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Good articleBell Boeing V-22 Osprey has been listed as one of the Engineering and technology good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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June 22, 2010Good article nomineeListed
July 16, 2010WikiProject peer reviewReviewed
Current status: Good article

More accurate detail

Under Variant/CV-22B/last line Change: The CV-22 replaced the MH-53 Pave Low. To: The CV-22B replaced the MH-53 Pave Low. 2603:7081:3E07:782B:7989:A821:55C7:21C5 (talk) 02:05, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 9 December 2022

It is written that: "Because of the requirement for folding rotors, their 38-foot (11.6 m) diameter is 5 feet (1.5 m) less than optimal for vertical takeoff, resulting in high disk loading.[105]"

Unfortunately that source [105] nowhere states that. And also by an engineering point of view that claim doesn't make any sense: there's no universal "optimal" disk loading, each rotorcraft has its own optimal disk loading according to its mission. 95.91.254.251 (talk) 21:50, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done The source states "the Osprey’s rotors are 38 feet in diameter — about five feet less than would have been optimum for an aircraft designed to carry 24 Marines and take off vertically at a maximum gross weight of 52,600 lbs., according to engineers who helped design it." Loafiewa (talk) 22:02, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 10 December 2022

Regarding my edit request of the 9th December:

firstly, oops sorry I really didn't see that sentence; secondly, can then please the full sentence be copied over i.e. with the "in respect to an aircraft designed to carry 24 Marines and take off vertically at a maximum gross weight of 52,600 lbs". A comparison without a term of comparison doesn't make much sense.

Thanks 2A02:3033:408:5169:758B:75BD:3879:E7BA (talk) 09:34, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. BilCat (talk) 10:16, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Error in this article

This article contains the text "[these powertrain improvements] should also improve reliability in high-altitude, high-heat conditions and boost maximum payload limitations from 6,000 to 8,000 shp"

The final part of this phrase implies that "maximum payload" is measured in shaft horsepower (shp). That is nonsense. I believe that what is meant is that the powertrain improvements will increase the available shp, which in turn will increase the maximum payload. 2A00:23EE:2300:3A36:1FD:973D:E357:91CF (talk) 18:04, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely. Rather disappointing that nobody has remedied this. 146.199.81.84 (talk) 22:36, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your suggestion. When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to change it. We encourage you to be bold in updating pages, because wikis like ours develop faster when everybody edits. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. You can always preview your edits before you publish them or test them out in the sandbox. If you need additional help, check out our getting started page or ask the friendly folks at the Teahouse. BilCat (talk) 22:43, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 22 May 2023

163411- V22A in storage at Hickory Aviation Museum, Hickory NC. Wings/engines/tail were removed before transport from former location. Tacco40 (talk) 19:51, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Tacco40: Please provide a source to support this change. Sources are needed per WP:Verify. -Fnlayson (talk) 20:26, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Typo Mistake: BuNo is 163911. I am a volunteer and Webmaster/Social Media director at the Museum and look at the fuselage every day I am there. If that's not good enough, then ignore my change suggestion, there is no written articles or links to supply, I do not have it on the museum website because it's used for storage. I can send a photo of the fuselage. Tacco40 (talk) 20:49, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 29 Aug 2023

Hull losses and fatalities need to be consistent between this article and Accidents and incidents involving the V-22 Osprey. 139.218.233.166 (talk) 05:12, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

DIRCM

I added that the Osprey has DIRCM capability in the "Specifictions" section and this was deleted. Why? The MV-22B does have DIRCM capability according to: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/32309/osprey-rear-ramps-and-carrier-aircraft-elevators-make-for-great-fast-rope-training 2.25.65.76 (talk) 08:16, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No source was added IN the article to support that addition per WP:Cite and WP:Verify. -Fnlayson (talk) 15:14, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I just gave a source here. So why wasn't my edit restored? Bloody hell, what is wrong with established Wikipedians? It's not hard to Google something to check if it's true or not. But no, instead someone just deletes the edit without checking if it's true or not. So much for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Be_bold — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.25.65.76 (talk) 19:40, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
And a few questions Fnlayson: (1) If a source is absolutely required, why does Wikipedia let people submit an edit without a source? That makes absolutely no sense. It would be easy enough technologically speaking to require an editor to provide a source before allowing the edit to be submitted. And this would avoid this whole submission-deletion farce in the first place. (2) Apart from MY edit, ALL the other entries in the Specifications>Avionics section of this article lack sources. So why did my CORRECT edit get deleted, yet all the others with NO sources get accepted? That is totally illogical and utterly inconsistent. (3) If it was you who deleted my edit, why didn't you apologise and restore my edit that you incorrectly deleted? (4) Why didn't you do a little Googling instead of deleting my edit? Or at the very least give me the benefit of the doubt? But nope, my edit got deleted. Are YOU here to build an encyclopedia? Seemingly not, if it was you who deleted my edit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Here_to_build_an_encyclopedia

Entries lacking souces

All the following enties lack sources:

AN/ARC-182 VHF/UHF radio KY-58 VHF/UHF encryption ANDVT HF encryption AN/AAR-47 Missile Approach Warning System AN/AYK-14 Mission Computers APQ-168 Multifunction radar

I'm not saying they're wrong, but what I AM saying is that sources are required. 2.25.65.76 (talk) 11:19, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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