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Wow, mobile browser editing really is bad
My usual device is not working, so I tried editing off of Safari (I did sign up for the NPP backlog drive, after all). Genuinely unusable. Probably going to take a break until it's fixed. DrowssapSMM 22:41, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- Calling @Folly Mox, who knows about editing on the mobile site. Unfortunately, there's no central noticeboard or other page where mobile-based editors congregate. WhatamIdoing (talk) 03:00, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- If Talk:List of stores that sell laptops wasn't a redlink that would be the obvious choice. jp×g🗯️ 10:42, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- Perhaps there could be - is this suitable for a project, or do they have to be about articles? Newystats (talk) 22:04, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- My experience (as a frequent iPhone user) is that m.wiki is very good for reading pages (better than Vector is on desktop, actually), serviceable for copyediting and projectspace discussions, and very bad for expanding articles (no tools like ProveIt for citations, and switching between the article and the sources is harder with mobile browser tabs). Vector 2010 holds up surprisingly well for editing, seeing as it wasn't mobile-optimized at all, but is a much worse reading experience. Mach61 (talk) 03:06, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- (responding to ping) I do like the mobile web experience for the most part, and don't really find any part of it particularly burdensome or uncomfortable. I've been a fully mobile editor since the death of my last computer in summer 2022, but I must confess almost complete unfamiliarity with most advanced editing tools. I've never applied for the NPP perm, but having a look at Special:NewPagesFeed just now, it seems essentially identical between Minerva and Vector 2022.There are, of course, some tasks that are more difficult: I can't run two browser windows sidey-side with a source in one and an open editing interface in another, but it is a bit more convenient that I can hold my phone flat against the opposing page of a physical book if I'm using one of those. Most scripts don't support Minerva, so I'll have to hop into desktop view if I want to use Rater or Prosesize or many functions of Twinkle, and the limited RAM of a mobile device has led me to uninstall scripts that have some utility because the additional javascript load times weren't worth it. And of course the input is typically a bit slower on a cell phone keyboard than the usual kind, but the predictive text helps to an extent (I never have managed to figure out swipe typing).Essentially though,
genuinely unusable
is so nonspecific and unactionable that I don't know what to say or how I could help. This reminds me of another recent complaint at VPI, which suggested the mobile frontend was "uncomfortable" without specifics or further elaboration. That's not a way to get functional help or to suggest software improvements. User:DrowssapSMM, I hope your computer gets fixed soon, but do you have any examples of specific tasks you were unable to complete using your mobile device, and what it was in particular that made them impossible for you? Folly Mox (talk) 12:33, 3 January 2024 (UTC)- @Folly Mox I edit a lot on an Android phone and find that I keep changing between different interfaces, voluntarily or involuntarily, to get different functionality: If I want to look at an editor's contributions I have to get their user page, opt for "Desktop view" and then look at the contributions list. If they haven't created a user page ... I have to find something they've edited, find a version which gives a "contribs" link alongside their username as part of the diff, etc. There is one ghastly state I sometimes fall into where the font size increases with every keystroke so it's very soon impossible to do anything at all and I have to abandon the edit.
- It seems impossible to contribute to some talk page discussions, I think Wikipedia Project talk pages mostly, though I can contribute to article and user talk pages. If I want to add to the end of the automatic edit summary after doing an "undo", I often struggle to scroll along to its end, if it's longer than the input box: sometimes it will move, sometimes not, possibly dependent on what scale Ive zoomed it to.
- It's altogether a somewhat unpredictable and stressful experience, but I keep on doing it because I can use the phone in places where I don't have my computer, such as sitting on the sofa, semi-sociably half-watching something on the television. PamD 17:08, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- PamD huh, I have encountered zero of those problems using Firefox on Android with "advanced" mode in my mobile preferences. Contribs are available at the page header of User: and User talk: pages, I can tap "read as a wiki page" to view and edit Wikipedia talk: conversations, and my typeface size has never increased outside a pinch zoom. I could see an Undo diff preview being uncomfortably long, but have never had a problem getting the screen to scroll. Folly Mox (talk) 17:18, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm, I use Firefox on desktop but Chrome on phone. Perhaps I should try Firefox on the phone. PamD 18:08, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- PamD huh, I have encountered zero of those problems using Firefox on Android with "advanced" mode in my mobile preferences. Contribs are available at the page header of User: and User talk: pages, I can tap "read as a wiki page" to view and edit Wikipedia talk: conversations, and my typeface size has never increased outside a pinch zoom. I could see an Undo diff preview being uncomfortably long, but have never had a problem getting the screen to scroll. Folly Mox (talk) 17:18, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- You might find this page useful: User:Cullen328/Smartphone editing. I do a lot of editing while mobile (such as now!) and I find the desktop version of Vector 2010 to be the best interface for it. Barnards.tar.gz (talk) 17:26, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- I mean, maybe, and I'm not sure of any other high profile mobile editing user essays, but the takeaway from the linked essay (briefly: desktop view, landscape orientation) is the exact opposite to how I edit, and I get on fine. It's really up to personal preference (and Special:Preferences) except in some edge cases, like viewing navboxes or the source of a fully protected template. Folly Mox (talk) 03:22, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Mobile editing is terrible, but for me even mobile reading (Samsung Galaxy A50, Chrome) is nearly impossible since a few weeks. And then there are the strange things on Mobile view even when seen on a desktop. E.g. the right side of the translate box at the top of this is a clear "show", while the same in mobile view has a "show" which for some reason fades out to the right. The watchlist in mobile uses way, way too many lines (4 or 5 per entry for no good reason), where "thank" is a too big button and "rollback" is a lot smaller and without a border (on desktop view they are nicely aligned and formatted).
This is simply brilliant. Above the diff, it shows the legend: "Content added" in a blue box, "Content deleted" in a yellow box. Below, the actual diff, shows content added against a green background, and content removed against a red background. Phew, good thing I had the legend... Oh, but perhaps because I look at it in Wikitext and not in Visual? Er, no, when I make that switch, the added text is shown against some green-bluish hue, not the same as the "content added" box at all, and the removed line is no longer visible.
Editing? I can't edit a complete page in mobile, if I use the "edit" pencil at the top I only get the lead. E.g. swapping two sections is not possible (or at the very least not intuitive) this way. Doing this in desktop mode is straightforward. Doing all this also reminded me of one of the reasons why Visual Editing is such a pain in the ass. Changing a short description in wikitext is "click edit, change shortdesc, save". Doing this in VE is "click edit, scroll up (!), click short desc icon, click edit again but now at the bottom, change shortdesc, save, save again because you only "saved" the template change". Fram (talk) 19:19, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- I use to edit using the mobile version on my phone a lot. ... no longer do so...instead I switch to desktop mode on my phone. There is a link at the very bottom of every page to change to desktop view and back. Moxy- 20:06, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- There's a script that will force the desktop version as well, useful if you're googling something and end up following a link back to Wikipedia. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 01:11, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- An "edit full page" option for mobile was added a few months ago, in the vertical ellipsis menu in the upper right, with the rest of the page tools. Swapping sections seems pretty identical (cut-paste). I don't see the same blue / yellow legend boxes in inline diff mode, which might be the result of a user preference. Folly Mox (talk) 03:18, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- I get the exact same look when I log out, so not the result of a user preference. Fram (talk) 09:39, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- After checking the linked diff logged out in three separate browsers, I haven't been able to view the "content added" / "content removed" legend in either source or visual mode, so it doesn't seem like it's one of my user preferences either. Folly Mox (talk) 12:11, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Looks like the legend hides if your device is 1000px wide or smaller. Which may explain why it hasn't been noticed that MobileFrontend overrides MediaWiki core's diff colors but not the colors in the legend. Compare this desktop diff (again, in a browser with a width >1000px) where the legend and colors do match. Anomie⚔ 12:38, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- After checking the linked diff logged out in three separate browsers, I haven't been able to view the "content added" / "content removed" legend in either source or visual mode, so it doesn't seem like it's one of my user preferences either. Folly Mox (talk) 12:11, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- I get the exact same look when I log out, so not the result of a user preference. Fram (talk) 09:39, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Seconding the concern that editing pages on mobile in Firefox gives a bizarre situation where editing the entire article only gives you the lead section. I figure this might be some weird user preference but it always annoys me a lot. In general, the mobile editing experience leaves a lot to be desired, although I'll confess I do not have a lot of concrete suggestions. It does seem like the mobile website downplays the editor-created nature of the site a lot (i.e. history and the like are often hidden). jp×g🗯️ 08:46, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- JPxG, the edit pencil at the top of an article opens only the lead. "Edit full page" is collapsed inside the vertical ellipsis menu in the upper right, along with Special:WhatLinksHere, Special:PageInfo, et al. This is a recent change (feels like second two thirds of 2023; I'll see if I can find the date). Folly Mox (talk) 12:40, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- 1 August, as part of MediaWiki 1.41/wmf.20, pursuant to phab:T203151, but apparently this option is only available if you enable "Advanced" mode in Special:MobileOptions. I think not having this mode enabled probably severely cripples the editing experience (link anchored to "1 August" above has the deets). Folly Mox (talk) 12:54, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- JPxG, the edit pencil at the top of an article opens only the lead. "Edit full page" is collapsed inside the vertical ellipsis menu in the upper right, along with Special:WhatLinksHere, Special:PageInfo, et al. This is a recent change (feels like second two thirds of 2023; I'll see if I can find the date). Folly Mox (talk) 12:40, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
Computer is fixed, so it doesn't really matter all that much anymore. I just couldn't deal with mobile diffs. DrowssapSMM 12:10, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Inline diffs can be um challenging to parse sometimes (scroll down in the linked mobile diff for the fun part). Folly Mox (talk) 13:57, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Screenshot added. Also note the ridiculously large footer (which extends further to the right than the actual page, poor layouting once again) Fram (talk) 12:23, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Another screenshot, showing the weird "show" (bottom right) fade out. Very artistic. Fram (talk) 12:28, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Separately from any issues with it, the mobile view has the appearance of something that is a decade or more out of date. I would hope the WMF are working to consolidate around one appearance that scales across devices and different screen sizes. Working on each separately at this point would be a waste of resources. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 19:45, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think I share that hope. Having one or more giant screen, with a keyboard + mouse input setup, and the ability to have multiple apps open in a single view, is a fundamentally different experience to a vertically oriented, cramped, "one app at a time", "long-press contextual menu instead of shortcut keys", "keyboard input necessarily occludes a non trivial portion of the screen" kinda situation.Also there are pretty big differences in system resources. I really should replace my phone soon, but my device memory is such that even if most gadgets and userscripts were supported in Minerva I'd still disable them due to the overhead of loading all the javascript. I only enable Twinkle if I have to restore an old revision or AfD an article.I'm sure that Minerva probably looks old and busted viewed full screen on a desktop monitor, but on a mobile device it does a good job giving the page contents most of the screen real estate and keeping the other elements out of the way until needed. Folly Mox (talk) 18:00, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- Minerva probably looks old and busted viewed full screen on a desktop monitor – before Vector 2022, before even Wikiwand, I understand that how to switch to Wikipedia's "secret" mobile view periodically made the rounds on social media. Reportedly, people thought it was easier to read. It's not my own personal favorite, but that doesn't mean those people are wrong. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:02, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- It's altogether possible that what looks "fine and normal" to me actually looks
a decade or more out of date
to younger eyes. That probably applies to most of the things I own and uh me. Folly Mox (talk) 23:21, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- It's altogether possible that what looks "fine and normal" to me actually looks
- Minerva probably looks old and busted viewed full screen on a desktop monitor – before Vector 2022, before even Wikiwand, I understand that how to switch to Wikipedia's "secret" mobile view periodically made the rounds on social media. Reportedly, people thought it was easier to read. It's not my own personal favorite, but that doesn't mean those people are wrong. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:02, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think I share that hope. Having one or more giant screen, with a keyboard + mouse input setup, and the ability to have multiple apps open in a single view, is a fundamentally different experience to a vertically oriented, cramped, "one app at a time", "long-press contextual menu instead of shortcut keys", "keyboard input necessarily occludes a non trivial portion of the screen" kinda situation.Also there are pretty big differences in system resources. I really should replace my phone soon, but my device memory is such that even if most gadgets and userscripts were supported in Minerva I'd still disable them due to the overhead of loading all the javascript. I only enable Twinkle if I have to restore an old revision or AfD an article.I'm sure that Minerva probably looks old and busted viewed full screen on a desktop monitor, but on a mobile device it does a good job giving the page contents most of the screen real estate and keeping the other elements out of the way until needed. Folly Mox (talk) 18:00, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
What to do when editors don't agree
Please see Wikipedia:Requests for comment/When there is no consensus either way and share your advice. Specifically, if editors genuinely can't agree one whether to include or exclude a fact in a given article, what principles or processes should they follow? WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:11, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
How would I get Turkish Wikipedia to have a news feed and request template
Hi, I am working on the wikifeeds service and fixing the feeds and hoping to add more features such as a news feed which isn't currently implemented on the wiki. I can probably copy a news request template from other wikis but I assume that the Turkish Wiki would need a bot to grab news from Turkish news media sources and place them in specifically named pages. I am just starting to look at the news feed capability and how it is implemented in other language wikis, but anyone with insights about this would be very helpful. SBailey (WMF) (talk) 21:45, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- @SBailey (WMF): probably better to ask this at WP:VPT, imho, the people there will understand the technical issues better. 🌺 Cremastra (talk) 21:51, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, I will check with WP:VPT
- Regards,
- Shannon SBailey (WMF) (talk) 22:05, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
Feminism and Folklore 2024
Dear Wiki Community,
You are humbly invited to organize the Feminism and Folklore 2024 writing competition from February 1, 2024, to March 31, 2024 on your local Wikipedia. This year, Feminism and Folklore will focus on feminism, women's issues, and gender-focused topics for the project, with a Wiki Loves Folklore gender gap focus and a folk culture theme on Wikipedia.
You can help Wikipedia's coverage of folklore from your area by writing or improving articles about things like folk festivals, folk dances, folk music, women and queer folklore figures, folk game athletes, women in mythology, women warriors in folklore, witches and witch hunting, fairy tales, and more. Users can help create new articles, expand or translate from a generated list of suggested articles.
Organisers are requested to work on the following action items to sign up their communities for the project:
- Create a page for the contest on the local wiki.
- Set up a campaign on CampWiz tool.
- Create the local list and mention the timeline and local and international prizes.
- Request local admins for site notice.
- Link the local page and the CampWiz link on the meta project page.
This year, the Wiki Loves Folklore Tech Team has introduced two new tools to enhance support for the campaign. These tools include the Article List Generator by Topic and CampWiz. The Article List Generator by Topic enables users to identify articles on the English Wikipedia that are not present in their native language Wikipedia. Users can customize their selection criteria, and the tool will present a table showcasing the missing articles along with suggested titles. Additionally, users have the option to download the list in both CSV and wikitable formats. Notably, the CampWiz tool will be employed for the project for the first time, empowering users to effectively host the project with a jury. Both tools are now available for use in the campaign. Click here to access these tools
Learn more about the contest and prizes on our project page. Feel free to contact us on our meta talk page or by email us if you need any assistance.
We look forward to your immense coordination.
Thank you and Best wishes,
--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:26, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
Wiki Loves Folklore is back!
Please help translate to other languages.
Dear Wiki Community, You are humbly invited to participate in the Wiki Loves Folklore 2024 an international photography contest organized on Wikimedia Commons to document folklore and intangible cultural heritage from different regions, including, folk creative activities and many more. It is held every year from the 1st of February till the 31st of March.
You can help in enriching the folklore documentation on Commons from your region by taking photos, audios, videos, and submitting them in this commons contest.
You can also organize a local contest in your country and support us in translating the project pages to help us spread the word in your native language.
Feel free to contact us on our project Talk page if you need any assistance.
Kind regards,
Wiki loves Folklore International Team
-- MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:26, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
Informing you about the Mental Health Resource Center and inviting any comments you may have
Hello all! I work in the Community Resilience and Sustainability team of the Wikimedia Foundation. The Mental Health Resource Center is a group of pages on Meta-wiki aimed at supporting the mental wellbeing of users in our community.
The Mental Health Resource Center launched in August 2023. The goal is to review the comments and suggestions to improve the Mental Health Resource Center each quarter. As there have not been many comments yet, I’d like to invite you to provide comments and resource suggestions as you are able to do so on the Mental Health Resource Center talk page. The hope is this resource expands over time to cover more languages and cultures. Thank you! Best, JKoerner (WMF) (talk) 21:45, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
Vote on the Charter for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee
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Hello all,
I am reaching out to you today to announce that the voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) Charter is now open. Community members may cast their vote and provide comments about the charter via SecurePoll now through 2 February 2024. Those of you who voiced your opinions during the development of the UCoC Enforcement Guidelines will find this process familiar.
The current version of the U4C Charter is on Meta-wiki with translations available.
Read the charter, go vote and share this note with others in your community. I can confidently say the U4C Building Committee looks forward to your participation.
On behalf of the UCoC Project team,
RamzyM (WMF) 18:08, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
Foreign policy of Germany
Requesting a new section: please see the discussion. --Pegasovagante (talk) 16:53, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- I have replied at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Germany#Foreign policy of the Scholz cabinet. Let's keep the discussion in one place. Remember that people have lives outside Wikipedia, and are in different time zones, so you may not get an immediate response. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:45, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
Copy Wikipedia website
I found Google Search these website are copy a webpage. I don't know for Wikimedia policy can copy or not.
- https://svizznuovo.net/?_=%2Fwiki%2FSpecial%3AMyContributions%23KJWqMdlUlBnuJaMCWRbpl47xcYAuFE2m
- https://decolasocial.com/?_=%2Fwiki%2FTalk%3AMicrosoft_Windows%230uin5ucbyOleodSFrE3Ig20Bb%2B96bPf4
47.234.198.142 (talk) 22:25, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- So long as the websites abide by the terms of the CC-BY-SA license, they're freely allowed to copy content. You may wish to add them to WP:Mirrors and forks Mach61 (talk) 22:43, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
Copyright, reliability, citogenesis and the relation between Wikipedia and professional encyclopedias where contributors are the same
Note I am an experienced Wikipedia contributor, reasonably familiar with copyright. I am also a scholar, my user page disclosses my real name and academic affiliation. But I am a bit stumped about the best practices in the following case.
I was recently invited to write some encyclopedic articles for a professional encyclopedia (non-profit, actually, and open access, but using traditional copyright: The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction). For some cases, those topics have only a poor article on Wikipedia, or none at all, so I would like to improve it here as well. There are some MoS differences, so the entry I write for us would not be identical to the one I will write for them - for example, they do not require footnotes, nor to they have lead or section headings), but obviously, there would be some overlap. Crucially, I don't want to waste time paraphrasing my own words, but I am also expecting they might be resistnat to the idea of using CC-BY-SA for my entry in their project. So question one is: is it possible for me, as the sole author of a text, to both put it on Wikipedia (as I usually do) but also to donate it to that other encyclopedia, where it would not be CC-BY-SA'ed? To avoid issues with CC, would I have to not publish my entry on Wikipedia until it is ready to be "forked" - because usually I work on an article over here over a period of days or weeks, and occasionally helpful editors make minor tweaks, but as soon as someone tweaks an entry, even fixing a single typo, I am not a sole author and I am bound by CC, right?
Second dimension to discuss. That encyclopedia is seen as RS and cited on Wikipedia. Regardless of whether they agree to use CC-BY-SA and attribute Wikipedia as one of the sources, how does that play with WP:CITOGENESIS? Will the entry I write for them be prohibited from use on Wikipedia, even through it goes through their peer review system (or editorial review)?
To add yet another wrinkle, that encyclopedia accepts original research claims (like all the others except, well, us). Again, they have internal review (they are a reliable, academic work). So if I publish vesion 1 on Wikipedia, and version 2 (with some OR), on their site, can this OR now be used on Wikipedia? Do I need to self-report it to COI first if I want to cite my own entry there for some claim? Do we need a RSN discussion to accept the use of such entries?
To give us some practical examples:
- case 1: I recently wrote and got to Good Article status the entry on Władysław Umiński. While I am the principal author of this (95%), any rewrite of this for SFE would have to be CC-BY-SA there, with attribution to Wikipedia. Fine. But I can obviously add some claims to SFE that would be ORish for Wikipedia. How to go about adding them to Wikipedia? Report my intention to COI and RSN...? Nobody bats an eyelid when SFE is used on Wikipedia as a source, but because this entry would be written by non-anonymous contributor, i.e., me, would all those extra steps be required? (If so, it seems like yet another case where by disclosing my identity on Wikipedia I open myself to more pain, here, COI review, which would not be needed if I were anonymous?)
- case 2: I am not sure if I'll be adding any OR to Umiński's SFE entry (would need to think more about that oone), but I would like to use SFE to finally add a claim to another of my Good Articles on Wikipedia, namely the one on hyperspace: that the color of hyperspace in the TV show Babylon 5 was red (or red-black). It still irks me that this fact has no reliable source out there, and I intend to ask SFE to allow me to revise that entry. And actually, I recall numerous discussion with a fellow sf editor, User:TompaDompa, about sysbias issues in our sf entries - we often think that certian examples or arguments should be made, but they are never made in RS (for example, disucssion of non-English classics). Working with SFE (which, again, has editorial peer review) would allow us to improve such entries, by adding content to SFE, then citing it at Wikipedia. But then, again, should one go through COI and RSN here each time? It seems somewhat ridcolous...
- case 3: Let's say they balk at the use of CC-BY-SA. Fine. I itend to improve some stubby bios of Polish sci-fi writers, for us and them. Ex. Jarosław Grzędowicz. I can write something from scratch, but I don't want to do this twice. If the text is published at SFE with full copyright, can I, as the sole author, simoultanesly use it on Wikipedia under CC-BY-SA? And, sigh, once again, would I need to deal with COI and RSN each and every time?
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:08, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- To answer copyright issues: As the author you can put the content on both encyclopedias. However you should prove that you are the same user / author on both encyclopedias, so on SFE you should have a statement that you are the same person as Piotrus on Wikipedia. Then anything you contribute on both is proved to have permission. Self citing is not a great idea and we tend to treat it as a form of promotion or advertising. So best not to put your own original ideas on Wikipedia in articles. If SFE is counted as a reliable source here, then you could use OR from there and reference it to SFE. however please consider whether it is TRUE, or just an opinion that needs attribution to an author. And just do that for other's writings rather than your own to avoid COI and own-idea promotion. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:10, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Wikimedia Foundation banner fundraising campaign in Malaysia
Dear all,
I would like to take the opportunity to inform you all about the upcoming annual Wikimedia Foundation banner fundraising campaign in Malaysia (on English Wikipedia).
The fundraising campaign will have two components.
- We will send emails to people who have previously donated from Malaysia. The emails are scheduled to be sent between the 13th of February to the 2nd of March.
- We will run banners for non-logged in users in Malaysia on English Wikipedia itself. The banners will run from the 28th of May to the 25th of June.
Prior to this, we are planning to run some tests, so you might see banners for 3-5 hours a couple of times before the campaign starts. This activity will ensure that our technical infrastructure works.
Here are some example banners. If you have any comments or suggestions on them, please get in touch with me or reply below:
Generally, before and during the campaign, you can contact us:
- On the talk page of the fundraising team
- If you need to report a bug or technical issue, please create a phabricator ticket
- If you see a donor on a talk page, VRT or social media having difficulties in donating, please refer them to donatewikimedia.org
Thanks you and regards, Julia JBrungs (WMF) (talk) 06:53, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Wikimedia Foundation banner fundraising campaign in South Africa
Dear all,
I would like to take the opportunity to inform you all about the upcoming annual Wikimedia Foundation banner fundraising campaign in South Africa.
The fundraising campaign will have two components.
- We will send emails to people who have previously donated from South Africa. The emails are scheduled to be sent between the 1st to 24th of May.
- We will run banners for non-logged in users in South Africa on English Wikipedia itself. The banners will run from the 28th of May to the 25th of June.
Prior to this, we are planning to run some tests, so you might see banners for 3-5 hours a couple of times before the campaign starts. This activity will ensure that our technical infrastructure works.
I am also sharing with you a community collaboration page, where we outline more details around the campaign, share some banner examples, and give you space to engage with the fundraising campaign.
We will also be hosting a community call, details are on the collaboration page, to which you can bring your questions and suggestions.
Generally, before and during the campaign, you can contact us:
- On the talk page of the fundraising team
- If you need to report a bug or technical issue, please create a phabricator ticket
- If you see a donor on a talk page, VRT or social media having difficulties in donating, please refer them to donatewikimedia.org
Thanks you and regards, Julia JBrungs (WMF) (talk) 07:16, 23 January 2024 (UTC)