Talk:Telephone

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Proposed merge of Telephony into Telephone

The two concepts -- technology and device -- could be better covered in the same article. There's a wide overlap between the two articles, e.g.: Telephone#Early_history and Telephony#Overview; or Telephony#IP_telephony and Telephone#Digital_telephones_and_voice_over_IP -- even with similar images across the two articles. Also, Telephony is stunted, compared to Telephone. A similar proposal has already been implemented in Satellite telephony and Satellite phone. fgnievinski (talk) 04:04, 11 July 2023 (UTC) fgnievinski (talk) 04:04, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No way. This is short-sighted and uniformed. A telephone is just one device used in telephony. A merged article could quickly exceed article size recommendations. By the same token, many WP articles could be merged into telephony. The direction of the the proposed merge also makes no sense. You don't merge a larger-scope article into a smaller one. kbrose (talk) 16:42, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the cited case of satellite telephony is not similar at all. It was not a merge of existing articles but simply a redirect for an alternate name of much narrower scope. Those articles could equally be proposed to be merged into Telephone or Telephony. kbrose (talk) 17:32, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The overlap is unavoidable, as it is with a huge number of subjects on Wikipedia, especially technical and technology ones. Telephone and telephony do overlap and always will, but they’re quite distinct: a telephone is how you make or receive a call, telephony is how data (including voice data) gets between a transmitter and a receiver.

The problem here, if there is one, is that people have split and resplit Telephony down into ever more granular articles on every single type of telephony. Each one is barely more than a stub. Meanwhile Telephone has remained whole.

I can see why that makes it look like Telephony should merge into Telephone, but it would do our readers a disservice. What’s actually needed is to bring the items split off from Telephony back into the main article, or at least use Telephony as a jumping-off point for the science in question with lots of wikilinks outwards.

Merging it into this article is treating a symptom of another problem, rather than treating the problem itself. — Trey Maturin™ 21:26, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. This article is already too large and should not be made bigger. Telephony in turn should be expanded, if any should be, or perhaps Telephone call. Jim.henderson (talk) 23:53, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Proposition of addition of new Samsung flip phone into the smartphone section

The new samsung galaxy zflip phones are an excellent innovation and should be added to the Smartphones sections. Deadeyebro27 (talk) 01:06, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We need a reliable publication to say a particular phone is an "excellent innovation" before we could consider adding it. Even then, we'd need a good reason to do so over and above other innovative handsets. — Trey Maturin™ 16:47, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Specific types or brands of smart phones should not be added in this article. This is a general article about telephones, and the smart phone section should also remain generic, unless there is an overwhelming reason to cite one particular device. Flip phones especially are nothing particularly new. kbrose (talk) 17:09, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mobile!

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Lead image

@Redraiderengineer: I saw your edit summary, "The lead image should be representative and not primarily decorative per the MoS." The portion of the MoS that I believe is relevant says,

Lead images should be natural and appropriate representations of the topic; they should not only illustrate the topic specifically, but also be the type of image used for similar purposes in high-quality reference works, and therefore what our readers will expect to see. Lead images are not required, and not having a lead image may be the best solution if there is no easy representation of the topic.

Since a typical phone today is a smartphone, not an AT&T push-button landline, isn't a picture of a smartphone a more "natural and appropriate representation... of the topic"? Luke10.27 (talk) 03:46, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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