User talk:Alansplodge

Hi

Hi, thanks for your answer on the Reference desk, but who are you? Why don't you have a user page? The Great Cucumber (talk) 20:25, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Ref desk - writing quote found

I feel a little lazy hearing how you found the quote I was searching for ... I must have a low frustration tolerance. Thanks again, nonetheless!

If you have the inclination to acquaint yourself with Dillard, I think you're in for a treat. Especially Pilgrim at Tinker Creek, Teaching a stone to talk, or her autobiography, An American Childhood. 198.161.238.18 (talk) 16:43, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks.

Cheers for the swift and accurate reply re the Faroe Isles. I thought no-one else knew they existed ! Really strange about the Danes paying for the tunnels too, I never knew that.

Plymouth

Thanks for writing more detail about Plymouth's history. I think the history section is now as big and detailed as it should get. We have a history of Plymouth article for extra details. The article is currently a "good article", which means its reliability needs to be maintained. In my opinion, citing Plymouth Data is fine. I checked up about that ages ago on Wikipedia and other users said that other sources should be used, if available i.e. historical books, but that otherwise Plymouth Data is "okay". Cyber-heritage, however, is not reliable. Do you have any other sources you could use for that one? Jolly Ω Janner 19:19, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Tolmers Scout Camp

An article that you created, Tolmers Scout Camp has been proposed for merging into the region article Scouting in East of England. I did not make this proposal, but I found a meregto tag on the article, and agreed with it, so I am doing the work on it. I have added the mergefrom to the target article, adviced the Scouting Project and now you, and will add justification for the merge soon to Talk:Scouting in East of England. Please comment there when I have done so. --Bduke (Discussion) 02:02, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Elizabeth II's descent from Brian Boru

Hey it me from the question on the reference desk. You describe a line of descent for me between Brian Boru and Elizabeth II, but can you give me a full line with the names of every person in the generation. Just put it on Descent of Elizabeth II from William I; I'm trying to show all of Elizabeth II's connections to all the past monarchs in the British Isles, including Ireland. Thanks a lot.--Queen Elizabeth II's Little Spy (talk) 02:02, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Colonel Grantham discussion

Hi, just to let you know I have copied and pasted our discussion to my talk page because I am going on holiday tomorrow, and the discussion at the reference desk will probably be archived before I get back. -- role^player 02:01, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Les Parisoises

Apropos your comment on "Nigeroise," Jacques Barzun, in one of his books, notes that Rouget de Lisle's song that became the French anthem was popularized by guys from Marseilles, but was in fact composed at the request of another city. Had things worked out differently, muses Barzun, the folks in Rick's American Cafe might have sung La Strasbourgeoisie. --- OtherDave (talk) 18:06, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

More on crickets!

Thank you for your suggestions on crickets at refdesk! The article is now at Crickets as pets and needs some attention to grammar and flow.

Chirp! East of Borschov 08:31, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Awesome

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		... for being the Master of Sleuths and unearthing Canada in khaki answering to The Call. Respectfully, ---Sluzzelin talk 21:47, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Gogmagog

Hi, do you want to bluelink Gogmagog (folklore) with the material you added to the article on the band (now movoed to Gogmagog (band)? DuncanHill (talk) 20:41, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

No problem - until you mentioned him on the refdesk I'd never got around to reading what was behind the bluelink (he's mentioned in some other articles I've edited). Thanks for making the stub. DuncanHill (talk) 18:19, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

WP:IAMNOTASCOTSMAN

Alansplodge, yir coament hir was well ootae order, yir tekkin the pish en aw, ye wide radge! In aw ma puff, Ahs nivir been claeser to Scotland than Nikko, that tourist toon in Japan. Mind, Ahs read aw ae thon Irvine Welsh novels. --Shirt58 (talk) 13:12, 21 October 2010 (UTC) ps: I've also been mistaken for a person from the subcontinent.

Thank you!

Alan, may I say thank you for posting that lovely article on chest tombs. It's fair made my day reading that one! --TammyMoet (talk) 10:13, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Scouting

Hi. Have to say g'day from Australia to a fellow Scout. I'm on the outskirts of Melbourne. Group Leader of a growing group of 50 something members.And yes, my Scouts "marched" in a local community parade a month ago. Could not keep in step to save themselves! HiLo48 (talk) 11:46, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm about 15 km further east of Wantirna, in a place called Mooroolbark. I actually have a couple of Cubs in my Group who live in Wantirna now, and are recent immigrants from London! They have just moved to Wantirna, and I guess they will join a group there soon. Glad you know something of our geography. I don't know much about London! Keep up the good work. HiLo48 (talk) 12:13, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Lohamei haGeta'ot's aqueduct

Hiya! I'm on the kibbutz for the entire month, and have taken some rather fetching photos of the lovely aqueduct. Would you like to add one or two for the article? If they are not excellent though, I can take others with my actual camera rather than cell camera. :p Just name the section of the aqueduct. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | Say Shalom! 06:10, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Actually, are we sure that it was Ottoman? From the source: "An early aqueduct was built in the Hellenistic period. From this aqueduct, which was mostly underground, several sections were discovered, including a Kilometer long section near Ness Harim, and two more sections in Kibbutz Lochamei Hagetaot." There are in fact two visible sections on and near Lohame haGeta'ot. So is it Ottoman or Hellenistic? xD Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | Say Shalom! 06:45, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello. You have a new message at Flinders Petrie's talk page.

13 Pounder Naval Gun

I came across this page which says that WWI Royal Navy motor launches were fitted with a 13 pounder gun on a naval pedestal mounting. This looks rather different to the QF 13 pounder 6 cwt AA gun. The page goes on to say that they were removed from MLs and mounted on Defensivly Armed Merchant Ships. An example of one was indeed recovered from a sunken merchant ship in 1982 and now stands on dispaly at Scarborough harbour. Does anyone know the official designation of this naval gun? We should at least mention it in this article, if not give it a seperate page. Alansplodge (talk) 13:36, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

That is definitely a 13-pounder in your linked article. Weird, I wouldn't have thought it would have been much use as a naval gun. If you can dig up any more authoritative info, the place to refer to the gun's naval deployment would not be in the AA gun article, but in Ordnance QF 13 pounder. regards, Rod. Rcbutcher (talk) 13:53, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

The gun in the motor launch photos is definitely the barrel and recuperator from a 13-pounder field gun, on a naval pedestal mounting - the short barrel with the recuperator above is unmistakable. I think after they proved unsuited to trench warfare, there were a lot of spare guns available for whatever use they could be fitted to, such as AA. Rod. Rcbutcher (talk) 16:13, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Red link and WP:EASTEREGG

Dear Alansplodge, I've changed back the "corrections" you made to Algerine class gunboat, Gipsy class destroyer and a couple of others. Just because there's a red link doesn't mean you should pipe it to something else (in this case, a ship index page). In fact WP:EASTEREGG says you should not do so, including piping HMS Barracouta to Cherokee class brig-sloop. Nevertheless, thanks for the good work on HMS Leven, and more power to your elbow. Yours, Shem (talk) 22:35, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Good luck with William Fitzwilliam Owen - if there's anything I can do to help, please ask. Shem (talk) 23:10, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Port Durnford, & Spencer rifle

Just a lot of thanks for your super-answer on Port Durnford (Humanities, 19 September 2011) T.y. Arapaima (talk) 08:55, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

You are too kind ! If you happpen to have another day off, may I ask you something more  : I'm looking desperately for a JPG of an Indian brave with a Spencer rifle , I want it to be in the § "Evolution" of my french article "Spencer (arme)". I'm pretty sure I saw that photo, but can't remember where... Do you know if it is in Commons ? T.y. , thanks a lot beforehand Arapaima (talk) 09:20, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a lot too for "Indians + Spencer rifle" ! Bonne chance à toi aussi, et merci ! (Good luck to you too, & thanks !) Arapaima (talk) 10:07, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Movie Title

Hi Alan

Thank you for the suggestion but it is not likely to be Zardoz far from it I do not remember Sean Connery in it. It was not a big film. I wonder whether it would be possible do dig the films showing at the Metropole Cinema London SW1 in the Autumn of 1973.

Sincerely Dona Lay — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.146.182.142 (talk) 18:34, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Movie title from 1973

Thank you for trying. I have a problem with registering with Britmovie somehow I cannot fulfil the field "add a title for the film" A Cloackwork what does it mean? for example I quote a british film The Scarlet Pimpernel what title I have to add for this?

Regards Sincerely Dona Lay — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.146.182.142 (talk) 23:43, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

I've just registered without any problem. The "Clockwork" thing is a quiz to prevent spam. The answer is "Orange" as in Clockwork Orange. Alansplodge (talk) 00:03, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your ready help on Ref. Desk, & best wishes for 2012

I incidentally happen to look supra at the rubric "Les Parisoises". In french, we say Les Parisiennes, La Marseillaise , La Strasbourgeoise.

BTW, I just nearly completed the translation into french of Military history of African Americans in the American Civil War , I'd appreciate if you'd look at it...Hal Jespersen has done it yet (& told me to be prudent while handling the "Black Confederates" hypothesis) but the more experts on it, the best. T.y. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arapaima (talk • contribs) 17:36, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

BEF and Dunkirk

Do you have any books which quote the exact figures for the numbers evacuated from Dunkirk? The issue is on Talk:British_Expeditionary_Force_(World_War_II)#Approximate, from which I have noticed that the first paragraph of the evacuation section is not referenced. I have spent an hour and a half looking through internet pages and PDFs of book snippets but they all give the same numbers apart from Churchill's tome.

My first instinct was to ref the numbers in the article, but after looking into the Dunkirk evacuation article for refs (as it looked like the BEF section might have been copied from there) it seems that the only possible source was (AJP) Taylor; unfortunately the Taylor book in the bibliography does not seem to be available online, and searches do not appear to have those numbers in.

Any help would be appreciated Chaosdruid (talk) 23:19, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the ref. It would seem even more convoluted than I orignally though, I will take a better look later tonight.

BTW - did you ever add any more on the second BEF? I remember we had the beginnings of a discussion about it, but seems we didn't go any further than opening sentences? Talk:British_Expeditionary_Force_(World_War_II)#The_.22Second_BEF.22_and_the_campaign_after_Dunkirk Chaosdruid (talk) 15:08, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Deleted post

There is a discussion which concerns you at Wikipedia talk:Reference desk#Deleted Birther soapboxing. SpinningSpark 19:38, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Tong Tusham

"Tung Tusham" must have been a typo for "Tung Fushan", which is rendered as "Dong Fushan" in the modern Pinyin transcription. I've expanded a bit the coverage in Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2012_April_6#Tung_Tusham_Island. -- Vmenkov (talk) 06:16, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for valuable help

Thank you for the valuable references and the timely completion of the response to my inquiry about the name of the SBS during the Korean War. Rnfriedman44 (talk) 10:28, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

The fate of British war dead

Hi Alan.

Your presence is requested over at User talk:Arwel Parry#The fate of British war dead for a discussion on the above subject that I've commenced there.

Cheers. -- ♬ Jack of Oz ♬ ^{[your turn]} 08:01, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Done. Alansplodge (talk) 23:29, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

"Some success..." indeed!

Dear Alan, your recent search on my Language ref desk query is serving me well. That Flickr page link you posted on Hebraized Latin Fonts was my virtual introduction to a still-active Flickrista in Switzerland who's evidently a typographer and fellow archivist. I'm looking forward to sending him some links to Holocaust-era graphic artists - one of whom, Pesach Ir-Shay, né Irsai István, he's already documenting but may not have seen the artist's Bergen-Belsen diary illustrations, nine originals of which are located downstairs and down the hall from my daytime office but also can be viewed online :-) Seriously distracting as typography collections are, I do believe I'll get some good advice from following this lead. So you have my hearty and heartfelt thanks and appreciation for your efforts. -- Cheers, Deborahjay (talk) 13:54, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Joseph Spiess

Hi. I am not sure you read the information I gathered on Joseph Spiess on WP:RD/H.

Joseph Spiess was born in 1838 see his birth certificate. This "proposal" explains why he was awarded the "Légion d'Honneur" and when (7 August 1913) — AldoSyrt (talk) 08:27, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

In response to your message on my talk page. He was Alsatian. This birth certificate was issued by the Préfecture of Seine département (for his marriage), but his birth place is Mulhouse (Haut-Rhin département). This birth certificate was issued in 1894 when Alsace was annexed to Germany. In 1872 Joseph Spiess choose to remain French see here. (Note. If you follow this link, you can click on the arrows to have access to his whole file recorded by the "Légion d'Honneur") — AldoSyrt (talk) 22:55, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

"A unique achievement by her mother"

Thank you for the laugh. --NellieBly (talk) 02:44, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Anthony Knyvett (1507-1554)

Hi. Would you mind if I tagged the question and answer at Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities#Sir_Anthony_Knyvet with the {{WPRDAC attention}} template, to mark the fact that a new stub article was created because of it and help monitor the RD's influence on mainspace content? - Karenjc 08:32, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Volunteer Training Corps (World War I)

Interesting article! If you haven't seen it already, you might be interested in the House of Lords second reading, of the 1915 Bill, which has a short potted history of the formation of the volunteers. Andrew Gray (talk) 20:18, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Boni & Liveright

Thanks awfully for the colophon, but the article seems to have pleased some french book-nerds to the extent that they removed in the legend the mention I'd made of your contribution. But you may find it in the first versions of the article. Thanks again for your help, take care. T.y. Arapaima (talk) 18:31, 7 November 2012 (UTC) Actually, they have even removed the monk colophon, & added some others ! Must be some colophon nerd ...Hope they wont think the louse-eradication jpg is not congruent in the chapter "Lutte contre les ligues de vertu"  ;-) ...T.y. Arapaima (talk) 18:38, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

MoDAH b'ashmaTEE

...which is transliterated Hebrew for "Mea culpa#Popular meaning." The admission of guilt plus explanation I wrote after our recent comments on the "Top hats among jew [sic] men RD/H query was intended for your Talk page, but it came out so cute I decided to share it with everyone who's following the discussion thus far. Seriously, you have my sincere appreciation for helping out on these queries which I, at least, find annoying and even mildly disturbing. -- Cheers, Deborahjay (talk) 08:47, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

You must be thirsty after that research

For your work in digging up references for Air National Guard units with special weapons, please enjoy this yard of ale. I updated the 174th Air Refueling Squadron article accordingly. Regards, Orange Suede Sofa (talk) 17:18, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

A yard of ale for you

Damned good thrashing

Hello Alan. I was delighted with this edit.

That's the sort of talk we should have more of. People should be threatened with damned good thrashings much more often than they are these days. Or with being whipped to within an inch of their lives. Or simply with being killed in an unspecified way. The sorts of things all good loving parents traditionally said to their children every day of the week. It never did them any harm. Why, just look at me.  :)

I think I'll revive this excellent practice of making hollow* threats of extreme violence, and I'll start with the next frail old person on a walking frame who doesn't get out of my way quickly enough. Or the next bank teller who short changes me by 5 cents. I'll start small, though. First, it'll be a thorough dressing down, and when that fails to have any appreciable effect on their unacceptable behaviour, as it surely will, the next step will be a threat of a damned good thrashing. Yes, that'll teach them a thing or two. Who says the age of tradition and chivalry is dead? Thanks for reminding me what the joy of life is all about. :)

(* Naturally, I'd never actually carry these threats out. Good Lord, no! I abhor violence. All the fun is in the threatening.) -- Jack of Oz ^[Talk] 22:23, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Your choice of possible targets reminds me of the early days of the internet, when I encountered some pompous old goons imitating their ancient ancestors by waxing lyrical about how the youth of today have no manners, don't respect their elders or the law, and so on. The particular ungodly practice that this goon-gathering found disturbing was that children sometimes rode their bicycles on the pavement. (This was before pavement cycle lanes became fashionable.) "It's against the law!", they cried. Being pompous old goons, it was not surprising that one of them quickly informed us that he took the law into his own hands, and gave such children "a good clout" to "knock them flying" off their cycles, and thus make them respect "the law". Much virtual goon-guffawing ensued.

I added my approval, and said that this was indeed an ideal way to uphold the law. That, in fact, I had tried it for the first time that very afternoon, knocking the postman off his bicycle and into a large thornbush. That particular postman always rode his bicycle on the pavement, I told them, but I bet he won't do it again!

The shocked virtual silence that greeted this revelation was most satisfying.

Round here both kids and postmen still ride their bicycles on the pavement, without any problems for the most part. I can't remember if either kids or postmen dismount from their cycles when making use of a school crossing patrol, though. It would be amusing if so - cycling on the pavement, but dismounted when in the road. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:49, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Enfield railway station

Hi, I noticed you expanded the Hertford Loop. Do you have any information on Enfield railway station (predecessor to its replacement, Enfield Chase)? Simply south...... walking into bells for just 6 years 23:55, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks anyway. Simply south...... walking into bells for just 6 years 16:37, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Saving you some effort

Hi Mr Splodge, and Merry Christmas. My Christmas gift to you is this. I noticed you linked a category thusly:

• Category:Advertising agencies of the United Kingdom

You could have saved yourself some key strokes etc by doing it thusly:

• Category:Advertising agencies of the United Kingdom.

That is, double bracket it as you would normally, but insert an extra colon before the word Category, and that converts it into a link, rather than categorising the entire page on which it appears.

Yo ho ho and Cheers. -- Jack of Oz ^[Talk] 18:52, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

James Archibald Ewart

Again let me thank you Alansplodge for the information you found on google for James Ewart. It seems to me that you used a method to search in google whch I don't know. I would therefore be grateful if you could please explain this method to me. Thank you. Simonschaim (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:37, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

A simple trick is to put the search term into inverted commas, which will only display exact matches. I tried "James Archibald Ewart", "James A Ewart" "J A Ewart" and "James Ewart". I finally found results on Google Books which you can find under the search bar, where it says "Web, Shopping, Images, More". If you click on "More" you get a drop-down menu - click on "Books". I think the search term that worked was was "James Ewart" Headmaster as there were quite a lot of James Ewarts. Hope this helps. Alansplodge (talk) 23:17, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. This has certainly helped and it has also taught me something for the future.Simonschaim (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 08:50, 21 January 2013 (UTC) 

Thanks for your response

I must say I was impressed with your prompt response to my, admittedly, poor phrasing of a question at the reference desk. You were spot on! Dare I say that the reference librarian at my local branch would've simply rolled his/her eyes at my question. Thanks for you time! Now I have a new subject on WP to research and hopefully edit constructively. Contributors like you make Wikipedia great, so, again, thanks! Ditch ∝ 22:26, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

The question was regarding the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon. Ditch ∝ 02:38, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Apology

I reverted your message at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities by mistake, sorry about that just a a bit of finger trouble. MilborneOne (talk) 16:42, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Stanley Spencer

Hi there. Just to let you know (if you don't see the RD/H entry before it scrolls off), the text and photos from "Motoring Illustrated" are available at User:Tevildo/MotoringIllustrated. And Beaulieu is positively infested with wild horses, re the Buffalo question. Tevildo (talk) 13:31, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Stanley Spencer

Happening upon your post at the help desk, I thought there must not be a lot of sources so I checked and it looks like there quite a bit, Since I performed the searches, I thought I'd drop them by in case they might be useful. Chronicling America; Trove; Brooklyn Daily Eagle full view book links; News sources. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:44, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

I've looked. No, can't find a first date of flight:-( Point of order you might like to know. I know the current stub hasn't been edited by you so I assume you're working on it offline, but the stub says the name of the ship was "Mellin" and the New Zealand article you named at the ref desk could easily be seen to support this. However, this article tells us the ships was "built ... to the order of Messrs. Mellin" which puts the New Zealand article, where it also looks like Mellin is the name of the ship, in a new light. This article also has a good bit of detail about the makeup of the ship, the materials used, the weight, etc. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:40, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

By (LLoyd) George, I think it's Mackenzie King

Per the recent reference desk discussion, I'm of the opinion Mackenzie King should be used rather than King in his article. Comments would be appreciated at Talk:William Lyon Mackenzie King#Naming convention. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:03, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK for British Volunteer Corps

The DYK project (nominate) 16:04, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Diagonal line for cavalry

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		This is for your research and the maps that you were able to find. Very helpful, and thanks a lot! Nyttend (talk) 01:24, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Walford High School/West London Academy

Hi there. I have recently created the article Alec Reed Academy, and having researched its history have redirected West London Academy to the article, as that is what Alec Reed Academy was known as until 2012. By doing this I noticed that you have added Walford High School to the Walford (disambiguation) article, and have stated that this school was renamed West London Academy in 2005. I can find no evidence of this, I have found that the school was previously known as Compton High School before 2003 but no mention of Walford High School. Do you know where you sourced this information from? Bleaney (talk) 17:48, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

No it was me being dim! If I had looked beyond Compton High School I would have found that it was previously known as Walford. For some bizarre reason I thought you had been caught up in a hoax in reference to EastEnders! It seems that this poor school has been failing for a long time, and gets a name change every few years or so. Anyway, sorry for the bother. Bleaney (talk) 15:59, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for all your help with this article, youve been great. Bleaney (talk) 18:58, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Woman at Brandenburg Gate

Hi, I was interested to read your comment about an iconic news video of a tearful woman demanding to be allowed to walk through the Brandenburg Gate "just once in my life". I've never seen this clip. I've looked for it on Youtube, but I can't find it there, nor anywhere else for that matter. Do you know where I can see it? Many thanks, --Viennese Waltz 15:59, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks very much, certainly a powerful and moving moment. --Viennese Waltz 06:44, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Coronation of King George VI and Queen Elizabeth

Hi! Did you write the article about the coronation of King George VI and Queen Elizabeth, or did you copy-paste the text from somewhere else? I'm asking because I'd like to nominate it for DYK. It looks great! Surtsicna (talk) 23:26, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

I figured it was your own work, so I nominated at it. See Template:Did you know nominations/Coronation of King George VI and Queen Elizabeth :) Surtsicna (talk) 09:39, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Coronation of King George VI and Queen Elizabeth

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:03, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Brunei

Thank you for answering my question :) But that's the old 1984 Brunei Constitution, this is the current one http://www.agc.gov.bn/agc1/images/LOB/cons_doc/dokumen-dokumen_perlembagaan_2008.pdf , and doesn't mentioned the things that were on the 1984's Const. any more, but now only as for current the purposes of the English language on Section 2 - "An official version in the English language shall be provided of anything which, by this Constitution or by any written law or by the Standing Orders, is required to be printed or in writing, and such version shall, in addition to the official Malay version, be accepted as an authentic text" , so can English still even be described as "Recognised" in regards to that Section 2? Alevero987 (talk) 04:13, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

I think that if the English language is actually mentioned by name in the constitution, then it IS recognized for some purposes, although the obvious thrust of the thing is that Malay should be the primary language. That's only my opinion and I'm no constitutional expert. It seems to me to be a rather minor quibble and I won't object if you decide to remove English from the refbox. Alansplodge (talk) 12:11, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks.

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		Good work adding the Congreve rocket information to Rocket launcher! Technically, this is a science fiction barnstar, but it's the only one I could find with a rocket on it. bd2412 T 19:06, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Merci, chéri

May the green fairy visit your dreams!

Thank you, Alan. Coming from you, this brittle star is meaningful. ---Sluzzelin talk 01:17, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

By the way, I don't know whether you know it or even appreciate this kind of time-waster, but I found it enjoyable: geoguessr.com. And see also xkcd's take: ---Sluzzelin talk 03:35, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

December 2013

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Royal Military Canal

Hi, Vale's history of the South Staffordshire Regiment confirms that the 2nd Battalion - who were part of 31st Ind Inf Brig - were based in Hythe in the later part of 1940. This was after September though, so not sure who was there at the height of the invasion threat as 31st Brig wasn't mobilised until July 1940. NtheP (talk) 16:06, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

You say badge I say patch

Sorry about the wrong deletion. I thought I was on Formation badges when I eliminated the talk page.

Here is a semihemidemibarnstar for <correcting my error>

--Lineagegeek (talk) 00:00, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Getting away with things

Hi Alan. I saw this, and I was going to retort that life is not about what one is able to get away with. But then I reflected that it actually is exactly that, most of the time.

May your 2014 be replete with getting away with as much stuff as possible. Cheers. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 23:15, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Coronation of Queen Victoria

Thanks for adding the music, which I've only just noticed, and the other 2 you've done! Johnbod (talk) 13:53, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Coronation of King Edward VII and Queen Alexandra

The DYK project (nominate) 08:01, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Cornwell Scout Badge

Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 16:01, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Boom Boom?

Can I assume that's the same as badump bump? I was unable to find a definition. μηδείς (talk)

Yes. I have replied on the RefDesk and amended the article that you linked to show "boom boom" as a British English alternative. Thanks. Alansplodge (talk) 17:09, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Musical taste

I saw your note on polyphonal choral music from the Renaissance and wanted to say that we share the same taste. Living in the States, I don't often run into people who appreciate that genre. Cheers. Marco polo (talk) 15:42, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

In response to your note, my taste probably goes back to my experience in a men and boys' choir in an Episcopalian (i.e., Anglican) church some decades ago. Our choirmaster in fact had us sing pieces by Byrd and Tallis, sadly not including the magnificent Spem in alium, which our small and amateur choir could not have pulled off. You are lucky that this kind of music is appreciated in England. It is possible to hear this music live in the States, but only occasionally and in a few places. Best wishes. Marco polo (talk) 18:48, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

The Like-Minded Persons' Club

Dear Alansplodge

"Dreaming the same Impossible Dream"		The Like-Minded Persons' Club
		For displaying common sense and uncommon good taste by agreeing with me here, I hereby bestow upon you Provisional Membership of the Like-Minded Persons' Club. To qualify for Full Membership, simply continue to agree with me in all matters for at least the next 12 months. (Disagreements are so vulgar, don't you think?)

Cheers. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 11:22, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

:-)

Hello A. This is wonderful. Thanks for tickling my funny bone. Have a nice weekend. MarnetteD|Talk 21:04, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Reference errors on 8 November

I can't post this directly on the Humanities Desk because it's semi-protected, and I can't post it a semi-protected edit requestion on the Reference Desk TalK Page either, because it's also semi-protected. Since it was your question, perhaps you would like to post the answer. (No, I'm not going to register a Wikipedia account; don't bother suggesting it.)

According to L.T.C. Rolt's biography of Isambard Kingdom Brunel (page 113 of the 1970 Pelican edition as reprinted in 1986, ISBN 0-14-007986-6), when the bill to authorize construction of the Great Western Railway was proposed, those looking for reasons to oppose the railway used the gradient in the Box Hill Tunnel as one of them. Rolt writes:

To those impassioned pleas the egregious Doctor Dionysius Lardner, one of the mainstays of the opposition, added all the ponderous weight of that pseudo-science of which he was one of the first and greatest masters. He had proved by elaborate calculation that if the brakes were to fail as a train entered the tunnel on the falling gradient it would emerge at the other end at a speed of 120 m.p.h., a speed, he added, at which no passenger would be able to breathe. At this Brunel pointed out drily that the factors of friction and air resistance must evidently have become lost in the Doctor's calculations because owing to their combined effect the speed would be 56 miles per hour and not 120. It would appear, however, that the eminent Doctor ... floated through life on an impermeable balloon of self-esteem. So far from accepting his defeat, he returned to the charge on several subsequent occasions though invariably with the same result.

(My ellipsis.)

Wikipedia's page on Lardner includes a slightly different version of this story, presumably referring to a different occasion when Lardner objected to the tunnel. --76.69.45.64 (talk) 16:01, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

...And you're welcome, whoever I am. :-) --76.69.45.64 (talk) 01:33, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Proposed Schuyt <-> Dutch barge merger

Hi Alan, I would appreciate if you can share your expertise at Talk:Dutch barge! gidonb (talk) 00:36, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

DYK for André Sordet

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Sentence of the week!

"My favourite ... name is Knockin in Shropshire" - while I understand this is a perfectly reasonable thing to say, it sounds rather funny to my AmEng ears, so thanks for the chuckle! I'm sure us Yanks say many things that sound silly to you too, but it's harder for me to notice those :) SemanticMantis (talk) 14:11, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Glad to be of service User:SemanticMantis. Knockin is on the route to the mountains of Snowdonia, so is a source of endless gags for hillwalkers and climbers. Alansplodge (talk) 15:45, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Featured article source review

Hello Alansplodge, I got your name from the list of members at Wikiproject Military History and I see that you have an interest in the Royal Navy between the 18th and 20th centuries. I currently have an article HMS Emerald (1795) nominated for Featured Article status at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/HMS Emerald (1795)/archive1. I have already received some support but the nomination is being held up for the lack of a source review. I don't suppose you would be interested in undertaking such a task, or perhaps you know of someone else who could help? I would be most grateful. Regards--Ykraps (talk) 06:45, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

I'll have a go, User:Ykraps, but what exactly is involved in "a source review"? Alansplodge (talk) 08:50, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Ah, you may well ask. It rather depends on who does the source review and how thorough they are; there is no consistency, partly because there are no guidelines which specifically relate to source reviews. Wikipedia:Featured article criteria says on the subject that, claims must be verifiable against high-quality reliable sources and supported by inline citations where appropriate and that citations are formatted consistently, so that would need to be checked throughout. As copyright violation is against our core policies, you should also check for close paraphrasing, and for online sources, this tool is really useful: [[1]] As you can see, HMS Emerald (1795) returns a 2% match, making violation unlikely, and in addition, that 2% exclusively comprises the names of battles and the names of the books used as sources. Unless you have access to the books used, the offline sources will have to be accepted in good faith.

If you really wanted to, you could include some examples, for instance:

Action of 26 April 1797

Text in article: "The Spanish ships surrendered at approximately 16.00. Eighteen Spaniards were killed and thirty wounded during in the fighting, with the British suffering one killed and one wounded".

Text in source: [[2]] "... that at four they struck to His Majesty's Ships, and proved to be the Spanish frigates Elona and Ninfa......From every account I have been able to collect, the two frigates had 18 men killed and 30 wounded. The Irresistible had one man killed and one wounded".

Second bombardment of Cadiz

Text in article: "A third bombardment was planned for 8 July but cancelled when the weather became stormy".

Text in source: [[3]] "The Rear-Admiral meditated another operation on the night of Saturday the 8th, under his own direction, but the wind blew so strong down the bay he could not get his bomb vessels up to the point of attack in time".

Text in article: "After the attack, Nelson sent Emerald with his report to Jervis who in turn sent her on to England with dispatches. Waller arrived at the Admiralty on 1 September, with the news of the failed attacks".

Text in source: [[4]] In letter from the Admiralty-Office, dated 2 September 1797 - "Captain Waller, of His Majesty's Ship Emerald, arrived here yesterday with Dispatches from Admiral Lord St. Vincent to…" and in letter from Admiral Jervis, dated 16 August 1797 - "The Emerald joined yesterday, with the inclosed dispatch and reports from the Rear-Admiral (Nelson); and although the enterprize has not succeeded…"

Text in article: "On 2 September it (the squadron comprising Zealous, Goliath, Swiftsure, Emerald, Seahorse, Alcmene and Bonne Citoyenne) encountered and destroyed a French aviso, Anémone".

Text in source: [[5]] In a letter from Samuel Hood, dated 19 September 1798 - "On the 2d instant (September) His Majesty's Ships Seahorse and Emerald chased in shore, where she anchored near the Town of the Arabs, the French Gun Boat (aviso) L'Anemone………On the approach of the boats of our ship she fired on them, cut her cable, and ran in shore into the breakers"

But as you can see, few people go to that much effort. I leave it entirely up to you, I would just be glad to get it done.--Ykraps (talk) 12:35, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

P.S. If you go to Wikipedia:Featured article candidates, you can see what other people have put.--Ykraps (talk) 12:42, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks ever so much for your offer but it appears that someone is now doing it. Sorry to have wasted your time but if there's anything I can do for you, now or in the future, don't hesitate to ask. Thanks again--Ykraps (talk) 16:17, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

I haven't done that bit, so this should be linked on the page of the FAC. Saves me doing it....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:30, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	Thank you for coming to my aid for the creation of a new article. I found the link provided inspirational, and I feel a lot better about writing this article. Jak474 (talk) 23:21, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

Reference Desk Question

Alansplodge, Thanks for answering my question about Slavery in Ancient Rome. --Johnnyg150 (talk) 00:20, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Autopatrolled granted

Hi Alansplodge, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the patroller right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! — MusikAnimal ^talk 03:41, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

British Expeditionary Force (World War II)

Greetings Alan, I've pasted in some edits from other articles, which cover some of your comments from 2012. Regards Keith-264 (talk) 21:02, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Battle of Passchendaele, ANI notice

I have opened a thread at ANI at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Move_discussion_going_nowhere_quickly about a discussion in which you have been involved. You are welcome to contribute to the thread at ANI, DuncanHill (talk) 23:31, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Merry Merry

Season's Greetings, Alansplodge! At this wonderful time of year, I would like to give season’s greetings to all the fellow Wikipedians I have interacted with in the past! May you have a wonderful holiday season! MarnetteD|Talk 16:07, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

HGWells

I removed your off topic Trump insult. Personal attacks of BLP's is not appropriate. μηδείς (talk) 21:19, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

If it makes you happy User:Medeis, but a) I didn't write anything which wasn't supported by a reputable citation and b) perhaps Donald Trump can take a joke, but who knows? Alansplodge (talk) 01:59, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Inquiry

Hello there,

I am interested in your edits concerning the Deutches Jungvolk page. I believe you are doing a great job in remaining unbias- how do you manage this?

Mike 1944 (talk) 18:43, 30 January 2017 (UTC) Interested beginner to Wiki

DYK for Leslie Skinner

On 19 February 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Leslie Skinner, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that during development of the M8 rocket in 1941, Leslie Skinner (pictured) built the first prototypes with casings made from old fire extinguishers? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Leslie Skinner. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Leslie Skinner), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 12:01, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Operation Jupiter (Norway)

On 7 March 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Operation Jupiter (Norway), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a senior British general described Winston Churchill's proposal to invade Arctic Norway, Operation Jupiter, as "not merely dangerous but useless"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Operation Jupiter (Norway). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Operation Jupiter (Norway)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 12:03, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Re:QPQ

Thanks for your message. A QPQ is shorthand for Quid pro quo, which basically means that because you've had more than 5 DYKs, then you have to review another nomination and post the link on your nomination before it can proceed to promotion. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 12:53, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

DYK for SS Tyndareus

On 26 April 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article SS Tyndareus, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that soldiers lined up on the sinking British troopship SS Tyndareus began to sing "It's a Long Way to Tipperary" while waiting for orders? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/SS Tyndareus. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, SS Tyndareus), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Map help

Thank you! I saw it yesterday when I didn't have time to do/say anything, and I'd since then forgotten to do anything. Nyttend (talk) 11:03, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Great stuff

Hello A. I'm guessing you have the bit between your teeth (and I mean that in the nicest way possible) regarding the Humpty Dumpty question. I hope you are having fun digging into things. I can remember when we would have had to go from one end of the library to the other to find all of the resources that we can now access on the computer :-) Thanks for all your work and have a pleasant weekend. MarnetteD|Talk 19:09, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi,

Just checking in to say thanks for the info you provided, on the MILHIST talkpage, in regards to my request for help with the 18th Division article.

Kind regards, EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 16:39, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thanks for creating Grillo-class tracked torpedo motorboat. That question was quite interesting!

(((The Quixotic Potato))) (talk) 16:52, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Voracity?

I suspect the word you were looking for is veracity.[6] ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 01:40, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Soviet offensive plans controversy

There seems to be some duplicated text in the Reactions and critiques and the Criticism sections of the Soviet offensive plans controversy article. The text starts with "Among the noted critics" and ends with "virtually no evidentiary base". Would you please be so kind to take a look? (((The Quixotic Potato))) (talk) 17:39, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your message User:The Quixotic Potato. I'm off on holiday tomorrow and won't have time to look at it tonight. I'll gladly have a bash when I get back next week if it hasn't been sorted by then. Best regards, Alansplodge (talk) 18:49, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you! We do not have a WP:DEADLINE and we are all volunteers (except those pesky paid editors which I am not a fan of). Have fun on holiday! (((The Quixotic Potato))) (talk) 20:01, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Albert > George VI

Hi, Alansplodge! If you believe we ought to mention the name George VI used as prince, can we at least come up with a wording that does not suggest he followed Edward VIII as Albert and then became George VI? Unless I am mistaken, as soon as Edward VIII ceased being king, Albert ceased being Albert, so it is only accurate to say that Edward VIII was followed by George VI. It is a complicated matter, and bringing it up where it is not absolutely necessary can only confuse people, IMO. Even "George VI (né Albert)" would be clearer, if necessary. Surtsicna (talk) 11:35, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your message Surtsicna, you have a point there. I have added "Before his accession, George had held the title of Albert, Duke of York, his regnal name being chosen in honour of his late father". I trust this is now acceptable. Alansplodge (talk) 11:51, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

WikiProject Women in Red/The World Contest

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A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thanks for all you do for Wikipedia! American474 (talk) 14:33, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you most kindly American474, you've made my day. Alansplodge (talk) 14:51, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

You are much welcome. I have been off Wikipedia for a while, and thought I would drop by your page. American474 (talk) 18:47, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for answer at Reference Desk

Thank you for answering my question about the number of polling stations in Venezuela. -- Communpedia Tribal (talk) 00:33, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

Most welcome User:Communpedia Tribal, it turned out to be easier than I thought! Alansplodge (talk) 08:19, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

Coronation of the British monarch

Hey! Would you mind if you could write a section for the British coronation article (right before the section for the service) about the ceremonial at Westminster hall and subsequent procession on foot to the Abbey before the service proper? I think this would add to the general overview of the sequence of events that formerly took place. Thanks. :) --OrbisR (talk) 16:56, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion User:OrbisR. I found some detail on this for the Coronation of Elizabeth I of England, so it shouldn't be difficult to do a brief overview. I'm away for a few days, but watch this space, or rather that space! Alansplodge (talk) 17:03, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Suggestion

"Gosh, it's the first time that I've ever edited an article about a popular beat combo; whatever next?"

How about a popular beet combo ? :-) StuRat (talk) 21:15, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Good call, StuRat, especially as "beetroot juice lowers risk of Alzheimer`s disease and dementia". There's hope yet! Alansplodge (talk) 21:22, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Yes, that's important, because the memory is the first things to go, while the 2nd is ... um ... hmm, I forget. StuRat (talk) 21:28, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for your back up on the Ref Desk nonsense about which phrase is best - at the side of or by the road. Richard Avery (talk) 19:50, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

John Wadham (died 1412)

Hi,

You were kind enough to direct me to The Teahouse for help on a draft article I have submitted on John Wadham, which SeraphWiki has currently rejected on the grounds that it appears overly reliant on one source, which I accept.

However, I cannot now even find the Draft: John Wadham to work on and add further citations and content to.

Can you, or anyone else, possibly help me ?

Please forgive my incompetence, I accept that I am a Luddite in my understanding of technology.

Kindest regards,

Even-tables Even-tables (talk) 15:20, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)@Even-tables: See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:John_Wadham (((The Quixotic Potato))) (talk) 18:59, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

John Wadham

Many thanks. Even-tables Even-tables (talk) 19:06, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Meridian

I too lived in Leytonstone for a while. Never realised the place was so interesting! Andy Dingley (talk) 20:02, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Andy, a fellow Leytonstonian. After writing that post on the RefDesk I had a look at the Leytonstone article and have added a bit to the history, but haven't got around to the Meridian yet. Maybe it needs a "Geography" section. Alansplodge (talk) 20:22, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

For the Milhist co-ordinators, AustralianRupert and MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:53, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Typo at Ref. Desk Science

Prostate not prostrate. Cheers DroneB (talk) 19:07, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

BEF

@Alansplodge: Have you seen anything I took out of BEF not in other articles? Let me know and I'll put it back. Regards Keith-264 (talk) 09:27, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

212

In case you missed it, the area code of the phone number you found the IP matches the first three digits of the IP itself. Bit weird, thought you might like to know. I also found "Lawrence Daitch" was three anagrams and followed this deeper down a rabbit hole into a tangled mess of vengeful Icelandic whale spirits and the (untimely?) Christmas death of a New York public relations guy named Alan, but then thought you'd find that much too much. Saved in a text file, though, in case it ever seems important to share. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:32, July 31, 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Thomas Hawker (British Army officer)

On 26 September 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Thomas Hawker (British Army officer), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a successful Peninsular War charge led by Thomas Hawker (pictured) was said to prove that the use of carbines by cavalrymen was "nothing short of insanity"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas Hawker (British Army officer). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Thomas Hawker (British Army officer)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Clairmarais aerodrome

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Mifter (talk) 12:02, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Precious

digging up references

Thank you for quality articles such as Vera Barclay, Chapel of St Thomas on the Bridge, Battle of Halberstadt, Scouting magazine (The Scout Association) and Clairmarais aerodrome, in collaboration, for help at the reference desks for language and humanities, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

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A year ago, you were recipient no. 2087 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:07, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

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Merry Merry

		Happy Christmas!
		Hello Alansplodge, Early in A Child's Christmas in Wales the young Dylan and his friend Jim Prothero witness smoke pouring from Jim's home. After the conflagration has been extinguished Dylan writes that Nobody could have had a noisier Christmas Eve. And when the firemen turned off the hose and were standing in the wet, smoky room, Jim's Aunt, Miss. Prothero, came downstairs and peered in at them. Jim and I waited, very quietly, to hear what she would say to them. She said the right thing, always. She looked at the three tall firemen in their shining helmets, standing among the smoke and cinders and dissolving snowballs, and she said, "Would you like anything to read?" My thanks to you for your efforts to keep the 'pedia readable in case the firemen chose one of our articles :-) Best wishes to you and yours and happy editing in 2019. MarnetteD|Talk 07:42, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Polygonal fort article

Would you mind if I added "See also" with Star fort and Seacoast defense in the United States? Also "Further reading" with Weaver II, John R. (2018). A Legacy in Brick and Stone: American Coastal Defense Forts of the Third System, 1816-1867, 2nd Ed. McLean, VA: Redoubt Press. ISBN 978-1-7323916-1-1. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help). This is about the best book on the American Third System available, the period in which the US built most of its polygonal forts. RobDuch (talk) 22:16, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Feel free RobDuch, although the "star fort" article has been renamed "bastion fort" (I'm guilty of that I'm afraid) and is already linked in the first section. BTW, that's another article that needs re-writing. The Weaver book looks intriguing but may have to wait for Father Christmas to come next year! Alansplodge (talk) 23:22, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

I'm in touch with Mr. Weaver on FB. The 2nd edition of his book is available in black and white paperback on Lulu.com for $39.95; he also has a color hardbound edition that so far must be ordered from him. It's much expanded from the first edition, with many more photos and illustrations. RobDuch (talk) 21:05, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you kindly. Alansplodge (talk) 23:06, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

• @Alansplodge: I just saw that you rewrote this article from scratch. It badly needed a rewrite, but I'm disappointed that you did not include any mention of the forts/batteries in Malta at all in the article. The opening sentence of the article is inaccurate: "A polygonal fort is a type of fortification originating in Germany in the first half of the 19th century." As is stated in the article, the system originated from the French (Montalembert) but became popular in Germany. I believe Fort Tigné (designed by a French engineer) should be mentioned as an early example of the polygonal fort system put into practice. You also removed mention of the British fortifications built in Malta between the 1870s and the 1900s, and I believe that these are notable - in particular Fort Saint Rocco deserves a mention. --Xwejnusgozo (talk) 00:35, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your message Xwejnusgozo. The problem I have is that Fort Tigné is not mentioned in any of the sources that I could find. Every work on the history of fortification says that Montalembert was ignored in France but highly regarded in Prussia and Austria. It is certain that the Prussians were the first to use polygonal forts in any kind of systematic way. I agree that the early Prussian forts had a marked similarity to Tigné, but finding a reliable source which says so has eluded me. I am unable to access the website given as a reference for this point in the Fort Tigné article. It is unclear to me that the British forts on Malta represented any particular advance over those built elsewhere, but should you find a good source which says so, I will happily add it in. There were literally hundreds of polygonal forts built in continental Europe between 1850 and 1880, so picking out the milestones was something of a difficultly. Perhaps 19th century fortifications of Malta would make a good article? Alansplodge (talk) 20:14, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

@Alansplodge: Thanks for your reply. :) There is a very detailed work about Fort Tigné available online on Issuu here. It is written by military historian Stephen C. Spiteri, and while it does not mention the Prussian forts it does mention Montalembert's influence. Notably, the source also mentions the Lunette d'Arçon, which was built in France in 1791 and which also seems to be a prototype of the polygonal fortification system (although it cannot be considered as a true polygonal fort, given that it is only an outwork of the fortress of Mont-Dauphin). I think Tigné's significance lies in the fact that apart from being one of the earliest polygonal forts to be built, it seems to have been the first such fortification to fall into the hands of the British, and its design seems to have inspired other similar fortifications elsewhere: a battery built on Anholt in 1812, and Fort George on Vido in 1825 (source: page 55 here). This source also mentions Fort Saint Rocco and the 19th-century British forts of Malta as well, although it doesn't seem to point out their particular significance in the wider context of military architecture at the time. For now, these fortresses are covered in the "British fortifications" section of the Fortifications of Malta article; if I have time, I might write an article specifically about them.

I therefore believe that Lunette d'Arçon and Fort Tigné should be mentioned in the article, with the Anholt battery and Fort George perhaps deserving a passing mention as well (I'm hesitant to do such changes myself because the article is quite detailed and while I do have some basic knowledge of fortifications, I'm far from an expert and I think it would be better if these changes are done by the original editor).

While looking for these sources, I realized that the website I used as the main source for most of the articles I wrote about Malta's fortifications (MilitaryArchitecture.com) no longer exists, so I have to recheck many sources in different articles, including that of Fort Tigné (most of the website does not seem to be archived). :( --Xwejnusgozo (talk) 21:51, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your work Xwejnusgozo, those are great references. I have amended the Theories of Montalembert and Carnot section with a new paragraph describing d'Arcon's lunettes and Fort Tigné. I have also amended the lead paragraph as you suggest. There may be more to come when I have read the rest! Thanks again, Alansplodge (talk) 18:29, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for editing the article. All the best! :) --Xwejnusgozo (talk) 18:35, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Help updating Girl Scout Cookies

I'm working on some updates to the article for Girl Scout Cookies, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of activity over there. I have a COI with the Girl Scouts of the USA, and I saw you're a fairly active member of WP:SCOUT and I was hoping you could take a look. If you've got the time, would you mind checking it out? I'd really appreciate it.--FacultiesIntact (talk) 20:08, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

London vs. Westminster

Currently that appears twice in the Humanities Ref. Desk section... AnonMoos (talk) 14:05, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

D'oh! Thanks AnonMoos, now corrected. Trying to multi-task never works for me... Alansplodge (talk) 16:58, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

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I've gone ahead and modified the rangeblock after discussion with the blocking admin. You should be able to edit now. If you still can't please try clearing your cookies. SQL^{Query me!} 20:17, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you most kindly User:SQL! Editing from my phone is no fun. My office has just changed their IT provider, so that's probably put the spanner in the works. Alansplodge (talk) 20:22, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Cheers

Damon Runyon's short story "Dancing Dan's Christmas" is a fun read if you have the time. Right from the start it extols the virtues of the hot Tom and Jerry This hot Tom and Jerry is an old-time drink that is once used by one and all in this country to celebrate Christmas with, and in fact it is once so popular that many people think Christmas is invented only to furnish an excuse for hot Tom and Jerry, although of course this is by no means true. No matter what concoction is your favorite to imbibe during this festive season I would like to toast you with it and to thank you for all your work here at the 'pedia this past year. Best wishes for your 2020 as well A. MarnetteD|Talk 19:37, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Thank you kindly User:MarnetteD and a very merry Christmas to your good self. I liked the story very much but had to read it to myself in an execrable New York accent so that it made sense. I'm afraid Tom and Jerry doesn't sound very appetising to me, but I have a pint bottle of Hobgoblin to hand with which to toast your good health. Alansplodge (talk) 20:15, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

You are welcome A. The Hobgoblin looks pretty yummy. Thanks for making me aware of it :-) MarnetteD|Talk 21:26, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Boog DRZW and outrageous prices

If you can send me an e-mail address, I might be able to help you with that. Keith-264 (talk) 11:13, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

The Great Britain/Ireland Destubathon

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QF

Hi Alan, just a quicky, what does QF mean in things like QF 4-inch naval gun Mk XXIII? Thanks, DuncanHill (talk) 19:29, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

DuncanHill see Quick-firing gun. Alansplodge (talk) 19:32, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, I don't think I've seen it spelt out anywhere before. DuncanHill (talk) 19:36, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

DuncanHill, I have added a wikilink in the lead of QF 4-inch naval gun Mk XXIII which I was responsible for. The others will have to wait for a rainy day! Alansplodge (talk) 19:41, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

I'm sure I asked on a talk page of one of them ages ago, but blowed if I can remember which! I assume BL is breech-loading? DuncanHill (talk) 19:44, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

DuncanHill correct and going back a bit, ML is muzzle-loading, but more often seen is RML, the slightly more advanced Rifled muzzle loader. Alansplodge (talk) 19:50, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks again, DuncanHill (talk) 19:52, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

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Child's height to adult's height

I've just calculated Mary-Kate Olsen's height from age 18 to 8 by 6.3 cm with a calculator, the height site etoolsage and a chart in Microsofts Word & Powerpoint and it seems she might've been 37 inches (94 cm) taller, 38.6 inches (98 cm) smaller than Bob Saget. And when Bob kneels down to Mary-Kate, he's about (divided by 2) 37.8 inches (96 cm). Have a look at those two images 1 & 2. 86.134.123.138 (talk) 19:45, 11 April 2020 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Miscellaneous#Child's_height_to_adult's_height

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In the 4th episode of the final season of The Tudors, the letter about Catherine's sexual relationship with Dereham was delivered to the king. And in the next episode when the king asked Edward Seymour what the letter says, he did not read it in full and was not read in voice-over either. He just said "The letter accuses Queen Catherine of dissolute living before her marriage to your majesty." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities#Henry_VIII's_letter_about_Catherine_Howard's_adultery) 86.129.17.70 (talk) 20:38, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Young Princess Mary never getting married

In the TV series The Tudors, Mary (played by 16-18 year old Sarah Bolger) remained unmarried from toddler to the age of 30 at the end of the series. In the first few episodes of season 1, she was to be married to King Francis' son but was declined. She was then betrothed to Charles of Spain but declined as well. In the final episode of season 3, she fell in love with Philip of Bavaria but he was sent away, which broked her heart. In the first few episodes of season 4, Catherine Howard was surprised that Mary was still not married and she broke down in tears with Eustace Chapuys comforting her when she realised she will probably never get married. And in the final episode, the ghost of her mother tells Henry that Mary ought to be a long time married by now and have her own children. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities#Young_Princess_Mary_never_getting_married) 86.129.17.70 (talk) 19:29, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, but unfortunately, we can't use a costume drama as a reliable source, no matter how accurate it might be. Alansplodge (talk) 12:18, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

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—— Gosh that was quick! many thanks from an Old Leytonian. I may have a bash at Walnut Tree House next... Alansplodge (talk) 18:53, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

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Just to mention, that heraldry stuff is spreading all over the food chain https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=167th_Infantry_Regiment_(United_States)&diff=prev&oldid=967355809. Is that facebook link to be considered a valid primary source ? --Askedonty (talk) 19:46, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Askedonty, looks like a bit of a hornet's nest. I have added an tag and raised a query at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Military_history#Alabama_Flag_controversy. Regards, Alansplodge (talk) 15:20, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

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Colchester Town Hall

Hi - I had it in mind to create an article on Colchester Town Hall and use some of the excellent material which you have added to the Colchester article. I hope you are OK with that. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 11:30, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Dormskirk, more than welcome! It's a fascinating building. I take it that you've seen Commons Category:Colchester Town Hall? Alansplodge (talk) 13:02, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Great. Many thanks for that. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 13:08, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Humanities ref. desk

Why did you insert a "no" into Baseball_Bugs' comment? -- [7]... AnonMoos (talk) 09:04, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Gosh. I was editing from a touchscreen device that I'm not really familiar with and can only assume it was a slip of a finger. I will revert, thanks for sharing. Alansplodge (talk) 08:47, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

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You added an apostrophe in the middle of a word in Clarityfiend's comment. AnonMoos (talk) 13:45, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Apologies again AnonMoos, I think it must have been a mistake with the number lock on my laptop. Alansplodge (talk)

John Bright

Hi Alan, thought you might like to know I bought the copy from Abebooks, and now the John Bright pamphlet is available on Wikisource, Commons, and Internet Archive. All the best, DuncanHill (talk) 00:29, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

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Thank you Buckshot06, you're far too kind. Alansplodge (talk) 10:35, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

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The article could do with a "description" section. Mjroots (talk) 06:38, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

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St Gregory's Church

Just wanted to drop you a line to say I really enjoyed reading the article about St Gregory's Church in Sudbury. Nice work! Yakikaki (talk) 15:21, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words Yakikaki, I had fun writing it. Alansplodge (talk) 15:24, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Head's up regarding problematic placement of a ref desk post

Hey Alan: I just wanted to let you know that I removed one of your comments here: not because I found the commentary objectionable or problematic in itself, but because I think you placed it in the wrong location (maybe even the wrong thread) on accident. It bisected one of my posts, confusing the proper attribution of part of it. I presume this was unintentional, but if not, you should know this is not permitted under WP:TPG and WP:INDENT, as it causes all manner of disruptive knock-on effects to discussions. Anyway, I deleted the comment on that basis, but wanted to let you know in case you needed to move it to another thread/level of the conversation. :) Snow ^{let's rap} 06:53, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

No problem User:Snow Rise. It was a bit rushed and I thought they were two separate posts. I had wrongly assumed that the OP was trying to find a way of not taking a religious oath, when actually he was planning to try and discredit the basis of religious oaths while in court. More careful editing required in future. Alansplodge (talk) 10:51, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, that same distinction was also why I took a moment to respond myself: technically/kinda-sorta any response to his question actually might justifiably be considered legal advice (albeit of a very narrow and procedural sort) and I try to be very scrupulous in following the RefDesk proscriptions on that sort of advice (as with the medical advice). That said, the trajectory they were on in their approach to that situation was like a train wreck in slow motion, and I decided that, prohibition or no, it is probably pretty non-controversial to tell them "Talk to the court staff if you have concerns about the oath" and "don't piss off the court by using a pro forma procedure as an excuse to get up on a soapbox about the influence of religion on American legal formalities". Though of course I couched it a bit differently. Anyway, thanks Alan, for the attention to the matter! Snow ^{let's rap} 12:22, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

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An editor came browsing...

I was just looking through some old RefDesk material (I can't for the life of me remember who Newbolt's "He Fell Among Thieves" is about, tho' I should, he's in one of Hopkirk's or Keay's books), I came across this thread, in which I recall my Granny Tompkins reciting "The Highwayman" from memory, and later you mention Chesterton's Donkey. That reminded me that Granny used to recite it, or the last verse at least, to donkeys that she met. "For I also had my hour;/ One far fierce hour and sweet:/ There was a shout about my ears,/ And palms before my feet". Hope you're well, DuncanHill (talk) 03:04, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Duncan. We learned "The Donkey" in the penultimate year of junior school and I can still recite the whole thing 55 years later. Perhaps I identified with the poor old donkey a little bit. Alansplodge (talk) 15:05, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

"He Fell Among Thieves" was George W. Hayward by the way. Have added both a collected Newbolt and a recent biography of Hayward to my library as a result. DuncanHill (talk) 21:20, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

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		For your hard work expanding Coronation of George III and Charlotte. It is now a thorough, well-written, decently lengthy article. Good work all round. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 20:05, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Many thanks Tim O'Doherty; what a pleasant surrise! There's still more to come, so I'll ping you when I'm done. Alansplodge (talk) 22:38, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

You are very welcome! I was looking at Georgian coronation articles because I'm working on George II's in my sandbox, and was stunned to find the prose had doubled since my last visit. Looked through it and found it to be really well written, and so popped in a thanks because it was really helpful in terms of structure. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 22:43, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Tim O'Doherty - some of the refrence links I have added refer to George II's coronation as well. A really good source that you can't read online is Roy Strong's Coronation; I got mine fairly cheaply on Amazon. Alansplodge (talk) 22:52, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the information. I'll have a look, seeing as right now it does depend quite heavily on one source. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 22:55, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Tim O'Doherty I was wrong, you can "borrow" Strong's book at https://archive.org/details/coronationfrom8t0000stro - you have to open a free account but it's not difficult. Alansplodge (talk) 22:59, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks very much, you've just saved me £11! Tim O'Doherty (talk) 23:00, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

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First use of davits claim

There wasn't any whaling off Greenland "around 1600". You must be referring to whaling off Spitsbergen from 1611 onwards. Did your source give an actual date or location? BulbousCow (talk) 05:44, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks BulbousCow; I have taken the liberty of moving this to Talk:Davit so that other editors can contribute. Alansplodge (talk) 15:55, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

"Coronation of George II of Great Britain and Caroline"

Hi Alansplodge - just a heads-up: I'm not sure if you remember, but shortly before Christmas I was working on an article on George II's coronation in my sandbox. I hope to get it published just after Easter - if you'd like to look over or add anything, feel free to. Cheers, Tim O'Doherty (talk) 18:12, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Apologies for the delay Tim. Some suggested additions (in no particular order) to the "Music" subsection as follows:

• The appointment of Handel to compose the main elements of the music and to direct its performance was an innovation; in all previous coronations, the role had been given to the Composer of the Chapel Royal. This was probably caused by the death of the holder of that role, William Croft, on 14 August of that year. His successor, Maurice Greene, had no previous experience with the Chapel Royal and the king is said to have forbidden him to compose for the event and given the job to Handel, who had no official status at court. Handel is said to have had only four weeks to complete the task. Range 2012, pp. 131-132
• A contemporary newspaper report states that there was a choir of 40 and a full orchestra of 160 musicians, although an official source give the total number of musicians, choir and orchestra, as 185. They were accomodated in temporary galleries over and above the altar. Range 2012, pp. 157-158
• This is the first coronation for which public rehearsals of the music were held and the first for which the printed sheet music was published. Handel also frequently reused the music from his coronation anthems in his later works. Range 2012, pp. 159-160
• There is little surviving information on the other music used during the service. The entrance anthem, I was glad, probably the setting written by Francis Pigott, seems to have been omitted by accident. A setting of the Te Deum was stated to be by "Gibbons", probably Orlando Gibbons rather than his brothers, Edward or Ellis, or his son, Christopher, who were also composers. Range 2012, pp. 281-282
• Range, Matthias (2012). Music and Ceremonial at British Coronations: From James I to Elizabeth II. Cambridge University Press. ISBN 978-1-107-02344-4.

Useful link: Coronation anthem#Handel's coronation anthems - maybe added to the lead paragraph.

Please feel free to use, paraphrase or ignore any or all of the above. Also note that there are no references given for the "Procession" section, which somebody is bound to pull you up on. You should put something in, even if it means repeating a later reference. BTW, you don't have to repeat the whole citation, just (for example) "Pettingal 1760, p. 17" or whatever. Otherwise, it looks pretty sound to me, well done. Unusually, there don't seem to be any amusing anecdotes about this coronation, apart from forgetting to sing one of the anthems. Alansplodge (talk) 16:00, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for this Alan - likewise, apologies for the delay. The "Procession" section was a nightmare as practically every street name in London has been modified since 1727. I'll be sure to add some references, as it is in Pettingal's pamphlet. Sorry about the misunderstanding of I was glad, as I'd assumed that that was what they were singing on George and Caroline's entrances, as per tradition. Feel free to edit it yourself if you want to: Wikipedia is a collaborative effort, after all. I'm just hoping to get it done before Charles III's coronation, as no doubt there will be a lot of public interest in coronations past by then. I'll try to get most of your above information included. Cheers, Tim O'Doherty (talk) 10:38, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

@Alansplodge: I'm going to publish it into mainspace shortly. If you'd like to edit it further, you can edit it there. Cheers, Tim O'Doherty (talk) 15:33, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

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On 6 May 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Coronation of George II and Caroline, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that during her coronation, Caroline of Ansbach's dress was reportedly so covered in jewels that she required a pulley to lift her skirt for her to kneel? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Coronation of George II of Great Britain and Caroline. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Coronation of George II and Caroline), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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The Bishop of Winchester spoke Middle English, but when I tried to find his original words, not only did I fail to find them, but I also could not find an identification of a work of his in which this is found. The earliest mention I spotted is from Robert Winder (2017), The Last Wolf: the Hidden Springs of Englishness, p. 155,^[9] which does not identify the provenance.

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Thanks Lambiam, I have added my support to your proposal; there's too many pointless "what makes you think that?" type of replies.

It's curious that there's no provenance for that quote; I found it from 2007 on this forum, but it may be read as just a contributor expanding on Wykham's "manners maketh man" quote. Pity, I thought it was rather good. Alansplodge (talk) 13:08, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Yes, on that forum it looks like an extended paraphrase in response to the query what the expression means. The text of the response does not suggest the longer sentence is a quotation. As stated here, in Wykeham's day manners meant more than a collection of well-oiled externals and extended to all conduct testifying to a person's character.  --Lambiam 14:05, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

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If this applies to you, please feel free to copy the barnstar to you talk page, barnstar page etc. as appropriate. Well done all. Mjroots (talk) 05:58, 8 May 2023 (UTC) Alansplodge (talk) 17:07, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

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Dvienadsat Apostolov

I've done a pretty thorough overhaul of the article, although all the bones were pretty much already in place. Citations in the infobox are pretty much to be avoided, so I expanded the description to cover the armament a bit more. There's still a bit more detailed information in the lede than I'd prefer; remember that it's supposed to be a summary of the whole article. So I'd suggest moving the details about the scuttling to the main body and just saying that she was scuttled in early 1855 in the lede. I'm not a fan of full-title cites in the main body for books, so I moved them into a new bibliography section. Feel free to revert if you dislike my changes; it's your article and you have the right to set the format, not me. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 09:43, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

Many thanks Sturmvogel 66, that's perfect. Agree with your changes and will look at slimming-down the lead (it's a bit of a balancing act, some editors like to go about puffing them out). Thanks again; Alansplodge (talk) 17:34, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

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