Talk:Paul Rusesabagina

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Just wished the world was abundant with people like him. But since this is not the case, I guess that's why he is honoured. The world must be a really sick place where acts of humanity are seen as an exception rather than the rule.

Acts of heroism in the face of oppression is a responsibility to humanity, not a gift.

I deleted the original paragraphs I'd taken from HRO.org about Paul Rusesabagina and wrote up my own (well, after seeing Hotel Rwanda). I've still used a reference to hro.org but not because I've taken anything from there other than a single date.

I'm not sure how much cutting/pasting (like one date) constitutes a copyright infringement but I doubt if there's anything that could be considered copyrighted material in the Paul_Rusesabagina/temp page that I added.

I also have no real idea if this is where I was supposed to explain that, or if I'm just writing a note to myself here.

If anyone happens by, feel free to comment.

The new copyright-free material is at Paul_Rusesabagina/temp which I think is where it had to go because of the original screwup.

this was original poster but his post is deleted due to copyright i think. probably this page gets deleted also, but please someone write an article about this man.

Done - since I posted the new article it has been significantly expanded, which I'm grateful for since I didn't know much about Rusesabagina outside of Hotel Rwanda. Also, it would be nice if people signed their talk page comments, or at least gave a date. --Chrysaor 01:09, Feb 20, 2005 (UTC)

Foundation Site

I am the designer of the Rusesabgina Foundation site (www.rusesabaginafoundation.org) and also work at the agency that represents Paul for lecture engagements (www.apbspeakers.com). I'm looking for any input on the foundation site. It's still in the early stages of development and I'm just harvesting ideas. Thanks.

The foundation site link is appropriate for this article but the commercial pitch for the speakers' bureau is not. I've removed it. JamesMLane 17:54, 5 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Paul is dead?

I just wanted to know why this entry lists his death date of December 19, 2005. I can't find anything about his death on the web. I thought maybe all people are listed that way, but I clicked on several other live people, and they have no death date.

I removed the death date. No confirmation that he has died could be found, and I think we would have heard about it if he had died. --lenehey 209.172.118.16 18:18, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

He's most certainly alive. He's giving a lecture at the University of Oklahoma on September 27.--Syd Henderson 00:18, 26 September 2006

Paul is very much alive. in a week he will be giving my school a lecture on the hardships he faced during the genocide. Governor Mifflin Intermediate School- David George editor. reading Pa 19607 feb.21.2007

Cleanup

I've tried to tidy the English up a little. However, I don't know enough about the material to try to bring the article towards NPOV without risking material errors or oversights. The article definitely needs further work. --Tom Yates 09:25, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Movie discrepancies?

i like the notion of the first discrepancy, it makes sense, but the second about it taking two hours instead of two minutes for the discussion, that's not relevant, it's a movie, of course it's going to take longer in real life. in real life the whole series of events lasted longer than 2 hours the movie showed too, but we don't list that as a discrepancy because its common sense. its a true-to-life drama movie, not a documentary. -- paul

Commented-out Text

User 81.240.200.150 (talk · contribs) added[1] the following text in January. User:SimonP later commented it out with the annotation "This section makes no sense, and needs to be rewritten". I've removed it from the article and put it here for discussion.

Rusesabagina claimed he left because of the continuous threats he received from Hutus. They wanted to shoot him at one o'clock in the afternoon in the company of his daughters and had already blocked the street with vehicles. When they approached him from both sides with guns, people in the neighbourhood threw stones at them and screamed for help. This way he survived one of many death threats. His wife was intimidated too and the Hutus knew everything about them. The Rusesabaginas fled towards Brussels, Belgium, but returned back to Kigali in March 1994. It was obvious that there was trouble in the air, but still they returned because they considered it their moral duty; moreover, the Arusha accords had been signed and many UN troops had arrived in the country. One of the UN commanders was General Roméo Dallaire.

Cheers, CWC(talk) 18:47, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"abusing his popularity"

User 140.254.53.7 (talk · contribs) recently added the following text to the article, just after the lead paragraph. It seems POV to me, so I've moved it here for discussion.

It must be mentioned that through out his tour and speech he portrays Rwanda as being unsafe "No justice", this is his political agenda, this man is using and abusing his popularity for political dispute, instead of goodwill toward humanitarian. Also, this knowledge of the history of Rwanda is questionable and incorrect, there NEVER was slavery of Hutus during post colonialism, there was however a King in power and the citizens are to obey the king regardless. History as we know repeats its self, as he says himself. But we also know that history is made and writen by people. History is told by those remaining and those who have succeeded, and told in their own ways and opinions. Paul does not tell the story as it is, he is trying to participate in the making of history by confusing the whole world and sending the wrong message.

Any thoughts? CWC(talk) 18:52, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The content and message of that paragraph is highly POV, the wording is totally unencyclopedic. You were right to remove it from the article. --Uwe 18:27, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Whose adopted nieces?

The lead paragraph says that Mr Rusesabagina "currently lives in Belgium with his children and their adopted nieces." It's not immediately clear to me who adopted whom. Could someone clarify this, please? Thanks, CWC(talk) 18:58, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The movie "Hotel Rwanda" says that Paul Rusesabagina adopted the daughters of Tatiana's brother Thomas and his wife Fedens. Like Tatiana, both were Tutsis. The were never found, so they were most probably killed during the genocide. --Uwe 19:55, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Are Paul R. and Tatiana still together? If so, we should say something like he "and his wife currently live in Belgium with their children and their adopted nieces". CWC(talk) 04:14, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that a "where are they no?" type section would be a nice addition. I'll look into it. Right now I'm working on cleaning up the Rwandan genocide article. Lisapollison 13:51, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

General Roméo Dallaire

There are a few sentences about General Roméo Dallaire in this article, and I think that this information is covered quite well in the Rwanda Genocide article and the article on the general himself. I don't know whether this information belongs in this article as well. NHammen

I agree. As they were not related to Rusesabagina, I removed them.

Estimates of genocide victims

It should be noted that 900,000 dead from the Rwandan Genocide is the high estimate. Chucklebean hello pal rusesabagina is not dead he is verry much alive i know it to im verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry shure of it he does lots of speaches at war and stuff like that he rocks he has a loada guts to save all them tutsis

trial against him and controversy on his rôle

I notice that the article about Hotel Rwanda includes this paragraph:

According to the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times [[2]] , Paul Rusesabagina is being sued by over 100 people who were in Hotel de Mille Collines during the genocide for distorting the truth of events. Current Rwandan President Paul Kagame has claimed the hotel was spared because Hutu militants wanted to use the refugees there to exchange for hostages held by the Tutsi rebel forces. The people who used the hotel as a refuge accuse Mr. Rusesabagina of exaggerating his role in the genocide for profit.

The sources seem more than respectable but I still would like some input before adding this to a living person's biographie. It really feels bad to hurt a hero's image; but I guess reading an encyclopedia is also about learning that the world is more complex than a film (it was said in the other article that the hotel seemed to have been spared by hutus to use it's inhabitant as exchange with the tutsi rebels). Anyway, hat I am waiting for here is comment on the reliability of this material (I certainly will add it if it's true). Aleph42 01:04, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]