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There is currently a discussion at WP:AN regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is User:20 upper. Thank you. — SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:55, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Androphobia (March 1)

Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Robert McClenon was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: There are at least two problems with this draft. First, it has been developed and submitted almost entirely by a blocked editor, User:20 upper. Second, it has been deleted after discussion three times. See

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Androphobia (2008). Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Androphobia (3rd nomination) (2015). Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Androphobia (4th nomination) (2017).

It should only be resubmitted by an established editor in good standing who has shown, with an explanation on the draft talk page, why this submission has overcome the issues identified in the previous three deletion discussions.

If this draft or its equivalent is resubmitted by a new account, check whether the account is quacking.

Robert McClenon (talk) 07:12, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello, 20 upper! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Robert McClenon (talk) 07:12, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

<personal attack screed deleted>

You just lost your talk page editing privileges for making personal attacks while blocked. You do not currently have an unblock request in place. You will have to file for one by emailing the Arbitration Committee at arbcom-enwikimedia.org with your username and appeal. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:29, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

WikiCup 2023 March newsletter

So ends the first round of the 2023 WikiCup. Everyone with a positive score moved on to Round 2, with 54 contestants qualifying. The top scorers in Round 1 were:

• Unlimitedlead with 1205 points, a WikiCup newcomer, led the field with two featured articles on historical figures and several featured article candidate reviews.
• Epicgenius was in second place with 789 points; a seasoned WikiCup competitor he specialises in buildings and locations in New York.
• FrB.TG was in third place with 625 points, garnered from a featured article on a filmmaker which qualified for an impressive number of bonus points.
• TheJoebro64, another WikiCup newcomer, came next with 600 points gained from two featured articles on video games.
• Iazyges was in fifth place with 532 points, from two featured articles on classical history.

The top sixteen contestants at the end of Round 1 had all scored over 300 points; these included LunaEatsTuna, Thebiguglyalien, Sammi Brie, Trainsandotherthings, Lee Vilenski, Juxlos, Unexpectedlydian, SounderBruce, Kosack, BennyOnTheLoose and PCN02WPS. It was a high-scoring start to the competition.

These contestants, like all the others, now have to start again from scratch. The first round finished on February 26. Remember that any content promoted after that date but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Some contestants made claims before the new submissions pages were set up, and they will need to resubmit them. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed.

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UTRS appeal #74376

is declined.  Confirmed block evasion as Dancing Dollar. User is now considered banned by community consensus as per WP:3X. No admin is free to unilaterally lift the block. --Yamla (talk) 16:54, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Well I'll be. Ya think you know someone. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:07, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

@20 upper: In reply to your email. Requesting unblock via UTRS before December 4 would be a waste of time. In that time, you should make constructive edits, at least five hundred of them, on another project such as SIMPLEWIKI. You are WP:CBANned for multiple WP:check user confirmed socks/block evasion per WP:3X, so any unblock request would need to be carried to WP:AN for consideration by the community. As this is a check user block, a check user must agree to unblock you. Best -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:52, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Androphobia

Hello, 20 upper. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Androphobia, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 01:02, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Androphobia

Hello, 20 upper. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Androphobia".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:37, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Email question

You asked via email if you count as a banned user. You do indeed; see WP:3X and WP:CBAN. I have updated your user page to reflect this. The soonest you could apply to be unbanned would be 2023-12-04 and your appeal would need to be made to the community. See WP:UNBAN for more details. --Yamla (talk) 16:19, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

UTRS appeal #81911

TPA restored for WP:AN per blocking admin. Yamla cleared from CU perspective. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:26, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

@Yamla: -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:26, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Acknowledged and watching. --Yamla (talk) 21:31, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra: Thanks, I'm only aware of it today. 20 upper (talk) 14:17, 13 December 2023 (UTC

@Yamla and Deepfriedokra: I think I'm now ready to have the community review my appeal; please carry it over to the Admin's noticeboard. Thanks, 20 upper (talk) 15:27, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Sorry for the wait. It is posted. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:16, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

@Phil Bridger: Regarding your initial query, I have changed my ways. In the past, I've said good things while acting inappropriately. However, I've since realized that socking is wrong, which is why I've chosen to acknowledge my actions and finally abide by the rules. Considering that I haven't socked, complied with the policies & guidelines, and edited Commons while away from Wikipedia, I believe that the block is no longer necessary. How old am I you ask, well, all I can say is that my brain has not fully developed, so yeah. 20 upper (talk) 21:46, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

(carried over) -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:14, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra: I think my appeal is in danger of being archived, please look out for 16:53. 20 upper (talk) 15:46, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Never mind, a user just voted. 20 upper (talk) 16:08, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Unbanned

Per the community consensus at AN, you have been unbanned under two conditions: you may only use one account, and this is a last-chance unblock; any further misconduct will result in an indefinite block. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 03:02, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Stop

Please stop. You were unblocked to make constructive edits on Wikipedia, not to play around on your user page. Almost all of your edits since having your ban lifted have been to your user space. --Yamla (talk) 14:26, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Okay, I just wanted to start by fixing my userpage in the final days of 2023, before I start creating articles and making useful contributions in the new year. I'll stop editing for today, then tomorrow I'll do some copyedting on animal articles. I'm just waiting to start afresh in the new year, sorry for any inconveniences. 20 upper (talk) 14:55, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Sei whale

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Your GA nomination of Sei whale

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Your GA nomination of Megaherbivore

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I've made you a couple of trees, one of them surely incomplete. Would be grateful if you could mark each item on the GA1 page as done or otherwise actioned so I can see where you feel you've got to in the review. Many thanks! Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:59, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Megaherbivore

The article Megaherbivore you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Megaherbivore for comments about the article, and Talk:Megaherbivore/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has never appeared on the Main Page as a "Did you know" item, and has not appeared within the last year either as "Today's featured article", or as a bold link under "In the news" or in the "On this day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear at DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On this day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Chiswick Chap -- Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:43, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Sei whale

The article Sei whale you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Sei whale for comments about the article, and Talk:Sei whale/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has never appeared on the Main Page as a "Did you know" item, and has not appeared within the last year either as "Today's featured article", or as a bold link under "In the news" or in the "On this day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear at DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On this day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Grungaloo -- Grungaloo (talk) 00:01, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Cetacean FA

After tiger I plan on working another cetacean article, interested? Also, the old FA right whale is on my watchlist to work on and clean up. LittleJerry (talk) 23:11, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

@LittleJerry: Yes, that really interests me. Which article springs to mind? I'm considering narwhals. By the way, fantastic work on the polar bear, giraffe, and elephant FAs. 20 upper (talk) 08:00, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, I was planning on doing beluga whale. LittleJerry (talk) 14:25, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

So, I suppose I'll work with Narwhal for the time being, and after the Tiger FAC, we may collaborate with Beluga whale. 20 upper (talk) 14:40, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

I brought that article to GA but I didn't write most of it. I mostly rearranged some information, cleaned it up and added some text here and there. You should probably comb through the sources. LittleJerry (talk) 22:06, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Indeed, LittleJerry. After a full day of work on narwhal, what are your current thoughts? I think there should be a section on captive whales and that the cultural depictions may use some improvement. I may also need to expand the new subsection that I introduced, Evolution. How is the tiger article coming along? 20 upper (talk) 19:34, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Looks good, though I personally think the beluga is more interesting. I don't expect tiger to be ready for PR or FAC until March. I'm taking it one step at a time. LittleJerry (talk) 21:03, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

LittleJerry, because you mentioned that the article looks good, I'm going to presume that it's ready for FAC, and I'll be nominating it for tomorrow. I know it may be way too soon, but I want to experience what an FAC feels like. FunkMonk might be interested in this. 20 upper (talk) 20:34, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant "good so far". I'm not the person to judge whether its ready. I don't do much content reviewing myself. All I'll say is that it is important to make sure all the sources support the text and paraphrasing is appropriate, see here. I would recommend getting a peer review first. LittleJerry (talk) 23:00, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I would certainly take it through peer review first as a first time FAC nomination, to catch anything. FAC isn't a walk in the park. FunkMonk (talk) 06:42, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Even though this will be my first nomination, I am familiar with the FAC procedure. You make FAC seem difficult when it's really not that onerous; I would have been nominating every other week if it weren't for the incredibly delayed process. I'm more than willing to fail and I have no fear of the FAC procedure. You know, character is forged by failure rather than success. I apologise for bothering you, FunkMonk. I was simply curious about your thoughts on this. I'll try not to bother you again. I've started a peer review and will be waiting for feedback for a maximum of seven days. Again, I apologise for the disturbance. 20 upper (talk) 13:17, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Feel free to bother me, I've nominated 60+ FACs, and while one may be familiar with the subjects, there's a whole lot of formalities and technicalities beside the content itself that need to be adhered to, and it is almost impossible for anyone to get it all right at first try. Very few, if any, take articles directly to FAC without going through GAN or PR first. So this is not to belittle your abilities, it is kind advice from experience. FunkMonk (talk) 14:19, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

You may also what to purchase this book. LittleJerry (talk) 05:22, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

For the next nine days, I won't be able to buy the book because I'm currently on safari in the African savannah and will be leaving camp soon. 20 upper (talk) 05:56, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Okay, but is online on google books. Have a good trip! LittleJerry (talk) 18:15, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Dark mode

Hi, I can't find the function. The Jack (talk) 17:10, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: What phone do you use? Cause dark mode is available on my Samsung Galaxy. 20 upper (talk) 17:25, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Indian rhinoceros

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Your GA nomination of Indian rhinoceros

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Your GA nomination of Brown bear

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Reverting my edits

I understand the need to revert over links. For example, we're not supposed to wiklink dates or city names in citations. However, hyperlinking to the journals and authors in citations seems obviously useful and the kind of thing Wikipedia and the web in general is so useful for compared to paper. Am I wrong in this and somehow violating a Wikpedia policy? As for over-emphasizing one author (Stirling), I was planning to continue with other edits linking to the other authors whom I could find existing articles for, but he was the most prominent, so I started with him. Given the rapid pace of edits for such a prominent article, I don't think it's practical to advise editors to wait until they have a mega-edit of linking to every possible author ready before publishing because that almost guarantees an edit conflict with someone else who's already put in an edit in the meantime. Instead, don't you think it makes more sense to go incrementally? Carney333 (talk) 21:15, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

@Carney333: Author name was already linked. 20 upper (talk) 04:11, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Indian rhinoceros

On 29 February 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Indian rhinoceros, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that an Indian rhinoceros, sent as a gift to Pope Leo X in 1515, was immortalised as Dürer's Rhinoceros after dying in a shipwreck? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Indian rhinoceros. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Indian rhinoceros), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:02, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Attention needed at username change request

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Notice of noticeboard discussion

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. – DreamRimmer (talk) 05:54, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Message received. 20 upper (talk) 13:35, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

@DreamRimmer: If no one responds, please action the request. Plus, I already informed an involved administrator (Deepfriedokra) and he seems OK with it. I'm responding here because I do not wish to edit the Admin's noticeboard, and keep my edit count to that page at zero. I prefer building content rather than editing in a drama-filled area. 20 upper (talk) 19:31, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

FAC

Yo. Don't get discouraged. It took me a few times to get my first FAC passed. LittleJerry (talk) 19:58, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks man. It's hard. I'll give it another go later this year if the nom doesn't end up promoted. I now need to take a nighttime stroll to decompress. Oh! and I still have the Brown Bear GA to complete tomorrow. 20 upper (talk) 20:28, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Hey your first FA nom went better than mine, which tanked alot more decisively. Look, it's doable. You get used to it and gets easier. But yeah decompress, have a break and see how you feel. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:54, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

Casliber, you are a very successful editor with more than a hundred FAs! A large portion of your FAs are in my area of expertise, so can you shed some light on how you were able to achieve all this? 20 upper (talk) 14:31, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

In general, the narrower the topic/subject, the easier it is. So for narwhal, I too was worried about cultural material, which just isn't an issue in many organisms I've done. Some also "come together" alot easier than others and it's hard to put a finger on it. My writing also got better over time - have a look at User:Tony1/How to improve your writing as this really helped. Gotta run now, but will muse on things today. e.g. my thinking would be that Indian rhinoceros might be more achievable than brown bear...maybe at first glance??? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:18, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

@Casliber: Yes the cultural material is my weakest point, other than that I think the article is high quality. I'm not planning on bringing Indian rhinoceros or Brown bear to FA until much later; I'm solely focused on featuring narwhal by April. 20 upper (talk) 05:04, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

I'll try to help. First thing is to double check comprehensiveness, then copyedit. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:25, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

• As I mentioned before, I strongly recommend taking this to WP:peer review before FAC. As I suspected, many of the issues that were brought up during the last FAC were related to various formalities that one mainly pics up after some nominations. FunkMonk (talk) 23:23, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
  • @FunkMonk: I failed FAC miserably, and I now have further problems in real life and have to check on my sister who just burnt herself, like 30 minutes ago from the time of this message, it is really stressful and they are now asking for my help. I am so stressed right now that I can't think about FAC. I'll, however, try to maintain my editing streak through this hardship. 20 upper (talk) 14:47, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Best wishes, FAC certainly isn't that important. FunkMonk (talk) 15:14, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

@FunkMonk: Everything is fine; it was only a first-degree burn. I must say, where you were during the review when I required your assistance. I will try to fix the article's taxonomy and culture section over the weekend and post it at the WP:Guild of copy-editors. I really want to push chimpanzee to FA after I'm done with narwhal, so if you want to work with me on that, you can focus on evolution, taxonomy, and culture while I tackle the rest of the article. I will ping additional editors to participate as well. June is the suggested date. This project is a necessity as chimpanzees are our closest living relatives last time I checked. 20 upper (talk) 18:50, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Good to hear. Well, I was here on the talk page, I had already given my two cents; I feared it was going to have problems if you didn't first get it through GAN or PR yourself. I'm still willing to look it over at a PR. FunkMonk (talk) 21:57, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

@FunkMonk: It already went to PR; you can provide a review on the talk page. I'll be re-nominating it in the near future. 20 upper (talk) 10:10, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

There is no indication on the article's talk page that there was a PR, and if there was, I should have been notified so I could comment then. A new FAC is premature until all issues raised at the last FAC have been addressed. FunkMonk (talk) 15:33, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Snowy albatross

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GANReviewTool

Hello friend. My error logs indicate that the GANReviewTool script you were using failed to finish promotion, twice. Is it possible you are clicking away from the page before the script says "done" or "error"? If you're clicking away early, it could cause this kind of error. Or another possible cause is a bad internet connection. Could that possibly apply? I'm trying to get to the bottom of this bug since it happens a couple times a month to various people. Thanks a lot. Looking forward to your feedback. –Novem Linguae (talk) 04:26, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

@Novem Linguae: For some reason, my browser crashed and loaded a message stating Error, something unexpected happened upon loading the preview. Please close and try again. I don't think my wifi is the problem. Wolverine XI ^{(den • 🐾)} 13:46, 4 March 2024 (UTC)