Talk:2024 Rochdale by-election

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The poor sod's body is barely cold, let's not rush to create an article. A general election might be called in which case we've wasted effort in creating a page. Less haste, more decorum. doktorb _words^deeds 16:57, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, there is not one single source mentioning a by-election so this is just WP:CRYSTAL at this point. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 19:24, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree. The precedent set with 2017 Manchester Gorton by-election is to have a by-election article even if a general election supersedes it. —LukeSurl^t c 05:43, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Labour candidate designation

Despite Labour disowning the candidate, the candidate will still appear on the ballot paper as a Labour Party candidate. I therefore think it is more appropriate the candidate list includes a Labour designation, especially as the same is true of the Green Party candidate. Georgeday868 (talk) 20:09, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. OGBC1992 (talk) 20:22, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agree also. LukeSurl^t c 22:18, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. We reflect the ballot paper. Anything else can be put in the text with citations doktorb _words^deeds 22:21, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Of course. Keep reverting. Moscow Mule (talk) 00:57, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Candidate information

Hi all. Been fleshing out the candidate information and I hope that I am not adding too much. If so, no hard feelings if anyone wishes to remove anything. I inserted this line:

"Despite the economic liberalism of Reform, Danczuk is styling himself as an "old Labour" candidate with a focus on local issues rather than the "woke" politics of modern Labour or the Israel-Palestine conflict."

...at the end of the paragraph on Danczuk (Reform candidate) but I am unsure whether it is worded well. I put the term "woke" in quotation marks to try and show that that is his perception of Labour's politics rather than an objective fact, but I am unsure whether this looks like it is endorsing his claims, which is not my intention. I included it because I believe styling himself as an "old Labour" candidate who is critical of "woke" politics is central to his (and Reform's) populist message aimed at white working class voters. Horarum (talk) 17:38, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think to be on the safe side I would cut it back to finish the sentence at “local issues”. OGBC1992 (talk) 17:55, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I reworded the sentence before I saw this discussion, hopefully to be more NPOV. I would also not object to ending the sentence at "local issues". Jdcooper (talk) 20:19, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

alternatively, we could finish the sentence at "...local issues." with a further sentence about what the sources say he criticised, to make it less ambiguous that it is him saying that, rather than it being a fact. Jdcooper (talk) 20:21, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your wording is much better! Thanks. Horarum (talk) 20:29, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]