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Non-notable politician, fails WP:NPOL. Fhektii (talk) 12:23, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: Subject appears to have had a career far exceeding just politics, so not passing WP:NPOL alone is not a sufficient argument for deletion. Curbon7 (talk) 22:28, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator has been CU blocked. Curbon7 (talk) 05:29, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Curbon7 (talk) 22:29, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep The WP:NPOL clearly dictates "Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage" following are the links I have found so far which in my humble opinion, does not only fulfills WP:NPOL, but also fulfills WP:GNG and WP:GNP, as the subject is notable, and received significant coverage for "other reasons besides their political careers alone".
Following are the links, I could find. Ms.Aloisia (talk) 23:36, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
https://apnews.com/article/5adaacef468642c4930d1ad76ff09b69
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article178813586.html
https://www.npr.org/2017/10/21/559143650/close-encounters-with-congress
https://thenewtropic.com/bettina-rodriguez-aguilera/
https://www.inverse.com/article/37501-bettina-rodriguez-aguilera-aliens-abduction-congress
https://movieweb.com/alien-invasion-ufo-miami-congress-bettina-rodriguez-aguilera/
https://www.cnet.com/science/congressional-candidate-says-she-was-abducted-by-aliens/
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/miami-herald-bettina-rodriguez-aguilera_n_5b7c1500e4b05906b417862e
https://fox5sandiego.com/news/gop-house-candidate-i-was-abducted-by-aliens/
https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/florida-candidate-says-alien-abduction-doesnt-define-her
https://www.fox6now.com/news/gop-house-candidate-i-was-abducted-by-aliens
https://www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-30810135.html
https://www.wsls.com/news/weird-news/congressional-candidate-claims-shes-been-on-alien-spaceship/
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/aliens-spoke-to-me-claims-us-politician-mnlwscx0t
https://www.hawaiipublicradio.org/2017-10-21/close-encounters-with-congress
https://www.fox17online.com/2018/08/21/gop-house-candidate-i-was-abducted-by-aliens
https://www.wtvr.com/2018/08/20/gop-house-candidate-i-was-abducted-by-aliens
https://news.wgcu.org/2017-10-21/close-encounters-with-congress
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/2017/10/16/florida-politician-who-saw-aliens/7128272007/
https://www.keranews.org/2017-10-21/close-encounters-with-congress
https://www.politicalcortadito.com/2013/04/18/doral-recall-busts-whos-behind-brito/
https://www.wgbh.org/news/2017-10-21/close-encounters-with-congress
https://myfox8.com/news/gop-house-candidate-i-was-abducted-by-aliens/
https://www.texarkanagazette.com/news/2017/oct/17/miami-candidate-says-aliens-took-her-spaceship/
https://www.iowapublicradio.org/2017-10-21/close-encounters-with-congress
- Comment, and request for clarification. Let's look at WP:POL (cited above). It says (after I remove notes, etc):
The following are presumed to be notable:
- Politicians and judges who have held international, national, or (for countries with federal or similar systems of government) state/province–wide office, or have been members of legislative bodies at those levels.
- Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage.
Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability, although such people can still be notable if they meet the general notability guideline.
- She's not international, national, or state whatever. I don't see how she is or was a major figure in local politics. As I understand (or perhaps misunderstand) it, this person has never been elected to any position. (Was she elected as vice-mayor? The article isn't clear.) To judge from their URLs, the sources provide variants on "She says she was abducted by aliens, but she's running for office." Which I suppose is an unusual combination, even in Florida. Have I got this wrong? -- Hoary (talk) 00:56, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- What you have wrong is something like a law of excluded middle: your assumption that everyone is either guaranteed notability or non-notable. The middle ground consists of people who are not automatically notable as office-holders, but nevertheless are notable for some other reason. Some other reason like having lots of in-depth reliable independent coverage, as WP:NBIO asks for. If you want to change Wikipedia's standards of notability, from being based on the depth and independence of sourcing to instead being based only meeting certain thresholds of accomplishment, I'm generally in favor, but that's not what the standards are now and in general we've been moving in the opposite direction (for instance in no longer treating competing at the Olympics as giving automatic notability). So in this case, stating that she does not pass NPOL is irrelevant; we know that already. She also does not pass WP:NASTRO because she is not an astronomical object. What you need to address instead is the question of whether the many sources listed above are reliable, independent of each other, and provide significant depth of coverage about the subject. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:34, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per SUSTAINED/BLP1E. Coverage is essentially restricted to sensational human-interest news on the intersection of her claims of alien abduction and her running for congress. JoelleJay (talk) 05:44, 6 March 2024 (UTC)