Talk:Sulaym ibn Qays

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Legacy

I removed the Legacy section, it's misleading and unreferenced. The Khoi cite claims that Sunnis narrated from Sulaym Ibn Qays in reliable collections but makes no citations as to which Sunni collections he's speaking of. In any case, even if Sulaym was narrated from, "The Book of Sulaym ibn Qays" which is purportedly his has nothing to do with the Sunni chains nor is the book mentioned by the Sulaym's alleged contemporaries or some of the earliest Muslim scholars. Furthermore, the link to the "playandlearn.org" website was also misleading as playandlearn similarily didn't cite a single Sunni source that allegedly transmits from Sulaym. In fact, the playandlearn link doesn't even discuss Sulaym as being found in Sunni collections and the passing reference made to Sunnis isn't about Sulaym but about some alleged narrations in Sunni collections concerning the Shi'a concept of Imamah. xx-Mohammad Mufti-xx 11:38, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

this is really strange...this person's existence was even questioned by Shi'i Ulema and Al Hilli even called his narrator ibn Ayash a liar and unreliable! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.35.132.13 (talk) 23:42, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This article is schizophrenic

It says some doubt about Sulaym Ibn Qayl Al Hilali existence though it quotes grounded sources about him having existed, the problem is deeper. Kitab Sulaym Ibn Qays is deeply controversial because both Sunnis (who obviously will oppose Shiism and anything related) and Shia scholars of the Rationalist school (quite a few) rejected this book for personal reasons. But the traditional scripture dating back to over a millenia of Imamiyyah/Twelver Islam always praised this book and the author.

Sulaym Ibn Qays is quoted in numerous Shia books as a narrator himself, Kitab al Kafi of Shaykh Kulayni among others. Shia muhaddiths and Shia scholars of the scripturalist school never denied his existence.

The book creates controversy because of the jealousy it created from its early development eon the contrary of other traditions and hadith collections. 2A02:8428:809E:6701:F075:995E:1F39:5153 (talk) 23:28, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]