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Henry Halliday (paediatrician)

Hi @Kaltenmeyer: That is newspaper, not a periodical. It is a British-English article. scope_creepTalk 08:40, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,
Periodical is defined as "a magazine or newspaper published at regular intervals." A newspaper is a periodical.
Also there is this guidance at HELP:CS1 "The "publisher" parameter should not be included :for widely-known mainstream news sources, for major academic journals, or where it would be :the same or mostly the same as the work."
Kaltenmeyer (talk) 14:05, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello! Thanks for doing this. Do u use any device or tool for doing it? Or, is it done manually? Haoreima (talk) 22:45, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I use Wikipedia:ReFill Kaltenmeyer (talk) 22:54, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

History of surgery -Roman surgery

There is no mention of surgical instruments in Roman Empire in the article history of surgery despite having its own article on Roman surgery.The further information is available in the talk page of roman surgical instruments. Ppppphgtygd (talk) 06:05, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Caesian surgery by sushuruta

There is a claim that sushuruta conducted caesarian and prosthetic surgery but the reference given is poor. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5512402/ Issac Newton school (talk) 16:55, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CS1 error on Balmis Expedition

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Publisher for Periodicals

I don't see the point of this edit where you just remove the name of the publisher from the reference (the other parts of the edit were good tho). You're just kind of removing information that kind of helps people better identify the source? I think the reason |publisher= is not often used for periodicals is because a lot of the times they have the same name as the work (New York Times Company is the the publisher of The New York Times). Either way, that part of the CS1 documentation is very much not prescriptive, and so I'd appreciate it if you restored the publisher information. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 02:18, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, My view is that it is prescriptive, regardless of whether the publisher's name is similar to the publication name. Note the example of Gannett Corporation being incorrect for USA Today at Help:Citation_Style_1 The example of what should not be done is "|newspaper=USA Today|publisher=Gannett Company". This is the example that I am following. Kaltenmeyer (talk) 02:34, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ayo thanks for fixing the problem i did in Highest grossing Bangladeshi film list.

Thanks for fixing the problem i did. THE SSS (talk) 17:10, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CS1 error on Gülüstan, Nakhchivan

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MOS:BOLDLINKAVOID on Coupe de France preliminary round sub articles

Hi there! I saw your edits on several Coupe de France preliminary round articles, such as [1], and I see your valid MOS argument for removing the links. So I'm looking for a bit of help, or advice, or ideas. The articles you edited, such as 2023–24 Coupe de France preliminary rounds, Nouvelle-Aquitaine and 12 others, are all sub-articles of 2023–24 Coupe de France preliminary rounds. Each sub article is linked in a section on that article using {{main}} for ease of navigation to the sub article. The link in the bolded title provided the reader with an easy single-click navigation back to the main article, a navigational aide that is now completely missing.

So what's the best way to maintain that ease of navigation for our users? Cheers, Gricehead (talk) 17:56, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The link can be added outside the article title. For 2023–24 Coupe de France preliminary rounds, Nouvelle-Aquitaine the second sentence could be changed to something like: A total of fourteen teams will qualify from the Nouvelle-Aquitaine preliminary rounds, which are part of the 2023–24 Coupe de France preliminary rounds. (The terminology "part of" might need to be altered) Kaltenmeyer (talk) 18:15, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Guines

Please do not change Guines to Guinness. Guines is correct. Celia Homeford (talk) 08:59, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Understood. Thank you. AWD changed that and I did not notice it, but I should have. Kaltenmeyer (talk) Kaltenmeyer (talk) 17:17, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Publisher param in citations

Please do not remove publisher parameters in citations for newspapers, magazines, or websites, as in this edit at Transphobia. You linked Cite news#Publisher, Cite web#Publisher, Cite magazine#Publisher in support of your removal, but none of those support your claim, although I can kind of see how one could read it at first glance. I'm guessing that your take rests on a misunderstanding of this statement (this one is from from Cite news):

Do not use the publisher parameter for the name of a work (e.g. a website, book, encyclopedia, newspaper, magazine, journal, etc.).

If I guessed wrong, you can skip the rest of this, and we can discuss. If that is what it was, look at what it is saying; I think maybe adding an example or two might clarify:

Do not use the publisher parameter for the name of a work (e.g. a website, book, encyclopedia, newspaper, magazine, journal, etc.); that is: don't write |publisher=Wall Street Journal; the WSJ is published by Dow Jones & Company; don't write |publisher=World Book Encyclopedia, write |publisher=Scott Fetzer Company, and so on.

The citation doc is just saying not to use the website name, the encyclopedia name, the newspaper name, or the magazine name in the publisher field. In other parts of the citation doc, it says not to use pub. at all, when it duplicates the name; for example, no need to write |magazine=Time |publisher=Time, Inc., and on top of that, |publisher= is not the most important parameter to establish verifiability (which is why I didn't bother reverting that edit, because your edit didn't hurt verifiability), but if it's already there, and not a duplicate of the title, then there's no reason to remove it.

Do you think those passages are unclear? Maybe it's poorly worded. If you feel you got tripped up by the doc, this wouldn't by the first time I've changed the citation documentation to improve it. Or if you feel you know what it should say to be clearer, feel free to take a shot at it. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 04:40, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,
My edits were based on this language for the publisher field: "Not normally used for periodicals." This appears in Template:Cite_news#Publisher and similar language appears in the other pages cited. It it means what it says, then the publisher "Here Publishing" would not normally be used for the periodical "The Advocate" and can be deleted. Also, if you would like to have this discussion in the talk page of a template where more people can join in, that is fine also. I want to make sure that I am following what is intended by the language in Template:Cite_news#Publisher and similar pages. Kaltenmeyer (talk) 14:31, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Aha, so periodicals = no (not normally), and books, journal articles, encyclopedias = yes? Or, is an encyclopedia a periodical, too, if it came out every few years, like print versions of EB used to, before they (and just about every other encyclopedia publisher) stopped publishing print versions? Could get squirrelly, with {{cite proceedings}} and other flavors being 'no' if they are a one-shot (or irregular?) conference, and 'yes' if they occur regularly? And what about {{cite AV media}} for stuff on YouTube, same question, sometimes no (1-shots), sometimes yes if it's episodes of a series? I'd like to make sure I'm following it, too; seems like it's confusing and ought to be clarified. I'm buried in a few other template issues, but if you start a discussion, I'll watch, and participate if I can. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 02:07, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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