Talk:HMS Experiment (1784)/GA1

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Reviewer: Hog Farm (talk · contribs) 05:02, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

I'll review this over the coming days. Hog Farm _Talk 05:02, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

• Is there a better link for lazarette in the lead? The current link is for a part of a ship, but the context is of a type of ship

• Changed.

• Do any of the sources say why Experiment would have been named as such, since she seems to have been built to an established design?

• At this point the name was just another occasionally reused by the RN; Manning & Walker only note for the name that "Experiment - the name dates from about 1667".

• Is it explicitly stated in the sources why it took so long to get her ready for commissioning? I'm assuming peacetime cost-cutting for a vessel that was now essentially obsolete, but it would be nice to be able to say so directly if the sources allow

• Not that I can find. It was very common for this to happen; if a ship built for a war wasn't finished until after it, the ship would be left in ordinary. It took 13 years, for example, for Victory to be put into commission.

• "In the following year Experiment participated in operations to capture Martinique and Guadeloupe" - is this as a transport, a store ship, or an active combatant vessel?

• Clarified.

• So the British were trying to dump deportees onto the Spanish, who didn't want the influx of population, so the British attacked the Spanish garrison? I think another sentence or two of context would be useful there

• Reworded - the two nations were at war in the Anglo-Spanish War and as such it's more like the capture of the island and then the landing of the deportees.

• "While en route she came across a Spanish fleet of merchant ships sailing from Cartagena, capturing eight of nine. Barrett unloaded three of these into the other vessels, and took the remaining five on to Halifax" - were the three who were unloaded then burned/sunk?

• Sources don't specify; think it probable that the other ships were left for the Spanish crews to sail home in.

• do the sources indicate what use/scrapping occurred after the sale?

• They do not.

• "The Royal Navy: A History from the Earliest Times to the Preset" - should this be "present", instead of "preset"

• Oops!

Like with Endymion - could you please provides quotes from the sources if possible for the following spot-checks of sources:

• Several of Experiment's small boats were however used as landing craft for the operation, embarking soldiers from another troop ship

• "One of these ships was the Hermione, a converted frigate carrying 280 men of the Welch Fusiliers. Hoisted out alongside were her own flatboat, launch, and two row boats; but to complete her embarkation she was allotted two flatboats, two launches, and four rowboats from the Dido, Experiment, and Regulus, three troopships whose soldiers were not part of the assault wave."

• From December she then served, still en flute, as the guard ship at Lymington.

• "then returned to England 11.1803 as guardship (en flûte) at Lymington 12.1803 – 1.1805"

• The historian William Laird Clowes picks out Lieutenant John Barrett, the commander of Experiment at the time, as one of the naval officers who distinguished themselves during this period

• "In these operations, the British naval officers who, in addition to Lieutenant Barrett, most conspicuously distinguished themselves, were..."

Placing on hold; no major concerns here. Hog Farm _Talk 20:07, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

@Hog Farm: Hi, thanks for taking a look at this, I've responded above. If you so celebrate, Merry Christmas! Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 21:03, 24 December 2023 (UTC)