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Electronic cigarette was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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Date	Process	Result
November 10, 2009	Peer review	Reviewed
April 27, 2016	Good article nominee	Not listed

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UK regulation

The article implies that vapes are only available on prescription in the UK, and none have been approved. This isn't the case as vaping is all over the high street. This needs work. Secretlondon (talk) 22:48, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I would like this to be added to the section about the marketing of electronic cigarettes this is a great survey. While electronic cigarettes have been marketed as a safer alternative to traditional cigarettes, surveys have shown that 90% of nicotine users state that they started abusing nicotine before the age of 18(Bhatnagar et.al, 2019). Highlighting the risk that e-cigarettes and their relationship to marketing can pose to young people. As nicotine use during adolescence can lead to long-term addiction, making it difficult to quit throughout adulthood. Mental health issues and other risky behaviors are often linked to nicotine use in adolescents, underscoring the need for comprehensive support and intervention for vulnerable youth. With 70% of teens reported exposure to e-cigarette advertising such as posters of Juul and other disposable vape companies in gas stations(Bhatnagar et.al, 2019). Concerns have been raised about the impact of marketing on youth and the glorification of the use of these products, emphasizing the need for tighter regulation and control over the marketing and sale of e-cigarettes to protect public health. https://www.ahajournals.org/action/showCitFormats?doi=10.1161%2FCIR.0000000000000669 Kloran74 (talk) 00:27, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: Please rewrite in accordance with the WP:MOS, paying particular attention to the standards for grammar and syntax. Many of the sentences you have written are grammatically incorrect or confusing. Remember that easier to read = better! :) Running your text through a proofreading program might also help if you're struggling with that. Actualcpscm (talk) 12:24, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

efficacy for smoking cessation in observational studies

The page cites meta-analyses finding no evidence for EC aiding smoking cessation in observational studies, Hedman et al. explicitly stating the quality of included studies are "consistently low".

However, Vilanti et al have refrained from a meta-analyses for studies diverse in their quality. Instead, they graded studies based on their quality, and found that "Only a small proportion of studies seeking to address the effect of e-cigarettes on smoking cessation or reduction meet a set of proposed quality standards. Those that do are consistent with randomized controlled trial evidence in suggesting that e-cigarettes can help with smoking cessation or reduction."

How do we determine the impact of e‐cigarettes on cigarette smoking cessation or reduction? Review and recommendations for answering the research question with scientific rigor - Villanti - 2018 - Addiction - Wiley Online Library

How do we reflect these findings in the page? Zvi Zig (talk • contribs 20:16, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think that we're turning the lead into a fudgy mess again and I'm not thrilled about it. The whole fourth paragraph is terrible, and in particular, For people trying to quit smoking without medical help, e-cigarettes have not been found to raise quit rates,[24] but the quality of evidence on this was graded "consistently low"[25] is a ghastly sentence. We need to keep this article accessible for teenagers, including teenagers of lower reading attainment. That's a key purpose of writing an encyclopaedia.

If you can write "quitting smoking", don't write "discontinuing tobacco smoking".

If you're able to cite a randomised controlled trial, you don't have to begin your sentence with "In randomised controlled trials". The lead should be intelligible to people who don't have a scientific background and won't be able to make sense of that. The readers who do have that background will be checking the citations anyway.

If there's high quality evidence that vaping helps smokers quit even when they aren't getting medical advice, then that's brilliant and lets us simplify the article a great deal. We should cite the study that says so.—S Marshall T/C 22:58, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good points - agreed.Zvi Zig (talk • contribs 02:25, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

update to "Heath effects" section: secondhand vape is more dangerous than secondhand smoke

the American Heart Association put out an article talking about the negative health effects of secondhand vaping https://www.heart.org/en/news/2022/05/31/in-secondhand-vape-scientists-smell-risk

the article says that secondhand vape is even more dangerous than secondhand smoke on account of the heavy metals in e-cig aerosol particles.

vapes should also not be described as a "safe alternative" to cigarettes because they actually contain more nicotine than traditional cigarettes

https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/01/416371/juul-delivers-substantially-more-nicotine-previous-generation-e-cigs-and

Cat-with-the-'tism (talk) 16:57, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

These are primary source studies, the 2nd one specifically about JUUL. We should not use either until WP:MEDRS sources appear. Johnbod (talk) 17:43, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Determinist statement

In the second paragraph of the "Young adult and teen use" section it states that young people who do not smoke vape… this comes across as a generalisation of All young people. It simply is not true and maybe should be amended JcwDenno (talk) 10:57, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed it now reads "Many young people who would not smoke are vaping" — Shibbolethink ^(♔ ^♕) 13:51, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Change "am" to "an" in the first paragraph 203.221.193.234 (talk) 06:37, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done Tollens (talk) 07:32, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 23 June 2023

Merge the second and third sentences of the second paragraph using “although” 78.175.54.104 (talk) 21:56, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We're trying to write those first four paragraphs in very short, clear sentences because we want to make sure the lead is easy for teens to understand. This article's audience includes young people in lower attainment quartiles who are considering taking a puff.—S Marshall T/C 22:19, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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