, with 700+ drafts pending reviews for in the last 4 months or so. In addition to the AfC participants, all administrators and New Page Patrollers can conduct reviews using the helper script, Yet Another AFC Helper Script, which can be enabled in the Gadgets settings. Sign up here to participate!
South Africa report: Edit-a-thon for Librarians at the annual Library and Information Association of South Africa 2023 Conference
Sweden report: Wikipedia for all of Sweden; Museums and Wikidata – why and how?; Photo memories from Stockholm and Rome; Negotiating Knowledge on Wikipedia
Can you untangle this mess? At this point, gun to my head I'd say Tombah and Zhomron respectively with some coördination... But the account creation date on HaNagid is surprising so maybe I had the wrong master there? (Not that that changes blockability; was XC-gaming if nothing else.)
(tps) I'm passing by the sidelines, and don't have a tremendous amount to add, but I do want to inform that I recently blocked a load of socks who appear to be יניב הורון/Yaniv (roughly here). From what I've seen, which is not everything, the others appear to be likely unrelated. I don't know if that helps or muddies everything, but may be worth knowing. -- zzuuzz(talk)13:37, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
The technical data is a mess, and I do not have time to dig into it today to see if I can pull out anything useful. I'll try tomorrow? Courcelles (talk) 14:31, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
Sure. No particular rush, as both accounts are indeffed and likely to stay that way. Just figure it's best to untangle this now rather than a month from now when it's "Well this new account is a lot like Emolu and a little like HaNagid so uh... who do we block as?" -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 15:57, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Courcelles. :) Just checking if you've had a chance to look at this. If you're busy, I can put it up at SPI or nag someone else who knows the topic area's LTAs. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|she) 12:34, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
Sorry, @Tamzin, the end of this MAT is just taking every second I have and not letting me think of looking at this place much. Come on Thanksgiving. Courcelles (talk) 14:46, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
Yes, me too. - I met a very strange concept yesterday: the idea that linking to a list of a composer's works from his biography is breaking policy. (I met it sooner, but it was more pronounced yesterday.) See Talk:Gioachino Rossini, and no, it's not infobox yes or no but if such infobox may contain the link (arguing then that without the link the box would be worthless). I don't know what to say, really, - would you have an idea? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:06, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
I admit I do not have time to read that discussion (my class is coming in and I need to start teaching soon), but why would a subarticle like that not be linked somewhere in the main article? That's the very idea of summary style I do believe. Courcelles (talk) 12:35, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
I have no idea. In the main article, it would be the same problem, and I just don't get it. Not to link to a person's works, that are only in a separate article because a creator was too prolific, looks kafkaesque to me. - The infobox wars - if they ever existed - should have been over when WTT put the Beethoven compromise in place (in 2015 that was, and has been stable since), but that features exactly the link that is now questioned, - in other words, instead of finally accept the compromise, find something wrong with it? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:14, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
Hi Courcelles,I am not so familiar with the English Wikipedia and its rules because I normally only work in the deWikipedia. For a course that deals with the topic of stereotypes and that I supervise at the University of Zurich, it would be helpful to remove the protection of the article Stereotypes of African Americans that you created in August. Is that possible? Lantus (talk) 09:24, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
It’s only protected against editing from accounts that have not existed for 4 days and made 10 edits. If you’ve got students who need access, I can flag them as exempt from those requirements, but the protection is stopping the flood of racism that plagued that article. Courcelles (talk) 17:19, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 September. It will be on all wikis from 28 September (calendar).
The ResourceLoader 
Guideline and policy news
Technical news
Arbitration
Miscellaneous
Unrelated. And I'm surprised, too. Courcelles (talk) 16:30, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
BeanieFan11 has emerged as the 2023 winner and the WikiCup Champion. The finalists this year were:-
Thebiguglyalien with 1615 points
Epicgenius with 1518 points
MyCatIsAChonk with 1012 points
BennyOnTheLoose with 974 points
AirshipJungleman29 with 673 points
Sammi Brie with 520 points
Unlimitedlead with 5 points
Lee Vilenski wins the featured topic prize, for a 6-article featured topic in round 4.
LunaEatsTuna wins the GA reviewer prize, for 70 GA reviews in round 1.
Muboshgu wins the ITN prize, for 46 in the news articles in total.
Administrator changes
Interface administrator changes
