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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Doug Weller (talk | contribs) at 20:25, 20 January 2024 (Why does this article read like a Politico "fact check" piece?: Reply). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.


The page currently includes "Hitler also used the term in 1928."[5]

The "[5]" links to https://archive.org/stream/pdfy-0IryYbwVIPGFodSS/Hitler%20-%20New%20World%20Order%20%281928%29_djvu.txt That file does not contain the term "New World Order". Nor does it contain the term "New Order" (which Hitler did use elsewhere). There are 168 references to "order".

It does discuss a hypothetical war between France and Germany, stating that France would be "under the protection of a new world coalition", so "Germany would be exposed to the concentrated attacks of all Western Europe."

Hitler did not write "new world coalition" (meaning "Western Europe") with the same meaning as "new world order". Hitler was not idealizing a new world order. The new world order was an impediment to his ambitions.

Should the inclusion of Hitler's 1928 writing be eliminated or stated differently on this page? Readers may think Hitler championed the idea of a New World Order, and for that reason we should fight against the New World Order. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caregiver (talkcontribs) 17:37, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why does this article read like a Politico "fact check" piece?

Language like "neither Franklin Roosevelt nor Harry S. Truman used the phrase "new world order" much when speaking publicly" sounds like it's trying really hard to disprove something, rather than actually explaining the concept as an encyclopedia would. And you people wonder why Wikipedia is mocked so harshly as a biased source of information. —Memotype::T 16:23, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Memotype Yes, mocked by those who don’t like mainstream sources, eg Creationists, conspiracy theorists, and those way over to the left or right politically. That’s no surprise. But this isn’t a page to discus’s Wikipedia or the Nee World Order (Politics), which is not about the conspiracy theory. Doug Weller talk 20:25, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]