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Pornographic image

My user talk page has been hit with a pornographic image and I can't get rid of it. Will some administrator do the necessary please, or I shall just have to leave Wikipedia. This has spoiled the experience for me! Eilthireach 19:16, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Today's explanation of "on"

I'm trying to write a paper based on a simple word and what it means to people, including has-meant over time.

The word is "on".

When someone says they're "on", what do they mean exactly?

russrobertson@usa.com

It depends on the context. On can be used as an adjective, adverb, or preposition. Little words like this are very difficult to pin down because they can mean so many things. (Prepositions in particular are notoriously difficult to translate.) You would probably have more luck with a different word. -Aranel ("Sarah") 18:09, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I can think of at least two meanings depending on context. If I say "I'm on penicillin" it means I'm currently taking that medication; "on cocaine" means the same. The phrase "I'm on" can also be in response to a suggestion indicating that I am ready and willing to participate in the suggested activity: Harry: "Let's go to the pub."; Tom: "I'm on"; Dick: "So am I" means all three will probably end up in the pub.

I don't mean to deviate much from the topic, but perhaps you could do a comparison between "on" and "off". I think there are a few fascinating colloquialisms using the word "off". For example, "The alarm is going off!" Well, the next step, obviously, is to turn it off. How would someone turn something off if it is already "off"? But we never hear someone say, "The alarm is going on!" But you could say, "The alarm is on". But that does not bring about the same mental picture of a loud buzzer or bell ringing. It sounds more like the alarm device is set to "ring" or "go off" whenever an event triggers it. Perhaps you should modify your request that suggests "on" is a "simple word". From what I have learned throughout my linguistic experience, the seemingly simple words are truly the most complicated. Zephlon 20:08, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

"The Oxford English Dictionary is the most comprehensive record of the English language, and its policy is to attempt to record all known uses and variants of a word in all varieties of English, worldwide, past and present." 4.250.198.226 21:20, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Kate's Counter

Recently when I have tried to see my number of edits using [Kate's counter] it seems to do something - says DONE and then returns a blank screen - I am doing something wrong or is it playing up? Brookie 11:14, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

It's been down since the power outage, I believe. —Korath (Talk) 11:59, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)

Are there plans to make it work again, does anyone know? It was an incredibly useful function, especially for personal addiction-tracking purposes. ;-) SlimVirgin 18:16, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)

I am also one of those addicted to monitoring their addiction. Could somebody pretty please make it work again? - Banyan Tree 00:25, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The functioning edit counter may be found here. - Banyan Tree 18:21, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Good skills! --Brookie 21:00, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Cheers, whoever brought it back. Smoddy (_t^g_e^c_k) 21:18, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

odd contribution

[1] contains a clearly inaccurate contribution at the bottom saying Jan 3 2003, well before either I or User:Cumbey existed here. Suggestions? --SqueakBox 03:38, Mar 22, 2005 (UTC)

One of the servers wasn't running an NTP client, so its clock was way off. One of the devs fixed it so it won't happen again. --iMb~Mw 04:24, 3 Jan 2003 (UTC)

Template interwikis

Gangleri recently dropped me a note:

I made lots of efforts to identify the equivalent of Template:Disambig in many Wikipedias, see de:Bild Diskussion:Logo Begriffsklärung.png and would be happy if you could help to make something similar for the different variants of Template:Copyvio (Template:Copyvio1, Template:Copyvio2 etc.) in many languages. Normally I used links like pt:Special:Allpages/Copy (template namespace) to do this.

I'm not particularly interested in taking this on, but would someone else like to? Probably best to contact Gangleri if you have questions. -- Jmabel | Talk 18:19, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)

Shiloh books.

A request for a article on the Shiloh books by Phyllis Reynolds Naylor.

--Contrib 18:44, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

adding Wikipedia search engine link to my personal homepage

Hello,

Can someone provide me with the hmtl code to add to my personal homepage so I can search Wiki directly from there?

Thanks.

<form name="search" method="post" action="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search">

<input type="text" name="search" value="" />

<input type="submit" name="go" value="Go" /><input type="submit" name="fulltext" value="Search" />

</form>

—Korath (Talk) 20:29, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)

Do I just copy and paste this code directly onto my talk page, or do I have to modify it? Jaberwocky6669 21:15, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)
It won't work on wiki pages, since the form and input tags aren't permitted. It'll only work on outside web pages, which is what I assumed "personal homepage" to mean. It just duplicates the normal search form between the Navigation links and Toolbox on the left side anyway. —Korath (Talk) 21:39, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)

Thre's an add-on for Mozilla Firefox which adds a Wikipedia toolbar to your browser. Rick K 23:49, Mar 28, 2005 (UTC)

Obtain a permission to use a praphic and text of a book from Ballantine Books

Dear Ballantine Book: My name is Elizabeth C. Christenson, MD. I would like to have your written permission to use one graphic picture and text from page 50 (The Yin-Yang of the Mountain) of the book entitled "Between Heaven and Earth, A Guide to Chinese Medicine", by Harriet Beinfield et al. This picture and text will be included in a chapter that I write, entitled "Five Element Music" for a book entitled "Harp Therapy". The main author of the book is Christina Tourin and the book publisher will be first at Emeral Harp Production and possible other publisher at the later date depends on the demand of the book. The expecting date of publication is around July 2005. This book will be used as a standard text book for training harp therapist. Please write me back with the exact way it should be credited on the book. Thank you for your assistance. Elizabeth C. Christenson, MD chimedical@doctor.com chimedica@hawaii.rr.com

I'm sorry, but Wikipedia is not Ballantine Books and cannot give permission for the reuse of any of their materials. -- Cyrius|✎ 03:12, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

OK, THAT was weird. How on earth can someone get confused into thinking this has anything to do with Ballentine Books? DreamGuy 05:27, Mar 25, 2005 (UTC)

That was most definitely weird. A doctor who is so nuts as to confuse a public Web-based encyclopedia with a private publisher of dead tree books is not the kind of doctor I want within 100 miles of me! --Coolcaesar 23:33, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Table alignment

How do I get the shuttle/special table to go under the S bullet on S (New York City Subway service)? --SPUI (talk) 15:12, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Fixed, thanks to User:Korath. --SPUI (talk) 20:54, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

What to do if you observe a revert war?

Slovakia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is experiencing a revert war that has been going on for over a month now. I don't know much about this country, but it appeas to me that Vital Component (talk · contribs) is trying to force his POV against the rest of the contributors. In one of the two reversions I checked [2], he simply reverted the page, introducing an obvious misspelling. This may hint to him/her not being thorough.

What can an outside observer like me do to help in such a situation? I don't want to revert Vital Component's change because I don't know enough about the subject to be sure, and because this is what others already have been doing for many weeks without solving the problem. I checked out pages like Wikipedia:Resolving disputes and Wikipedia:Template_messages/Disputes but none of them seems to fit to the situation. I don't think I'd be very helpful starting a discussion about a topic which I know much less than the opponents – I only would like to bring this the attention of others who know more about it.

Sebastian 08:16, 2005 Mar 26 (UTC)

You could report it to WP:AN/3RR in case there's a 3 revert rule violation. Otherwise head over to WP:RFPP to request protection. -- Mgm|^(talk) 09:52, Mar 26, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. (I only noticed it now because my computer crashed just when I submitted this, and so I thought I had to rewrite everything. Anyway –) I posted it both on Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts and Wikipedia:AMA Requests for Assistance – let's see which way works better! — Sebastian 10:47, 2005 Mar 26 (UTC)

Request for assitance on making beautiful tables

I'd be grateful if someone could beautify the tables on United Kingdom corporation tax for me, particularly the example computation one. I'm not very good at tables (I normally copy one I've seen somewhere else before), but I can't think where I've seen something like the tables I've got in this article elsewhere, jguk 11:40, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

What kind of thing do you want? If you give some kind of an idea, I'll see what I can do. Smoddy (_t^g_e^c_k) 12:12, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Made some changes to the example table. Is that what you wanted? It's just some   (non-breaking spaces) for indents and empty cell fillers, then some align=right to right-adjust the values. Or did you really want some fancy-shmancy style sheet layouts? — RJH 22:00, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Urgent.

Someone sent pornography to my talk page how do I get rid of it? Please help.

--Contrib 19:32, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Is there a way that someone could delete the porn from my talk page? It would really help.

--Contrib 19:34, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Removed by User:Knowledge Seeker at 19:34 UTC. -- Cyrius|✎ 20:16, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for all of your help. --Contrib 20:23, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Ya that happened to my talk page as well. The culprit is probably male; teens or early 20's, and perhaps a tad insecure. — RJH 21:44, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Trying to stub (or redirect) attaché case

Hi! To fix a problem with attache being a redirect to the (then) non-existent attaché, I created a stub for the latter, relating to the political definition of that word. Since there's obviously some ambiguity with attaché case, I now wish to fill in that hole as well. I'm having two problems with this:

Is attaché case the appropriate title for it? It's not so much a policy issue as an English issue, as I gather there is a growing movement to get rid of diacritics in such words. Not being a native speaker, I'd like some input on that.

I can't think of anything to put in there that wouldn't be a duplicate of briefcase. Unfortunately, a redirect wouldn't be appropriate, as there will already be a previous redirect due to diacritics. (Say, attache case→attaché case→briefcase.) Having two separate redirects to briefcase (or four, if one were to cover hyphenated versions as well) would only encourage linking to either of them, and could possibly result in duplicate articles in the future.

I'd appreciate any help or suggestion on this. --Fbriere 02:34, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

You could have both the pages redirect to briefcase. If you do that you won't have troubles with any double redirects. Mgm|^(talk) 11:51, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)

An attaché case isn't exactly the same thing as a briefcase: it's more specific, necessarily a hard-shell case. No problem with accent in title (in fact, it is correct), but a redirect from attache case is certainly in order. -- Jmabel | Talk 05:00, Mar 28, 2005 (UTC)

- Thanks for the precision. I'm still stuck over what I could write that wouldn't be cut/paste from briefcase with "hard shell" stuck in there. Would somebody be willing to create the attaché case stub? I already set up the redirect, and cleaned up all the links. --Fbriere 07:31, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Inline link to an existing image?

Hey. I was editing Windows Security Center, and decided it might be nice to have an image of the security center in there. Now obviously a big image in the way might look a little ugly, espically considering there aren't any other pictures in there.

In the Service Pack 2 section, there is a wonderful image of the security center already there. I'd like to re-use it. Problem is, like I just said - I don't think I acutally want to show the picture on this article. Is there a way to link to it using more of an inline link? I suppose I could do ([[image:image_url.jpg|screenshot]]), but I didn't know if there was a "proper" way to do this, like with external links. You know where it has that little icon of an arrow poiting up right next to the link?

Sorry if this is an obvious question. I just like to follow standards and I didn't see anything written about things like this.

Thanks.

--Oreckel 03:05, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Technically, you can make inline links to images by putting a : in front of the Image: namespace; for example, "[[:Image:F-15 vertical deploy.jpg]]" produces "Image:F-15 vertical deploy.jpg". Whether it's a good idea stylistically, I dunno. —Korath (Talk) 03:34, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)

If you want the little arrow, you could use an external link code and use the full URL to the image. Do you know you can resize images as well? - Mgm|^(talk) 11:53, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)

Help, need to know what to do to fix a factual error that there is no answer to.

On the page for the new Dave Matthews Band album, Stand Up, that will be coming out in May of 2005, there is a stated track listing that is completely pulled out of the air (some the band has said won't be on the album, some are from previous recording sessions, some are just plain made up; not to mention that the order of the songs that we do know will be on there isn't finalized). But since there isn't any proper way to fix it (I don't know any better than whoever made the page), I can't exactly change it. Can someone fix this somehow? I didn't want to say anything on the talk page for it, because there are no posts there (a fairly new page, since the name of the album itself is new), so I didn't know that it'd get read.

Well, if you know it's bogus, just remove it while saying so. -- Cyrius|✎ 04:22, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

missing page how does this happen

A number of weeks ago I searched for "scandals gate suffix" and found a great page that listed all the different scandles that end in gate... watergate, nipplegate, zippergate... etc.

I come back today and this search no longer works. Nor does any other variation...

I tried to search some of the individual scandals and found at the bottom the link to "scandals suffixed with gate" but when I hit that link ... it says wikipedia has no such category.

So the question is... how does a great page like that disapear, why, and how do we get it back.

All best, Rob

I think you may be looking for List of scandals suffixed with gate. Sometimes the built-in Wikipedia search tools don't work as well as they could. To find this list, I went straight to Google and added site:wikipedia.org to the query. --iMb~Meow 07:30, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Need help keeping table from overlapping text

When I view K (New York City Subway service) in K-Meleon (which uses the same rendering as Firefox) at certain text and window sizes, a line of text is behind the table with the blue K and KK. This isn't nearly as bad with images (and is fixed with a refresh). Is there a way to fix this? --SPUI (talk) 20:06, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I don't have Firefox installed here, so I can't really fiddle with it myself, but does it help to give it a left margin (i.e., {| style="margin-left: 0.5em")? —Korath (Talk) 22:40, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)

Aha, that didn't work but a margin-top did. I really should have used a template here. --SPUI (talk) 22:52, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Still a couple minor problems on S (New York City Subway service). First, the first line of text is vertically aligned to the bottom rather than the top of the S in a gray circle. It's much worse in Internet Explorer; the first line is aligned to the top of the black SS/SHUTTLE and green SS boxes! Additionally all the boxes with only SS are cut off at the top - about 1/3 of the letters are simply missing. The box is full size but the letters are being clipped. Thanks for any help. --SPUI (talk) 11:22, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

It looks perfect in K-Meleon now; unfortunately there are still a few problems in IE - see Image:SS cut.png. --SPUI (talk) 12:47, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

No idea how to fix the letters. It seems to be a strange css incompatibility; if I cut and paste the html onto another server and look at it there, they come out whole. —Korath (Talk) 12:51, Apr 2, 2005 (UTC)

Any idea about the fake image box overlapping the text? Or is that an IE bug and/or happens with images too? --SPUI (talk) 13:27, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I've confirmed that that happens with images too. Oh well. --SPUI (talk) 13:50, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I did manage to fix the cropping of the SS by using an extra <br> and <br> before and after. Not sure why, but it works. --SPUI (talk) 13:57, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Draft Articles

Is there such thing as a personal sandbox or some way other than off-line editing that I can work on an article over a period of several days without it being released? Shoaler 15:51, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

You could use a user subpage, although it's not really private as people will still see it in Recent Changes. Goplat 16:21, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, that's just what I was looking for. I don't need privacy, just some place to work. Shoaler 17:02, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

RFC in Spanish

Hi! Does anybody know what or where the wiki RFC in Spanish is? (No spanish link, searched hi and low)I need an answer pronto, por favor. I posted a sample of one our native languages Chabacano , the user is saying it is a prayer and we have to be neutral or something like that. I'm in a revert edit war now. Help ! Gracias.--Jondel 08:45, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I don't see anything obvious. I suggest that you ask on the Spanish Wikipedia rather than here. -- Jmabel | Talk 16:23, Mar 29, 2005 (UTC)

Please look at this [3](second time already) . He says that this is a prayer and articles have to be neutral (non -religious) . ( no deben contener "Propaganda o proselitismos de ningún tipo". I'm not proselytizing just giving a language sample, the Our father in Chavacano.) Unilateral delete:[4] . No reason given , but a notice that I used an autotranslator. Still that is no reason to unilaterally delete the article. It is hard to believe that the Spanish of Lupang Hinirang is that horrible. In the articles of Jose Rizal, Corazon Aquino, Ferdinand Marcos, he keeps removing the [Categoría: Gente de las Filipinas]. He wants all categories to fit into his. There is only one category available writers(ecritores)

I will be communicating with Angela and asking the Spanish wikipedia. I can't seem to locate the RFC. I'll just go to the administrators or Cafe(the Village Pump equivalent.)--Jondel 00:48, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Need help importing 1000+ law articles into WP

I've been talking with Kevin Boone about the possibility of importing his 1000+ legal articles into WP ; greating expanding the number, depth and breadth of articles here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:English_law

His website with this content is here : http://law.web-tomorrow.com/twiki/bin/view

The problem is that they are in TWiki, and extensively cross linked.

Kevin has said that he will only consider the import if it can be done "relatively automatically".

This collection of articles would *greatly* improve the English law section of WP, so I'm hoping someone can help.

thanks, Darren.kruse 02:36, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

It's probably a moot question, but have you cleared whether it's allowed to copy it all here under copyright law? 131.211.210.15 07:48, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

It doesn't look as if the information is copyrighted in such a way that it can be transferred to Wikipedia. Each individual contributor would have to sign up to the GFDL (in which case the edit histories would have to be copied across as well), or fully release all copyright claims. Noisy | Talk 08:19, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)

Good points, I'm currently working on the assumption that 90+% of the articles are written by Kevin, so I'm less concerned about the minority of articles that may not come over *initially*

Of greater concern is finding a technical means to automatically / programatically import the 1000+ articles. Of course if we can muster 20 people, that's only 50 each ! Darren.kruse 23:59, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Bots - You might want to place a bot request. Mgm|^(talk) 21:24, Apr 2, 2005 (UTC)

Even better Wikipedia:Bot requests Kevin Rector 16:15, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)

Image does not exist

Image:Earth.jpg says Wikipedia does not yet have an article with this exact name. An image is shown. I wanted to point it out in case there is a DB problem. (I was adding images to Category:Images of Earth) -SEWilco 05:10, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

For some reason, the description page didn't exist. None of the developers cared to comment on the issue. -- Cyrius|✎ 05:54, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Could it be that the person who first uploaded it didn't go in and do the page edit? I'm not sure. It'd be good to have the image source listed. But the image isn't being used anyway, so it will probably get deleted at some point. — RJH 21:39, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

That's not it, the description page gets created automatically by the software. -- Cyrius|✎ 12:11, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Fortunately, it looks like Cyrius' creation of the description page did not have obvious side effects. I listed the image for deletion so it should soon be a non-issue. (Source of image not specified, image not used, near-duplicate of similar images). (SEWilco 05:07, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC))

Weirdness

What the hell is going on? Instead of saying "Article" it says "cabal conspiracy", instead of "discussion" it's "groupthink", instead of "history" it's time travel, instead of "move" it's "teleport", and instead of "watch" it's "stalk." Is this the work of a hacker, or is it just an April Fool's Day prank by a developer? → JarlaxleArtemis 05:13, Apr 1, 2005 (UTC)

As far as I can tell it was a joke by an admin. But I only checked what happened to the "edit this page" button. Mgm|^(talk) 07:50, Apr 1, 2005 (UTC)

Admins who think they're funny. -- Cyrius|✎ 12:15, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Of course admins are funny. I should know, because I'm one myself. I didn't find this joke funny, though. Mgm|^(talk) 13:03, Apr 1, 2005 (UTC)

help with template parameters

I am trying to create Template:Dichotomouskey (to link to the Wikibooks project Dichotomous Key) but don't know how to use parameters effectively. I copied the code from Template:Cookbook, but that will only work when the Wikipedia page title is the same as the Wikibooks page. The Dichotomous Key, however, is organized by latin name (as in Dichotomous Key:Animalia) and not common name. Can someone change Template:Dichotomous Key so that it uses something other than the page name? (i.e. so I could type {{dichotomouskey|Animalia}} and make a working link) Tuf-Kat 20:06, Apr 1, 2005 (UTC)

Nevermind, I figured it out using Template:Wikisource. Someone may want to check and see if there is a better way to do it, though, since I only figured out what worked through trial and error. Tuf-Kat 20:33, Apr 1, 2005 (UTC)

Animalia? Aren't you supposed to use Wikipedia:WikiProject Tree of Life taxoboxes? If not, I'm afraid you're going to have to be more specific in what you're trying to get done. Mgm|^(talk) 21:20, Apr 2, 2005 (UTC)

Redirects to pages with bookmarks?

It appears that the bookmark doesn't work when used in a redirect. An example is Octane rating. Is there a way around this?

Do you mean you want to redirect to a subheader in an article? No, that's not possible as editing those would immediately kill such a link and there's no way to determine what's pointing there. Mgm|^(talk) 15:12, Apr 2, 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, that was what I meant - thank you. So I guess at some point you would possibly just split out a subheading such as this that has grown and is a subject in it's own right? Any opinions on this specific case of Octane rating? Spalding 17:10, Apr 2, 2005 (UTC)
  - Given that half the petrol article is about octane ratings, I think it could be split into two reasonably-sized articles. -- Cyrius|✎ 18:40, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Yep, you'd split out an article on Octane rating and leave a link to the new article (Main article: Octane rating) at the top of the section and a few summary paragraphs below that. Mgm|^(talk) 21:12, Apr 2, 2005 (UTC)

Template:Swatch

I made some changes to Template:Swatch. What do you think? Feel free to fix it. Josh Lee 02:46, Apr 3, 2005 (UTC)

I can't see anything inherently wrong with the page, but what is it supposed to do? Mgm|^(talk) 09:18, Apr 3, 2005 (UTC)
- Check the What links here link. Basically it lets you type in any color and it makes a litle square in that color. In the previous version, the name of the color was not visible enough, and it used a table. Josh Lee 19:03, Apr 3, 2005 (UTC)

NAMBLA

North American Man-Boy Love Association is currently a morass of pro-pedophile propaganda. My attempts to fix this are being reverted by User:Corax, who appears to be a NAMBLA sympathiser. Since I am already well over three reverts, I could use some help. Adam 09:16, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Holding nose and poking page with a long pole. Err, not from me. Sorry. — RJH 19:38, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

wikicommons

How do i include an image from wikicommon in wikipedia? Thanks. Roscoe x 15:45, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Just like any other image. There's no special anything, just include it like it was on en: -- Cyrius|✎ 16:32, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Spelling Errors in Hindi Language on Main Wikipedia Pages

Spelling Errors in Hindi Language on Main Wikipedia Pages

Hi, in those pages and parts of wikipedia that us normal users cannot edit, like the main page, the languages page, and the languages section on the left panel of every page, hindi is misspelled in hindi itself. So to the admin, or whoever has the control of it, please change it, this is the current spelling: हिन्दी And this is what it is supposed to be: िहन्दी The same error of "accents" was made in hindi all over wikipedia also. Some other people and I have been correcting this. If you have a database of pages that contains individual words in this language, please send it to me so I may have a look and fix accordingly.

For reference, the spelling on the Hindi page has been corrected already.

Added a few minutes later: Actually, I just noticed that the same error persists in Wikipedia Hindi...so is there a way for the admins to change this at all places at once, or will we have to do it one by one as we encounter it? Because the latter is a huge task and for an error this great, the quicker the fix, the better. Please let me know, my e-mail address is abhishekbh@gmail.com --Abhishekbh 18:58, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

We don't have an "ambassador" for Hindi. Is there someone who can take responsibility for this, or knows who could follow it through? -- Jmabel | Talk 02:44, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)
- Since no one seems to be stepping up, I will copy this to Talk:Hindi and hope someone will take it up from there. -- Jmabel | Talk 00:07, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

The reason you think this is a spelling mistake is because your computer has not been set up to render Devanagari and other Indic scripts properly. My computer displays Hindi correctly when written हिन्दी. Indian scripts use complex text rendering with Unicode and if your OS/Browser doesn't support this then you will carry on seeing incorrect text. Please do NOT change what you think is incorrect. Sukh 01:14, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks Sukh, I will download the required packages to fix the problem. And Jmabel, sorry for the late reply, but I am ready to take responsibility, if no one else has already done so...--Abhishekbh 19:33, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Tracking down a tag

Ah, mea culpa. This deals with Image:Karakuwa-Miyagi.png: I took the image from the [Japanese page], and neglected to look closely at the copyright tag, figuring something like a city map would have been covered, and also not having Read The Fine Manual closely enough. The Japanese tag doesn't exist, but it is an slightly adjusted picture from the [Japanese Miyagi prefectual site]...which also is untagged. Could someone with better Japanese skills than I have go over and ask where that particular map came from?

The likelihood is that that map is Public domain (a Minnesota county map without a tag on the Minnesota page would be a comparible bet: if it weren't, it wouldn't stand long before being replaced) is quite high, and it's a nice map. I'd rather not go hunting for a similar one if I can help it.

Thanks! William McDuff 11:48, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

How to disambiguate people in the same category

I need some advice. What should I do when there are two people in the same category with the same name. For instance, if there were two people name Joe Blow and one was a soldier and one an author I could do something like this: [[Joe Blow (author)|]] and [[Joe Blow (soldier)|]]. But what do I do if they are the same thing. Here's a real world example, there are two ice hockey players named Petr Sykora. They are both Czech, both have played in the NHL and both are notable enough for an article. Do I make the most notable (he already has an article) [[Petr Sykora]] and the less notable [[Petr Sykora (2)]]? If not, how do I handle this? Thanks Kevin Rector 16:10, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)

[[Petr Sykora (<Team> ice hockey player)]], perhaps? [[Petr Sykora (2)]] is bad title, unless he is really refered to like that. For historical figures, sometimes you can use the year of birth and year of death as disambiguating term.

I took it to the mail list and the best suggestion (and the one I'm going with was to use: Petr Sykora (b. 1976) and Petr Sykora (b. 1978). Kevin Rector 19:05, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)

Exactly. -- Jmabel | Talk 22:44, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)

Verbatim Copying from Public Domain

How should this case be handled? [5] Lotsofissues 23:04, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I went ahead and added a reference, but the article might benefit from some slight updating :) --iMb~Meow 03:22, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

In general, verbatim copying from public domain is fine (as long as the material in question is NPOV and of encyclopedic notability), but you should always cite your source. -- Jmabel | Talk 06:30, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)

Which is a matter of ethics, not law, just to be clear. -- Cyrius|✎ 06:42, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Ziotaki language

Recently I discovered that the article on the conlang Ziotaki was created and deleted on VfD. Could somebody who has access to deleted articles tell me when the article was created, so I know whether Ziotaki language was written before or after I added it to List of spoken and sign languages beginning with the letter Z? Wiwaxia 02:55, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

It was created on May 30, 2004 by Sarge Baldy. →Raul654 03:16, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)

3RR template missing?

I went to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR to report User:24.177.1.87 violating the three revert rule to insert insults into Mastodon (band) after he/she was warned by a number of editors on the article talk page and his own. It sys to fill out a template at the bottom of the page, but I don;t see one there. The section is empty. I looked at the history to try to see if it was removed by a vandal recently, but nothing stood out and there'd be a lot to dig though there. Am I missing something? And, if anyone wants to take a look, is this more a 3RR situation or vandalism? DreamGuy 15:15, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)

I suggest you change that text and let it point to the example just below the lead. It probably was there a long time ago, but since we've got the example, I don't see why we'd need to put it back in. Mgm|^(talk) 18:37, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)

pages needing attention

is there a page that lists all the pages with this tag? if not there should be