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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 31.55.242.67 (talk) at 19:10, 22 November 2023 (→{{UTRS|81421 }}). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

My Other Wiki Is Magic

Hi Yamla, did anyone check My Other Wiki Is Magic? In their ranting unblock request (reverted by me), they claimed, among other things, to be an administrator. If that's true (seems very dubious) and they are an active administrator, that should pop up in a check, unless they are intentionally using proxies to obfuscate matters. Doug Weller and Bishonen thought the user was a sock, but I don't know if Doug ran a check.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:53, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I did as did another CU. I found nothing and I expect the other didn't either. Doug Weller talk 08:02, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not going to run a CU as two others have. What a bizarre claim from that user. Sounds like someone reading what The-symbiant was posting. Presumably some sort of LTA. --Yamla (talk) 10:11, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:28, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Bbb23, Doug Weller, Cullen328, and Bishonen:: That's AttackTheMoonNow, aka Brian K Horton, aka MickMacNee. Usual fantasy stuff. -- zzuuzz (talk) 16:05, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ewww, thanks. --Yamla (talk) 16:06, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ahhh, that makes sense, a voice from the past. Probably should be glocked.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:14, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I am unsurpised, but I certainly appreciate the research. Cullen328 (talk) 18:49, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pinzunski

Hi Yamla, after the user disclosed 3 IPs they evaded their block with, you responded "This list is nowhere near complete." After I pushed the user, they responded to your comment "It is complete, if I knew more I would have told."

My main reason for opposing their unblock request has to do with editing with IPs, both WP:LOUTSOCK before the block and evasion after. I am not asking you to - and I know you can't - disclose the IPs you alluded to in your comment. I'd like to get a handle on how many more IPs (just a number) the user failed to disclose, about how many edits they made, and how much of the IP use was ante-block and how much was post-block. Is that possible? Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:01, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look and respond here. --Yamla (talk) 11:56, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
They disclosed 3 IP addresses and assured us this list was complete. I believe they've subsequently admitted the list is not complete. As to IP used specifically for WP:LOUTSOCK, this list is less than half the IP addresses they've used. There's also  Confirmed socks, Sewy12 and Bloxorz12, albeit with no edits. See also this edit, which Pinzunski subsequently took ownership for; that IP address is not one of the ones they list. To be as clear as I'm permitted, there's unambiguously been WP:LOUTSOCK much in excess of the set of three IP addresses provided by that user, prior to the block on the account, and a very small number of edits made after the block on the account. Additionally, the technical data strongly indicates WP:LOUTSOCK was not accidental, prior to the block. You are free to copy this over to the user's talk page or to the SPI if it would be helpful. --Yamla (talk) 12:59, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Yamla, that's all very helpful. I didn't notice the block evasion by IP 145.44.96.12 on November 4, and generally I don't buy user claims of "accidental" editing without logging in. The system gives you a rather strong and visible warning that you are about to edit as an IP, at least it does if you're not editing from the mobile platform (and this editor doesn't seem to edit with a mobile). At this point, I'm not going to copy this discussion over to the user's Talk page.
I'm okay with creating a pro forma report at SPI if you think that would be useful. Despite the 0 edits, do you object to my tagging the master and two confirmed accounts Drmies blocked above? Frankly, because of the user's fairly apparent deceit, I'm inclined to point to this discussion on the user's Talk page and revoke TPA. I wouldn't even consider the standard offer unless the user is honest with us.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:58, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have no problem with you tagging the socks. As to the SPI, I suppose it's mostly a question of if they'll continue evading the block. Hard to predict the future, but it's probably worth the few minutes it'll take to create. Ping me there and I'll add my comments. :) --Yamla (talk) 14:37, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sure you got my ping, but see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Pinzunski.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:04, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm trying to recall how I got in here. I think I ran CU because a. I saw your block (Bbb23) and because I thought it was the Portuguese soccer socker. Carry on with this vexatious user, Drmies (talk) 16:50, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

User:Joaquinazo

I have a question, is this account another sock of User:Miggy72, who you blocked? As the user recreated Popular Resistance Brigades, which Miggy72 created before, hence my suspicion. Regards. Govvy (talk) 16:21, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you have reason to believe they are, please file a case in WP:SPI and I (or another checkuser) will be happy to take a look! Feel free to ping me if you create a sockpuppet investigation. --Yamla (talk) 16:23, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I wasn't sure I had enough evidence to go on, but my gut was telling me something might be off. So I thought I try you first. Govvy (talk) 16:32, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm certainly one of the blocking admins here but I'm not at all sure I'm the expert. :) I do appreciate the question, just not sure I have the relevant expertise. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Miggy72/Archive documents some of the tells. --Yamla (talk) 16:44, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I decided to open an SPI just incase, Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Miggy72, I did ping you on it. Regards. Govvy (talk) 16:50, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. --Yamla (talk) 17:09, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
So my hunch was right, cheers, regards. Govvy (talk) 22:29, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, nice job. :) --Yamla (talk) 22:30, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

thank you

thank you (again)

Begocc (talk) 15:26, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

we have a filter for malformed unblocks.

How cool is that! -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:35, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Tell me more! How do I find that? --Yamla (talk) 11:39, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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UTRS appeal #81421

Aside from reading CHATbot stuff, I assume this finds you doing as well as can be expected.😜 Don't know what to do with Angelic Devil. I've gone numb from reading their tickets. Unblock? Restore TPA? WP:AN? Decline? (sigh) -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:02, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I've been reading the requests. I think six months of non-trivial, problem free editing elsewhere (perhaps, 500 non-trivial edits over at least six months) and a demonstrated understanding of WP:RS and a topic ban on enthnography and origins, broadly construed, may be enough. I'm unsure, though. I mean, basically everything this user has ever done on Wikipedia was troublesome. I definitely think there's nothing in the current unblock request that indicates we should lift the block. All of this paragraph is an opinion which you are free to ignore if you see fit. :) In other news, we've seen some astoundingly bad chatbot requests recently. It doesn't give me hope for our new AI overlords, that's for sure. :( --Yamla (talk) 16:08, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No, I need the input. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:24, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
So, specifically I'm advocating for declining the unblock request but giving them the above path forward, just in case I wasn't clear enough. I think that would be enough for me to support an unblock request in the future. Not a guarantee, of course, but a significant step toward that. --Yamla (talk) 16:27, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I told him so. So. We will see. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:43, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Fingers crossed. This sort of thing does work out from time to time. --Yamla (talk) 16:44, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Today's edits and discussion relating to Hackney Borough Council

Thanks for your helpful guidance. I will wait till the ANI discussion archives and, if no objections are received, will then post the wording I suggested at 19:02 to the article to conclude the matter. 31.55.242.67 (talk) 19:09, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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