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Unicode font support

My browser, Safari iPadOS 17 has failed to render some of the unicode characters here. Is there any way that a suitable font could be embedded or suggested? CecilWard (talk) 13:24, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Vertical Stroke meaning disputed

"they are always accompanied by a mute vertical stroke indicating their status as a logogram" -- I agree this is the consensus interpretation of the Z1 vertical stroke(coptic - roht).

Nearly example I've ever seen follows a glyph with an "r". I consider this glyph to be an "r" determinative(still silent), but signifying that there is an "r" present. Whether this is after "per" or "re". It is also possible that a glyph has 2 different readings(ie 2 words for goose), where one of the words has an "r", and this signifies which word for the glyph to use. So I believe this logogram theory/interpretation is incorrect; both interpretations make the z1 heiroglyph silent, so it is mostly theoretical as to the why. 2601:58B:E7F:8410:30E3:3636:9B1C:7EB0 (talk) 19:21, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Obscure word example

O34-G38-G1-A47-D54 - keep, watch
This particular word does not exist in Faulkner, Vygus, Dickson, or AED(German) dictionaries.

There is no coptic equivalent of keep or watch starting with an s, or an s-k; the translation is suspect. The word has multiple determinatives(ignored glyphs), and is a bad teaching example.
O34-s [in ptolemys]
G38-gb(Geb?) or Coptic qeshe - goose, large duck (not s as in g39)
G1-Coptic Ahom - eagle, vulture
A47-Coptic eloiH? - shepherd (determinative?)(or guard determinitive?)
D54 - walk/move determinative or suffix?

Without context, I'm guessing Coptic skirta(ⲥⲕⲓⲣⲧⲁ) - to leap (object: none), to leap in(side of) s.th.

Note: The city Sais starts with O34-G38-G1. {O34-G38-G1-Z7-O49} -- AED Dictionary 2601:58B:E7F:8410:30E3:3636:9B1C:7EB0 (talk) 00:14, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]