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GTA VI

The page must be officially moved with the title of Grand Theft Auto VI, in recent days it appeared on Metacritic with this title officially confirming the name of the game. Shin Kurogane (talk) 17:10, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't an official source; we should we wait until info from Rockstar themselves surfaces. SuperWikiBrother (talk) 17:35, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Rockstar have announced the game but only referred to it as "the next Grand Theft Auto". Until the title is confirmed to be Grand Theft Auto VI we cannot change it. AlienChex (talk) 21:33, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
confirmation that the game will be called Grand Theft Auto VI, the page should be moved. Thomediter (talk) 21:59, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
An anonymous Reddit thread is not "confirmation". – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 22:14, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
True, and I meant to delete it, because I realized that it seems like a single case, but it's interesting nonetheless and I'll try to see if I can dig into this Thomediter (talk) 22:16, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's certainly interesting if true, but ultimately has little impact on this article unless reliable sources consider it notable—and I assume we'll have official confirmation in less than 16 hours anyway. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 22:18, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
F*cking h*ll, but can we at least move the page now. Thomediter (talk) 22:55, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There was just a trailer leak confirming the title and such, “Grand Theft Auto VI” so idk if it can be up updated til its officially
shown tomorrow 67.84.50.183 (talk) 23:07, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

trailer just got released by rockstar — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.98.231.64 (talk) 01:50, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

Since the game is apparently about to be (re)announced, should the infobox be unhidden once the name (likely to be GTA VI) is revealed? RodRabelo7 (talk) 04:40, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We'll just have to wait and see exactly what is announced. The name alone isn't enough to justify the infobox, in my opinion, but we may learn more than that. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 04:42, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Grand Theft Auto VI/6

I think this page should be moved to a new page called Grand Theft Auto VI/6 in early December since it's official that the game trailer will be announced next month in early December. WrestleLuxury Wiki (talk) 15:13, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Game Trailer has been announced, but the name of the game hasn't. SRG372 (Talk • Edits) 17:16, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
We should wait until the trailer releases. Lostfan333 (talk) 19:53, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
i mean it's obviously gonna be gta 6 lol, but i agree with y'all we should wait till December, what if the game actually turns out to be gta chinatown wars 2 or gta 5 toaster edition lmao WrestleLuxury Wiki (talk) 16:59, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
For one, we do not know whether they will call the game "Grand Theft Auto VI" or "Grand Theft Auto 6". Maybe it will be a Red Dead Redemption 2 situation where a Roman numeral is on the cover but all texts use the Arabic one. Maybe they will give it a more unique subtitle. Even if the game will likely not end up being called "gta chinatown wars 2 or gta 5 toaster edition lmao", we are in no rush to give the article a name the product does not yet have. IceWelder [✉] 17:27, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 8 November 2023

Change the spelling of instalment to installment Kdassharma7 (talk) 18:24, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: The article is written in British English where the preferred spelling is instalment. SRG372 (Talk • Edits) 18:32, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Considering it is a game developed by an American video game publisher, it would be more logical to write in American English. 12u (talk) 12:04, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The series is primarily developed by a British studio, leading to the consistency here. I wouldn't say the game has particularly strong national ties either, at least not based on the publisher's headquarters alone. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 12:22, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah Rockstar North is Scottish and exists to parody America, something that’s increasingly hard to do. It’s ironic you think the game actually glamorises America to a degree everyone should prescribe to American customs. Coronaverification (talk) 22:29, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 9 November 2023

Add either a subsection or section detailing the current events ongoing with Rockstar Games announcing the plans to rollout the trailer for the next Grand Theft Auto in December of 2023. Planeman77 (talk) 04:32, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: The information is already in the article. An additional subsection for a single sentence is unnecessary. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 04:33, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Most liked video game tweet

Rockstar announcement tweet is apparently the most liked video game tweet ever to date. In my opinion, this should be included in the article, though I have only found a WP:METRO source stating this and it ain’t considered reliable as far as I can tell. Is Eurogamer considered reliable? It seems very serious to me. 2804:14D:5C32:4673:F749:2FC4:FA8F:6F1B (talk) 06:18, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

For a huge list of which video game sources are, and aren't, reliable, see Wikipedia:VG/RS - X201 (talk) 08:16, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Done with some additional references—definitely seems notable enough for at least a brief mention. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 06:38, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I can already tell this game will break records. 81.169.0.200 (talk) 07:20, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 18 November 2023

Uhhh… I don’t know how to say this because it’s kind of embarrassingly obvious, but y’all spelled installment wrong. 129.237.90.183 (talk) 06:55, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As explained above, the article uses British English; "instalment" is correct. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 06:59, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 20 November 2023

Adding this source: "https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/ak73k92o47ko75/grand-theft-auto-community-update"

to this statement:"Rockstar confirmed in February 2022 that the game is in development."

In this article: "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untitled_Grand_Theft_Auto_game" Ralfidogg (talk) 20:31, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: The statement is already sufficiently sourced. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 21:12, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 1 December 2023

On the 1st of December, 2023. Rockstar makes an announcement in regards to the first trailer of the new alleged Grand Theft Auto 6. The first trailer will apparently be released on the 5th of December, 2023 at 9 A.M EST. 72.17.37.250 (talk) 15:24, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Already done, already in the article. (Third paragraph of Development section.) RodRabelo7 (talk) 17:15, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

another leak

apparently it has been leaked once again. see https://dotesports.com/gta/news/rockstar-games-devs-son-may-be-getting-grounded-soon-over-alleged-gta-6-leak (dot esports is considered reliable) 2804:388:4118:FB55:1:0:CB82:180B (talk) 20:01, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.eurogamer.net/gta-6-tiktok-leak-has-come-from-the-son-of-a-rockstar-games-employee 2804:388:4118:FB55:1:0:CB82:180B (talk) 21:13, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Not confirmed. The source even states that. Mike Allen 00:50, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The person who just Leak the Trailer already got suspended. --Happiness is Simple (talk) 23:22, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

alternate title for the article

I think it should be titled "next GTA", instead of "untitled GTA". Even Rockstar is calling it "next". МетроГол (talk) 12:47, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The current format is the common one for this kind of topic, so I don't feel there is a need for moving. Besides, we will have the proper name in just two days. IceWelder [✉] 13:24, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, unnecessary since we’ll be getting an official name in two days. RodRabelo7 (talk) 16:27, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Agree, wait 2 days.— Crumpled Fire • contribs • 18:18, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Other studios/publishers are delaying their own game releases due to the trailer release

Major publisher Paradox Interactive announced that they were delaying the launch of their new Stellaris Nexus game by 1 week, stating "The Stellaris Nexus team was prepared for comet sightings, but no one was prepared for GTA VI dropping a trailer on our release day!"

This seems like it may be worthy of a mention on the page; Paradox and Stellaris are well known and established brands, yet are completely yielding the spotlight for that entire week and delaying it's own games release

https://x.com/PdxInteractive/status/1731675189270704273?s=20 Moore4Nate (talk) 21:25, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Trailer

The trailer was released early, it is officially titled "Grand Theft Auto VI" Asknaffffwiki (talk) 23:20, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Page title changed Troutfarm27 (Talk) 23:24, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Split the leak to its own page?

Should it be split then? Ebbedlila (talk) 23:31, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see why; the article isn't especially long. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 23:32, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I’d say wait. 2804:14D:5C32:4673:FA44:E018:E404:A9FA (talk) 00:31, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Change the "Leak" heading to "September 2022 leak"

There's been more leaks since then, so since this section only discusses the September 2022 leak, the heading should be adjusted to reflect that. Ayvacs (talk) 00:10, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jason

So I’ve re-added a note by @Skyshifter about Jason’s (yet to be confirmed) name. @Rhain was the one responsible for removing it. Opening a discussion to reach a consensus here. RodRabelo7 (talk) 02:25, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think people reading the article want information on Lucia's partner, including his name, and it seemed pretty valid to include a note saying that Jason (widely believed to be his name due to the September 2022 leaks) isn't confirmed. Skyshifter talk 02:30, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 5 December 2023

Add RAGE engine to the info page, and fix typo "instalment" to "installment" LoadingYourData101 (talk) 02:29, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. "Instalment" is not a typo; the article uses British English. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 02:32, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
LoadingYourData101, this is an edit request; please consider not using the imperative, thank you. Drmies (talk) 02:34, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Countless people use imperative for their edit requests (even on this very talk page), I don't understand why you felt the need to comment that specifically here. Skyshifter talk 02:51, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In this article: a powertripping Wikipedian

Wikipedia user @Rhain, whose bio claims to have significantly contributed to every video game article under the sun is throwing a hissy fit against users who attempt to correct "instalment" to "installment." I thought this was particularly weird, considering both the game and the developer making it is by-and-large from the United States. So I checked his profile, and lo and behold, he is a British Wikipedian essentially claiming he made all the contributions to this article, and preventing people from changing the word to American English. He has even input code in the article warning people not to change it. I urge some higher power reading this to put an end to this nonsense. Wikentromere (talk) 07:06, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Per the many previous discussions, this article uses British English. Interestingly, most of Rockstar—including the lead studio behind the Grand Theft Auto series—is actually British. Per MOS:RETAIN, "An article should not be edited or renamed simply to switch from one variety of English to another". And, since you brought up my nationality (not that it matters), I use Australian English, not British. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 07:35, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
To add onto this: Rockstar North, the creator and principal developer of the series, is based in Edinburgh, Scotland. Scotland is in the UK, not the US. This would be relevant if we considered the location of the developer as a strong national tie that determines the used spelling variety and date format, but we don't. Hence, RETAIN applies as Rhain cited above. Since this is a recurring issue, however, I chose to exchange "instalment" with "entry", which is equally valid but has no grounds for warring whatsoever. IceWelder [✉] 08:38, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If only we had an article that explained the history of Rockstar Games and all its studios. - X201 (talk) 08:47, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Let the record show that Wikientromere is a self-proclaimed "stubbornly proud natural-born citizen of the United States" accusing others of patriotic dogma over the spelling of a word on a Wikipedia article. We (those who have contributed regularly to GTA-related pages) are exhausted having to retread this tired dissension. IceWelder, thank you for taking the onus to go with "entry". Wikientromere, given you're so passionately assured in your patriotism, why don't start you start a WP:RfC on the issue and state your case for overturning the status quo there? — CR4ZE (T • C) 10:03, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
OMG! Keep calm both of you. 2804:388:A02F:4A07:0:50:C16D:2C01 (talk) 12:22, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

How do we know it'll release on Xbox Series X/PS5?

Are there any citations that it'll release on Xbox or Playstation. Can somebody cite that source? Fujimotofan235 (talk) 14:00, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Platforms were confirmed last night in a press release by Take-Two (see citation 42). Also, Rockstar just confirmed the platforms themselves. Prefall 14:13, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 5 December 2023 (2)

Platforms are not confirmed yet, please do not spread misleading information to the fans. 2A02:A58:8412:AD00:8CFE:D4DE:5D35:1500 (talk) 14:06, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Platforms were confirmed last night in a press release by Take-Two (see citation 42). Also, Rockstar just confirmed the platforms themselves. Prefall 14:12, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 5 December 2023 (3)

Add the official trailer as a source (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdBZY2fkU-0) Ducky1440 (talk) 15:09, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done. All necessary info is covered by reliable, secondary sources. We do not need the video as a separate reference. IceWelder [✉] 15:11, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Setting heading

there's currently a lot of duplicate info between the intro paragraph and the "Setting" heading. i feel like this will have its place once we learn more about the game, but does it make sense to have this heading currently? Pdubs.94 (talk) 15:30, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

“Action-adventure game”

Dumb question: what’s the source for this? RodRabelo7 (talk) 16:13, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 5 December 2023 (4)

Request to link the Norwegian Wikipedia page for "Grand Theft Auto VI" to the same pages in other languages. Currently, these interlanguage links are not established, and it seems that changes on Wikidata are required to achieve this, which I do not have permission to do. The purpose of linking these pages is to facilitate easier navigation between different language versions and to ensure consistency in the content across these versions. Mixeb (talk) 16:25, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done at Wikidata. IceWelder [✉] 19:31, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note B is arguably incorrect

The note describes certain female characters as the protagonists of their games. It is honestly arguable as to whether or not they count as such. Like Lucia is very clearly shown to be much more of a main character than the others and I think the distinction is significant. Polargrizbear (talk) 17:31, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The note is not WP:OR. It is all sourced, and it is, after all, only a note. Readers are usually not dumb and know that GTA I and II were very small compared to GTA VI. RodRabelo7 (talk) 18:20, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Rockstar Studios or Rockstar North

All other studios are too small to develop a game with a 2B budget besides Rockstar North. But for now we can use Rockstar Studios as a substitute as other studios may be involved.

Thoughts Coronaverification (talk) 20:43, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:OR RodRabelo7 (talk) 21:14, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Again, Rockstar North are the publishers. See. If you want to speculate and ironically WP:OR then we can use Rockstar Studios. Coronaverification (talk) 21:51, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Rockstar North are the primary developers* and are responsible for the GTA franchise. Coronaverification (talk) 21:52, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Please provide a source. Seek consensus here before reverting again; see WP:BRD. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 21:59, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You don’t need to provide a source for something that is public knowledge. — Part of the Rockstar Games family since 1999, Rockstar North is home to the ground-breaking Grand Theft Auto Series. Coronaverification (talk) 22:01, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, we do require a source. Whether it is Rockstar North or Studios is still unclear. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 22:03, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think it’s more unlikely that, if you know the history of DMA Design, the development rights were handed over to another studio randomly just because of a long wait before releases. This is just common sense. Coronaverification (talk) 22:04, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The Rockstar North homepage satisfies all 4 source requirements and some. Coronaverification (talk) 22:07, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Common sense" is not a source. We haven't had a new GTA game in a decade, and Rockstar's development process has significantly changed in that time. Rockstar North's website makes no mention of VI. Until it's clear and reliably sourced, there's no reason to add anything to the article. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 22:08, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This is complete speculation. Nothing has changed in that time regarding the Scottish studios responsibility over the IP they started as DMA Design, and if so, there would be extensive media coverage and the developers website would be updated to reflect that, furthermore, whilst Take-Two refers to Rockstar Studios there has never been a GTA game that hasn’t had external help, so it’s either Rockstar North or Rockstar Studios. Both are valid. Coronaverification (talk) 22:13, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
A reply to this was deleted saying both are valid so why not use studios. I tried. I’ve tried both and they keep getting reverted. Stop reverting without research and something to put to the table. Coronaverification (talk) 22:18, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's clear that Rockstar have shifted to an all-hands-on-deck structure in the last decade and their credits have begun to reflect that. North could still be the lead studio on VI and not be credited as the developer, like they once were. Plus, if North were indeed credited, they likely would have been mentioned in either the trailer, the press release, or other marketing materials that have been released, which Rockstar have historically done. The fact that they're silent on this indicates to me that this is another group-credited project that does not require distinction.
Regardless, none of our opinions on this subject matter. If we do not have a reliable source explicitly stating the developer of VI, then it should not be included. Prefall 22:33, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sauce for the claim “likely would have been mentioned in either the trailer, the press release, or other marketing materials that have been released, which Rockstar have historically done.” Coronaverification (talk) 23:13, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
there's nothing on the R* North homepage even mentioning this game. the TakeTwo press release only calls out Rockstar Studios Pdubs.94 (talk) 22:09, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The press release does not mention any developer. Rockstar North is part of the development with 99.99% certainty, but as long as there is no source in regards to the developer credit, we will have to leave it out. IceWelder [✉] 00:34, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Footage is singular

this is super nit-picky but don't want to be accused of edit warring. the intro section currently states the "footage from early development versions were leaked online" but this is not correct - "footage" is singular in this context. if you want to use "were", it should say "pieces of footage were...." Pdubs.94 (talk) 21:25, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"50 minutes of footage" is plural, however. IceWelder [✉] 00:35, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
not exactly. it is indeed correct to use were under the Development section (not the intro that I was talking about), but for a slightly different reason than what you state. it's because of the 90 videos at the beginning of the sentence that was becomes were, not because of the 50 minutes.
90 videos [showing 50 minutes of work-in-progress game footage] were leaked ---> 90 videos [ ] were leaked.
i hope this doesn't come off as argumentative, just trying to provide some context Pdubs.94 (talk) 00:55, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lone dependent clause error

The quote: "Set within the fictional state of Leonida, based on Florida, including its Miami-inspired Vice City, and other cities." It should be joined with the next sentence or reworded. 71.191.129.137 (talk) 21:57, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. “Located in the fictional state of Leonida, modeled after Florida, the setting encompasses Vice City, reminiscent of Miami, along with various other cities.” Coronaverification (talk) 21:59, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That’s thanks to the incredible edit war @Coronaverification is engaged in right now! It’s probably fixed now. RodRabelo7 (talk) 21:59, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Always assume good faith Coronaverification (talk) 22:03, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

what external links should be included? i see that an IMDB entry has been added. there does not appear to be consistency between GTA titles, but most only include a link to the official website. other articles about rockstar titles (such as red dead) also appear inconsistent. Pdubs.94 (talk) 22:02, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

See guidance at WP:ELMINOFFICIAL. IceWelder [✉] 00:36, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
thank you. this is good guidance Pdubs.94 (talk) 00:56, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Untitled Grand Theft Auto game" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Untitled Grand Theft Auto game has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 5 § Untitled Grand Theft Auto game until a consensus is reached. Isla 🏳️‍⚧ 22:03, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Leonida reference

The Spanish version of this article mentions that Leonida is a reference to Juan Ponce de León, Spanish discoverer and ruler of Spanish Florida. Is this worth including? This is the source they provide: https://www.hobbyconsolas.com/noticias/gta-6-revela-importante-cambio-respecto-vice-city-original-saga-1345836 Pdubs.94 (talk) 23:44, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What to use

What should we use for the infobox? The promotional poster or the official game logo? Quettagon (talk) 01:24, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

#BanGTA6 movement

There's trend going on Twitter/X stating to Ban GTA 6 TheProWrestlingFanatic (talk) 02:15, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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