User talk:Grey Wanderer/Archive 1

Adding St. Louis as Missouri's largest MSA

Please stop reverting this article. There was a large argument about this before, and it was resolved not to put the largest MSA in the infobox. If you continue, I will tell an administrator and you will be locked from editing. I realize that you may have a strong opinion about this, but that is your opinion. If you wish to go around and tell everyone you know that St. Louis is larger-- that is your perogative. But the city of St. Louis is NOT larger than the city of Kansas City. Although the STL MSA is, there are too many factors and the figure is too indefinate. Putting MSA's in a statistical infobox like that is too controversial, because there is not a concensus anywhere about their level of importance. You said that they are of social importance, but in encyclopedias, that does not matter-- only factual information, and in this case only government recognized areas should be listed. An MSA is not. There are other states like Texas and Tenesee that do NOT list Metroplitan areas, despite the fact that they are in a similar situation to St. Louis. Again, there was a long argument on this before, and it was agreed to eliminate the MSA from Missouri's infobox, as long as it was clearly indicated in the text of the article that St. Louis has a larger metropolitan area. Again, remember that wikipedia is trying to be professional, and other encyclopedias like Encarta and World Book only put the information about the largest city. Maps are the same way-- they indicate the size of a city's "dot" by the city population, not metropolitan area. You may find this rediculous, but your opinion alone not backed up by an argument or facts other than your argument of "most people use metroplitan areas instead of cities" is not sufficient enough to change this article.

WikProject Columbia, Missouri

Nice to be on board. Hope to make good changes! Tubahero 22:17, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Image:Mizzou MemorialUnion.jpg

I don't think cropping someone else's image (even leaving the original metadata) count's as "creating" as you stated on Image:Mizzou MemorialUnion Tall.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevehrowe2 (talk • contribs) 03:35, 16 December, 2006 (UTC)

In my opinion that was the best way to state it. I felt that I would be intruding if I gave the credit to you, because some photographers are very touchy about their work and a major change such as only using part of a picture might be found offensive. I created that version of it, from the picture you uploaded in the public domain (I admire that picture by the way). To state that "'I created this work..."' is the only option that works. On wikipedia when uploading a picture that is under the category of all rights explicitly released by author the only other options are copyright expired and not covered by copyright. If, however, you would like to give yourself credit for the work, then edit the page to say that. You might also remove your vandalism. Grey Wanderer 23:44, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

I have no problem with your using the picture or even editing it, but on first look, it looks like you are taking credit for work that you didn't do. I think it would be fair to simply leave the image un-captioned. and sorry for the extra text on each one, but I wanted to get your attention. Stevehrowe2

Hows that? I just always like to put as much information about what I upload onto wiki, just so everyone knows its not copyrighted, I didn't really expect anyone to look at that page, since its not a terribly busy article. Grey Wanderer 01:09, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and, I wouldn't leave it un-captioned, just because un-captioned pictures immediately flag a copyright violation in some peoples minds. Grey Wanderer 01:14, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

University of Missouri System

Hello, I recognize that you are not necessarily trying to stir stuff up, but you really shouldn't have made the redirection changes to the University of Missouri without some discussion first. I just now noticed that it was changed, or I would have said something sooner. I'm a Mizzou grad, so I'm not playing favorites, but I'm not so sure that University of Missouri should redirect to the Mizzou article rather than the system article. I won't argue with you about moving it to the "system" title, though.

Would you care to change it back and/or introduce some discussion on the appropriate talk page? Thanks.—Lazytiger 15:33, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey, I understand your concerns completely, I made the change after realizing that there were a ton of links to "University of Missouri" that really meant MU and after doing some research found out that pages like:

University of Texas
University of Nebraska
University of Arkansas

all direct to the main campus. I'll put a blurb on both talk pages and see what comes of it, but I'll wait to revert anything until I hear back, because I had to change a lot of links to University of Missouri System. Thanks. Grey Wanderer | Talk 10:03, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

WP:AIV

Hi! I've just removed the IP address you added to WP:AIV. There have been no edits from that address for over 48 hours. IP addresses are frequently used by different people at different times, so blocking an address because of historic vandalism is often counter-productive. As it says in the big green box on the AIV page, please only report vandals that have vandalised in the last few hours. Thanks! --Tango 12:49, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

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thanks for the heads up

Hey Grey Wanderer!

We have read your comments posted to our talk page and we thank you very much for taking the time to help us understand Wikipedia! :) We are not that bright but we will do what we can to try to absorb these concepts!! :) Also, we admire your spunk and your willingness to try to bring us around! :) Since you said we could write you with questions, one additional question we have is whether you have an official role or if you are a self-appointed Wikipedia marshal! :) By whom were you appointed, oh Grey Wanderer? :) It's a fair question! :) We hope you are not offended by our inquiry! :) We're just trying to understand why you appear to be in charge of all the pages!! :) Hey, nothing personal!! Just an observation!! :) Maybe you are in law enforcement?? Or maybe a kindergarten teacher??!! :) If not, we think you should consider one of these! :) You'd be terrific!! If you have some official connection to Wikipedia or some official designation, I will shut up and never ask again!! Hey, thanks! Enjoy Wikipedia! Regards from us!Splitsville 02:05, 5 February 2007 (UTC)Splitsville

Oh geez

OK, Grey, I give up. You're too nice. You have resisted my complaints with nothing but patience and only minor condescension (ck. sp.). Clearly I am too personally attached to the page. Guilty as charged. You and Tubahero win this one. I will slink back into my e-bunker and find other ways to amuse myself than tweaking and following my beloved Troy, Missouri site ("my" meaning my interest, not a reference to ownership of the page! Even I know better than that). I hereby abandon all attachment to the page--sniff--sniff-- tear---Perhaps there is another page I could take an interest in. I'll poke around and see.

But Zachary Taylor DID fight in the Indian Wars of 1814 at Fort Cap au Gris, where the city (town) now stands. It is on the historical marker placed there by the Mo. Historical Society. Doesn't that count?

Oh well. I hope you were a Colts fan. Best wishes.Splitsville 04:26, 5 February 2007 (UTC)Splitsville

Regarding Notability and the LSHS article...

I saw that you had removed the addition of Matt Lewis as a notable alumni. If you are interested, I made a few notes about that on the article's talk page. --Reverend Loki 22:19, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

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Sorry, I didn't see the information on the image page. You need to forward your correspondence, with headers intact, to permissions at wikimedia dot org (note that it's wikimedia, not wikipedia). Make sure that the photographer clearly releases it under cc-by, and not just for use on Wikipedia. Cheers, Mak (talk) 06:13, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Homecoming Article

I'm trying to understand the mention of University of Missouri in the initial paragraph of the Homecoming article. The citation in the school newspaper admits that the claim is disputed. Why remove the mention of the other two schools that I added? or would we be better of not to mention any? IMO - the reference is not neutral at this point. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by IBqwerty (talk • contribs) 04:04, 17 March 2007 (UTC).

Forgot to sign.... my bad... IBqwerty 04:04, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

I'm a newbie on here... as I'm sure you can tell and am still trying to learn and understand the culture, functionality and intricacies of wikipedia. I have posted my thoughts on the Talk:Homecoming page as you suggested. Thanks for being patient with me while I get my bearings. IBqwerty 05:25, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Rock Bridge High School

Hello! I noticed you are from Columbia, Missori. I was wondering if you could assist me in editing the Rock Bridge High School article, as it is in need of significant work. I am going to try to work on it some, but I am very busy in real life, and may not have much time to work on it. I think that the article needs significant amounts of work to compare to the Hickman High School article, but that Rock Bridge is a significant enough part of columbia to deserve the attention!

Thanks in advance, Ninja! 17:40, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

  I can take a picture of the school or parts of it if nessecary. 
Additionaly, I think the schools website ([1])
has some good information and could possibly be used for citations.