Talk:Jasprit Bumrah

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REquest for protected

Multiple vandalism attempts from unregistered users. Request to move the page to semi protected status. --ShockWave97 (talk) 17:46, 8 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: requests for increases to the page protection level should be made at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:49, 8 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Potential plagiarism

The paragraph beginning "He grabbed the eyeballs ... " seems to have been taken word for word from "Cricket Today - Weekly 2017: November 24, 2017". See here (p17).--Megaton Sheriff (talk) 05:41, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The section "He started his bowling career by playing for the Gujarat under-19 team. He made his Indian Premier League debut with the Mumbai Indians in 2013. He showed some promise in his bowling with some pace and swing, he has impressed many in the IPL with his bowling figures, in his debut match of IPL 2013 he took 3 wickets for 32 runs against the Royal Challengers Banglore" in "Domestic Cricket"seems to have been taken from this. The date of the Quora article, Feb 22 2016 (posted by Raj Jain) predates its being posted to Wikipedia.Megaton Sheriff (talk) 10:35, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Removed thanks. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:39, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Request to move page to protected status

Someone keeps adding that Bumrah was involved in a "doping scam" with no understanding of what either doping or scam means. 106.205.1.200 (talk) 13:29, 13 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Chetan Sharma doping claims

1. If the "injections" that helped Bumrah achieve fitness are not detected in anti-doping tests as said by Chetan Sharma himself, then using these injections, by definition, is not doping.

2. "Doping scam" doesn't even mean anything. There is no scam involved.

3. Bumrah underwent a doping test before the 2019 World Cup and passed it since he played the 2019 World Cup. Chetan Sharma said he used the injections before the 2021 India-Sri Lanka series. The page is currently edited in a way to suggest the two events are related and it fails to mention anything about him never failing a doping test.

The editor who keeps adding all this highly misinformed mess should be banned for vandalism. 14.139.38.169 (talk) 08:07, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for flagging this. I've had a look at the last 3 months of page edits, the three sources cited by the editors adding these claims, and WP's policies on semi-protection, edit warring, biographies of living persons, verifiability, and reliable sources.

The edits in question appear to be in good faith, rather than obvious vandalism. Edit warring is present - the claims in question have repeatedly been added and removed by different editors. While most of the parties involved are IP editors, with few edits to pages other than this one, at this stage I'd rather not submit an admin semi-protection request, as I think there's a possibility we can resolve the disagreement ourselves.

One of the sources (https://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ani/jasprit-bumrah-undergoes-doping-test-119060301229_1.html) is a short article about Bumrah undertaking a routine doping test in 2019. As 14.139.38.169 has noted, it's irrelevant to the claims it's being used to support.

The other two sources (https://thecricketlounge.com/chetan-sharma-sting-by-zee-news, https://www.mensxp.com/health/celebrity-fitness/129345-chetan-sharma-sting-operation-chief-selector-accuses-jasprit-bumrah-others-of-using-fake-injections.html) are news outlets reporting on a Feb 2023 'sting' recording of the BCCI chief selector Chetan Sharma by Zee News: https://zeenews.india.com/cricket/live-updates/chetan-sharma-sting-operation-live-updates-bccis-selection-committee-chairman-reveals-how-team-india-players-take-fake-injections-2573280. Zee News, the publisher of this video is unlikely to meet WP reliability standards, as they "[have] been involved in several controversies and [have] broadcast fabricated news stories on multiple occasions". However, the video itself could be considered a separate, primary source; its publication led to Sharma submitting his resignation three days later.

Despite this, on current sourcing, I don't think this is sufficient to back up the claim that "Bumrah was alleged to have taken injections ... against anti-doping rules". Wikipedia policy for use of primary sources in biographies of living persons states "Exercise extreme caution in using primary sources. ... Where primary-source material has been discussed by a reliable secondary source, it may be acceptable to rely on it to augment the secondary source, subject to the restrictions of this policy, no original research, and the other sourcing policies. // Please note that exceptional claims require exceptional sources."

Even aside from the sourcing issue, Zee News' own video summary doesn't clearly back up this claim: "Jaspirt [sic] Bumrah was unable to bend as he had a major injury other than that there are one or two players who take injections in private and says that they are fit to play // No! I am talking about injections. If they take pain-killer than it will come in dopping [sic]. Team India players are aware about which injections come in anti-doping."

Based on all this, I'm removing the claims in question - they're not currently well-sourced enough to meet WP editorial policy on biographies of living persons. Special:Contributions/2409:4088:AE02:BDE9:5CF1:2A1F:DA60:28A7, Special:Contributions/47.11.197.248, Special:Contributions/47.11.202.82, if you disagree with this, please discuss it here on the talk page before editing further - hopefully we can either come to a consensus, or find someone with more policy expertise to help out here.

Cheers, Preimage (talk) 13:24, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]