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Section sizes

Section size for Wagner Group (41 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	47,034	47,034
Origins and leadership	1,521	16,564
Yevgeny Prigozhin	7,067	7,067
Dmitry Utkin	6,889	6,889
Konstantin Pikalov	1,087	1,087
Organization	11,933	35,325
Recruitment, training, techniques	13,221	13,221
Units	12	10,171
Rusich unit	5,119	5,119
Serb unit	5,040	5,040
Relationship with the Russian state	23,519	30,584
Wagner Group rebellion	7,065	7,065
Activities	543	89,244
Ukraine	1,012	37,461
Crimea annexation and War in Donbas	14,696	14,696
Full-scale invasion of Ukraine since 2022	21,753	21,753
Belarus	9,716	9,716
Syria	10,513	10,513
Africa	5,273	28,663
Sudan	5,412	5,412
Central African Republic	7,305	7,305
Libya	4,252	4,252
Mali	6,421	6,421
Venezuela	2,348	2,348
Possible activities	24	9,413
Moldova	962	962
Nagorno-Karabakh	5,042	5,042
Serbia	680	680
Other	2,705	2,705
Casualties	19,588	19,588
Sanctions	8,817	8,817
Plane crash	3,962	3,962
Far-right elements	6,759	6,759
Awards and honors	9,078	9,078
Post Yevgeny Prigozhin's death	2,848	3,799
Nationalization of Wagner Group	951	951
Notable members	719	719
See also	96	96
Citations	27	27
Further reading	4,515	4,515
External links	1,170	1,170
Total	286,694	286,694

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 December 2023

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Please replace File:Wagner armed rebellion vehicle marking Z.png with File:Wagner armed rebellion vehicle marking Z.svg Rainbowlack (talk) 22:37, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: no reason given for the proposed change. M.Bitton (talk) 21:42, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please note, User:M.Bitton: you only come across as lazy and uncharitable when you routinely deny requests without thinking yourself. As HappyWith must have spotted, the image format changed from png to svg. Converting images to vector format is an excellent reason to give for a proposed change. Wikipedia doesn't lose anything by editors holding off until they're reasonably sure the request actually lacks merit. Please consider not involving yourself if your involvement is limited to rubber-stamping a "no". Thanks CapnZapp (talk) 06:35, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@CapnZapp: if you were more thorough and less eager to be unnecessarily rude, you would have noticed that it's not a like for like replacement, and therefore, an explanation is expected before removing the image that has implicit consensus. M.Bitton (talk) 13:24, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Did you say so when you declined the edit request? No? Then perhaps my message to you remains valid? Cheers CapnZapp (talk) 16:08, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. HappyWith (talk) 01:23, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Africa Corps

This article lists "Africa Corps" as an alias for Wagner.

When I looked at the source and a bunch of other ones, it seems that it's being used to replace Wagner, not to rename it.

Slope Interceptor^Talk 13:53, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sources such as? Slatersteven (talk) 16:33, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wagner group ranks 121.6.199.197 (talk) 16:31, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sources? Slatersteven (talk) 16:33, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Should we start a new article, taking the title from what's currently a redirect to Rommel's Africa Korps?

So far, I've added a hat note over at Africa Korps. "Africa Corps" currently redirects there.

However, we usually rename our articles when companies change names. Should we move this article to the new name of Africa Corps? (If so, the hat note should instead be here, saying something like "For the WWII German expeditionary force, see Africa Korps").

PS. Please don't lazily ask for sources when it is trivial to find lots of them, just google "africa corps wagner". Here are just some random ones:

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CapnZapp (talk) 06:28, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In source 2, it says that the Africa Corps is under RuMOD control and is a new organization with a new structure. It might becuase wagner is a bunch of companies and not 1 single entity, but this organization seems to replace Wagner entirely, and isn't a rebrand. Slope Interceptor^Talk 15:26, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

Anton "Lotus" Yelizarov

Anton "Lotus" Yelizarov became field commander of the Wagner Group after the death of Wagner owner Yevgeny Prigozhin and field commander Dmitry “Wagner”Utkin. Speaking in a video on February 5th 2024 Yelizarov detailed the location of Wagner’s new headquarters at Kazachi Lageri Cossack Camps (Казачьи Лагери) near Rostov, co-located with the barracks of the Russian 150th Motor Rifle Division. Yelizarov also claimed in the video that Wagner’s new basis would also house the Russian National Guard (Rosgvardia) new Volunteer Corps, implicitly confirming Wagner’s subordination to Rosgvardia. https://twitter.com/NewFrontlines/status/1754627448925294738 Sneuper (talk) 13:06, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unsure this is an RS for a BLP. Slatersteven (talk) 13:23, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Add Asia to the list of continents where there have been operations, as Syria and parts of Russia are in Asia. IrisArgo (talk) 22:25, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done Jamedeus (talk) 22:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://adf-magazine.com/2024/01/with-new-name-same-russian-mercenaries-plague-africa/

[2] ttps://english.elpais.com/international/2023-12-23/russia-expands-into-the-sahel-with-its-new-brand-africa-corps.html#

[3] ttps://www.newsweek.com/russia-new-africa-corps-hamper-us-clout-libya-putin-sudan-wagner-1845516

[4] ttps://www.theafricareport.com/331580/investigation-how-putin-is-taking-control-of-wagner-in-africa/

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