Talk:Jimmy Smith at the Organ (1956 album)
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Requested move 16 January 2024
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- The Incredible Jimmy Smith at the Organ → Jimmy Smith at the Organ
- Jimmy Smith at the Organ → Jimmy Smith at the Organ, Vols. 1 & 2
– The move destination already exists. TlonicChronic (talk) 19:55, 16 January 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 02:53, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment @TlonicChronic you accidentally forgot to put your rationale Dantus21 (talk) 22:17, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Added move of associated article. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 00:02, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose so far. All of these are sometimes known as Jimmy Smith at the Organ and I don't see a clear reason why "volume 3" should be moved to the plain title a the expense of "vols. 1 & 2". I am also not sure why the first two volumes have the same article, since the article text says they are "separate but related" albums; however, if the first two can go together, then perhaps a solution would be to merge the third volume there as well. Dekimasuよ! 04:13, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- This isn't actually Jimmy Smith at the Organ Volume 3, that's a misnomer. This is actually The Incredible Jimmy Smith Volume 3, labeled "Jimmy Smith at the Organ" on the cover. "Jimmy Smith at the Organ" and "The Incredible Jimmy Smith" are just Blue Note epithets for Jimmy Smith. The album pair "Jimmy Smith at the Organ, Vols 1 & 2" came out after this album, they are unrelated (except they're both Jimmy Smith Blue Note albums). "The Incredible Jimmy Smith Volume 3" just means the third album on the label by Smith. TlonicChronic (talk) 15:44, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support 2nd move as is, but 1st move only if moved to Jimmy Smith at the Organ, Vol. 3. I think that either a split or merging of the articles is warranted, but as of right now I am not sure what would be the better option Dantus21 (talk) 13:31, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- This album is unrelated to the other pair; I don't think they should be merged. It's more related to "The Incredible Jimmy Smith, Vols. 1 & 2" (BLP 1512 & BLP 1514, A New Star, A New Star Vols. 1 & 2), but I think merging there would also be a mistake. TlonicChronic (talk) 15:47, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge into Jimmy Smith at the Organ per Dekimasu's reasoning above. There isn't a huge amount of prose in either of these two articles, and since they all share the same title and are closely related, even if just as a WP:SETINDEX, I see little reason to maintain two separate pages, one of which must bear an unusual title. Certainly treating vols 1 & 2 separately from the vol 3 is weird to me, even if there are in-depth reasons why some editors think it makes sense. — Amakuru (talk) 10:31, 1 February 2024 (UTC)