Talk:Barbie

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Miyatsuka, Fumiko (April 2011). バービーと私 [Barbie and Me] (in Japanese). Akishobo. ISBN 978-4750511054. (Details in English)

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Regarding this

"In 2020, Mattel sold $1.35 billion worth of Barbie dolls and accessories, and this was their best sales growth in two decades. This is an increase from the $950 million the brand sold during 2017."

Can this be removed? The Bloomberg source cites Mattel's annual reports but I can't find where this is info is mentioned in those reports. Timur9008 (talk) 14:38, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

User:Paper9oll What do you think? Timur9008 (talk) 13:03, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

the doll of the judge is so important it requires a mention in the lede section

regarding this reversion: the state judiciary is incredibly relevant in the context of women’s history and at least two cast members (Ana Cruz Kayne^[1] and America Ferrera^[2]) of the 2023 film have publicly discussed the depiction of women in the judiciary in the Barbie franchise and its relationship to the Roe v. Wade and Dobbs v. Jackson decisions. in my view, this merits a mention at the minimum. isadora of ibiza (talk) 21:51, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The WP:LEAD is a summary, it should not include things that are not discussed later on in the article.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:19, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Supreme Court Justice Barbie Says It's 'So Important' to Talk About Abortion 1 Year After Roe v. Wade Decision (Exclusive)". The Messenger. Retrieved 14 October 2023.
^ "I would take the all female Supreme Court". Retrieved 14 October 2023.

yes, Barbie generates revenue, not Mattel

i understand the instinct behind this change. but there is a certain subtlety here: Barbie is not a single product, but a gestalt system of related products and services. it is not incorrect per-se to say Mattel generates the revenue. but it is more informative to say that Barbie generates the revenue. it is like saying iPhone generates much of its revenue from smartphone sales and app store fees. you could also say Apple generates the revenue. but why say that and not iPhone?

isadora of ibiza (talk) 06:15, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Re this edit: the wording is unencyclopedic. Barbie is a plastic toy doll, not a real person. Mattel is the company that makes the money.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:16, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

i’m well aware Barbie is not a real person, and it seems you have a somewhat incorrect assumption of what i am trying to argue here. let’s replace Barbie with something less entangled in the current culture war, like Epcot. the Walt Disney Company is the company that owns Epcot. the Walt Disney Company is the company that makes all the money. but the Walt Disney Company makes money from a lot of different properties besides Epcot. it’s not really helpful to the reader to frame everything about Epcot in the context of the Walt Disney Company. and if you take a look at the article for Epcot, in the lead section it says:

In 2019, Epcot hosted 12.444 million guests, ranking it as the fourth-most-visited theme park in North America and the seventh-most-visited theme park in the world.

it does not say

In 2019, The Walt Disney Company hosted 12.444 million guests at Epcot, ranking it as the fourth-most-visited theme park in North America and the seventh-most-visited theme park in the world.

because Epcot is a business of sufficient complexity to be the subject of an article in its own right, and not just as a venture of the Walt Disney Company. you can observe similar wording in other systems of products, like iPhone. does this make sense?

isadora of ibiza (talk) 03:49, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Ok I would like to up date the barbie BobqwertQWERT BOB (talk) 22:42, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 23:00, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] "Supreme Court Justice Barbie Says It's 'So Important' to Talk About Abortion 1 Year After Roe v. Wade Decision (Exclusive)". The Messenger. Retrieved 14 October 2023.

[2] "I would take the all female Supreme Court". Retrieved 14 October 2023.

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