Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stargate vs. Doctor Who Guinness controversy
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- Stargate vs. Doctor Who Guinness controversy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)
I'm as big a Doctor Who fan as the next man, but this whole "controversy" was nothing more than a tedious points-scoring exercise between science-fiction fans on message boards, and is desperately, desperately unnotable. Perhaps, perhaps, it could be a note somewhere on a Stargate or a Doctor Who page, but that's at the very most. I can't see how it merits its own page here. Angmering 11:34, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
- Delete There is indeed a note on the Stargate SG-1 article on this very controversy. That's probably sufficient for Wikipedia, and the notability of this controversy is questionable at best. -- GJD 13:02, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. It's not terribly encyclopedic as is, and the way it is written is POV pushing - the article seems to support one side of the controversy over the other. It's a minor point of debate between fans - and being an avid fan of both Doctor Who and Stargate SG-1 I've heard it from both sides. Anyway, as pointed out above, this blurb is mentioned elsewhere but is not notable on its own merits, and both of the "sources" are primary - they come from the broadcasters of each series, respectively. Arkyan • (talk) 16:05, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
- Weak delete or merge — The dispute was covered by BBC News and The Guardian, which could be used to support a notability claim; however, it's probably still not encyclopedic enough. The content could be incorporated into a re-structuring of Lengths of science fiction film and television series which I've recently proposed. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 16:55, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. It has sources and is adequately written. --Darth Borehd 01:00, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. Trivial non-controversy. The current mention in Stargate SG-1 and a minor update to Doctor Who are more than sufficient. —Cryptic 01:18, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. Notable enough info for a mention on one of the Stargate or Doctor Who pages (or Lengths of science fiction film and television series), but not for its own page. --Brian Olsen 03:35, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
- Merge to Lengths of science fiction film and television series. -Sean Curtin 03:59, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
- Merge per Josiah Rowe and Sean Curtin. I would note that it's not just a message-board thing; in fact, given the bbc coverage, it only fails WP:N on the independence criterion. Having reread this page and seen the guardian ref, it's only one reference away from passing WP:N. Percy Snoodle 09:52, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
- I find it "interesting" that this AfD coms scant days after the page was [prod]ded, and improved to, as it were, 'beat' the prod. It would appear, therefore that the page doesn't meet one of the "other" criteria on Wiki~: namely, it lacks a sufficently high-powered sponsor, and therefore will be shot unmourned by those who "matter". This is a documented instance of the Guinness Records getting something arguably wrong-ish, and I suggest now, as I did on the prod, that the article should at leastr emain until the next edition of Guinness, to allow an independent documented argument. -- Simon Cursitor 17:24, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
- delete doesn't have enough infoGman124 22:30, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- merge to Guinness World Records#Reliability_questions and Lengths of science fiction film and television series. --Helm.ers 20:05, 9 April 2007 (UTC)