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re 'Elevators'

" ... mechanically operated ... "? Aren't all elevators in bldgs? Should the wordage be 'manually operated'? 149.20.203.67 (talk) 22:10, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Building ranking lists don't make sense

The entry currently says "seventh-tallest building in New York City, the ninth-tallest completed skyscraper in the United States, the 54th-tallest in the world, and the sixth-tallest freestanding structure in the Americas." There is no way this can be the 6th-tallest freestanding structure in all the Americas if it also only the 7th-tallest in just NY and the ninth-tallest in the US. All skyscrapers are freestanding structures SFAIK. I think this just means that the freestanding structure list has quite a lot of new skyscrapers missing from it. Maybe the best thing to do is just remove that mention, although of course one could spend a lot of time updating and merging the lists so that they actually make sense, then update the entry with the correct ranking. Wookey (talk) 23:33, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I was wondering about this too, but apparently it seems to be correct. The spire is the 6th-tallest in the Americas at 1,454 feet, which would beat even NYC's third-tallest building, 111 West 57th Street. But the roof, which is only 1,250 feet high, is shorter than six other structures in NYC.

I do doubt the methodology that's being used here, though, because 1 WTC's spire is being counted in the List of tallest buildings in New York City, but the Empire State Building's spire isn't. As a result, the comparison might be a bit flawed, and I agree that we should probably remove the mention of freestanding structures. – Epicgenius (talk) 23:47, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

User:Epicgenius you are confusing pinnacle with architectural height. The architectural height of the ESB is 1,250 ft, and for 1WTC is 1,776 ft. The pinnacle height for the ESB is 1,454 ft, and for 1WTC is 1,792 ft at present. Pinnacle height includes things like antennas that can be swapped out. In fact the ESB's antenna has been swapped out as prior to 1985 it was 1,472 ft to its pinnacle, a value still sometimes erroneously reported in sources. Whereas architectural height includes permanent elements of the skyscraper only. Roof-height was previously often used as a standard in lieu of architectural height to avoid this confusing, however it poses many dilemmas when dealing with structures that do not have flat roofs such as the Burj Khalifa (where do floors end and spires begin?), and so has largely fallen by the wayside as a standard. 71.62.176.24 (talk) 22:58, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Can someone add, under the light show section, about the controversy about showing Eagles colors after their win the AFC champsionshop? Source: https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/empire-state-building-lights-eagles-green-colors-fans-reaction-new-york-super-bowl 98.113.8.17 (talk) 20:30, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: not a significant event over the building's long-term history. $ɱ$ (talk) 20:45, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Really? It seemed to have received a substantial media blowup, and it seems appropriate. (I’d add it to the NFL playoff article expect they don’t seem to have an “aftermath” section. --98.113.8.17 (talk) 20:55, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. This is so stupid. Who cares? A one-night color change in support of the wrong team in a sports game. So?

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(talk) 21:00, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:25, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Empire State building

what would happened if a plane when into the buliding 209.226.37.5 (talk) 15:53, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]